Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Let’s Make A Deal (07-03-07)

As we went to our motion hearing on the 3rd a new environment was discovered. Keller is leaving for Nevada on August 1st. The U.S. Attorney’s office is in turmoil. Ryan is gone, Schools is gone. There is no boss our case is losing Keller and Dimke has been missing in action. This all seemed to motivate Keller to deal. A new settlement conference was scheduled. Will we finally get to settle? I doubt it but I’m all ears. Now my suspicions by all this motivation is a deal likely to be 10 years or less for me and 7 or less for Scott. So much for the vicious agenda of our evil commentators here. I want to settle and always have but I have great doubt that even with all this pressure honor will find its way into these pirates.

The important thing to discuss with you is not the action of the bully but rather the temptation that now arises. For the first time I have a realistic suffering that is manageable and acceptable. I know all of you faithers know this place. It is where the diligent man of faith finds his carnal nature screaming “Me, Me, what about me?” This take care of me is the exact point where we lost Farrel and Dewey. Now what will Scott, Bill and I do? What would you do? If I were to advice you I could quote a thousand scriptures that all condemn the screaming me to the cross of obedience. This is exactly how I preach to myself. Again I suspect that to follow Christ will appear risky. It will violate all worldly wisdom. Some of what was dispensed from Mr. Alsup. “You can’t imagine how foolish it is to not have attorneys. When the government goes to trial they only lose 1 out of 50.” Would you swallow hard here or would your knees buckle? Faith of Christ is very unique and powerful. It does not shrink back under threat. Actually that is the perfect environment for it to make its boast. Think about Christ as a man with His life in the balance as a man choosing to go to the cross. I’m not making a boast in myself here because if I was not possessed with the powerful faith of Christ the screaming “Me, Me” would capture me. My encouragement to you and myself is to trust in this faith for its hope that all the promises in God are yes and amen is a sure and confident risk to take. This is the strength of Dorean and your trustees in that we will rely upon God and choose His way even when it appears suicidal. This is how Christ is loving you by giving us the strength beyond all our fears to finish the race to deliver your victory. We’ll He who has vested much not get a return? God is very shrewd. I delight in His care for you because I can use it as evidence of His care for me when I’m afraid. You are in good hands as am I. So let’s make a deal; I will follow Christ and keep you in my prayers and you keep us in prayers to remain faithful. Deal!

37 comments:

habakkuk said...

Psalm 7:6-17

6 Arise, O Lord, in anger!
Stand up against the fury of my enemies!
Wake up, my God, and bring justice!
7 Gather the nations before you.
Rule over them from on high.
8 The Lord judges the nations.
Declare me righteous, O Lord,
for I am innocent, O Most High!
9 End the evil of those who are wicked,
and defend the righteous.
For you look deep within the mind and heart,
O righteous God.

10 God is my shield,
saving those whose hearts are true and right.
11 God is an honest judge.
He is angry with the wicked every day.

12 If a person does not repent,
God[a] will sharpen his sword;
he will bend and string his bow.
13 He will prepare his deadly weapons
and shoot his flaming arrows.

14 The wicked conceive evil;
they are pregnant with trouble
and give birth to lies.
15 They dig a deep pit to trap others,
then fall into it themselves.
16 The trouble they make for others backfires on them.
The violence they plan falls on their own heads.

17 I will thank the Lord because he is just;
I will sing praise to the name of the Lord Most High.

Richard said...

Deal!
Rich J Colorado Sprngs

mogel said...

The prosecution team is "fleeing away". If God is with us, who is against us?

Psalm 64:1-10

1. "Hear my voice, O God, in my prayer: preserve my life from fear of the enemy.

2. Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity:

3. Who whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot their arrows, even bitter words:

4. That they may shoot in secret at he perfect; suddently do they shoot at him, and fear not.

5. They encourage themselves in an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, WHO SHALL SEE THEM?

6. They search out iniquities; they accomplish a diligent search: both the inward thought of every one of them, and the heart is deep.

7. But GOD SHALL SHOOT AT THEM WITH AN ARROW; SUDDENLY SHALL THEY BE WOUNDED.

8. So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves: all THAT SEE THEM SHALL FLEE AWAY.

9. And all men shall fear, and shall declare the work of God; for they shall wisely consider of his doing.

10. The righteous shall be glad in the Lord, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

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~~The Swami~~~ said...

Kurt, I have learned a lot from you and how this struggle has made you stronger. "To be built up.......you have to be torn down". However, if the FEDS don't drop all charges and give you a big fat check at the settlement for wasting two plus years of your life............I would tell them to kiss your behind. You have them by the throat now. Are they serious? Do they think you will give up now? No way Kurt. Finish the fight so their head bounces off the ground and the dirt soaks up their fear.

GYHOOYA said...

Hey Swami well said & I do mean well said!

let those who want to act as these have pay for their lacking and efforts outrages unfair play in this hole thing.

Pay being the key word in that sentence, if you did'nt aready get me on that.

Well said, well said my good man.

l8r

sinner_onlysavedbygrace said...

It's a deal Kurt & Scott! May God continue filling you with His joy & peace in the midst of battle and see you through to His victory!!

sbg

habakkuk said...

Just so i'm clear on this whole thing...if they drop all charges what happens as far as a settlement?? Whats the most possible next action K&S take at that time (besides going home)? Any ideas?

peanut gallery said...

WOW. K&S you have more intestinal fortitude in your little finger than these naysayers and convictors could ever hope to have in their entire bodies.
I just wonder how quickly ppl like neo,nd, judge royboy,and the others would have been wetting their pants, curled up in the corner in the fetal position and crying like a little girl, had they been in your position. What the nimwhits can't and will never understand is, right or wrong, you have never wavered from what you believe to be just and right. The concept of having true convictions is lost on these buffoons.
I truely believe that most of these nay sayers are actually jealous that they have done nothing for a cause they believe in and can't stand to see someone else actually do it.

God bless you both

~~The Swami~~~ said...

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laughing lots said...

Hey Heard through the grapevine from someone that the federal criminal and weak minded follower Lecompte is getting divorced...HaHaHa!!!! thats good for you jerk off. That girl finally wised up and realized that he is a scam artist at heart and will always be one,and a terrible husband as well..HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!
Thats good for you jerk off!

habakkuk said...

Laughing Lots said....Hey Heard through the grapevine from someone that the federal criminal and weak minded follower Lecompte is getting divorced...HaHaHa!!!! thats good for you jerk off. That girl finally wised up and realized that he is a scam artist at heart and will always be one,and a terrible husband as well..HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!
Thats good for you jerk off!

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What kind of person laughs and makes fun of something like this?? You fool. Divorce is not something to laugh at. G-d is not happy when a couple divorces. I suspect neither is their child (if i remember correctly Farrell and his wife had a baby a year or 2 ago). I'm assuming it has everything to do with Farrells recent circumstances (whether you think the cause is right or wrong). I'm willing to bet on the fact that his wife is not having a celebration as you are right now.

laughing lots said...

habakkuk you are just as dumb as he is, you brainless meathead!
he deserves all of his misery ten fold. His wife i am sure isnt having a good time but at least she can move on and have a meaningfull life with some one who makes an HONEST living and isnt trying to figure out his next scam. God this and God that.When you are no good and treat people bad, lie and do bad things it always comes back to hurt you no matter what and that is what GOD as you like to call him, does to people, you weak minded freak, wake up.

habakkuk said...

"His wife i am sure isnt having a good time but at least she can move on and have a meaningfull life with some one who makes an HONEST living and isnt trying to figure out his next scam."

YEAH, MAYBE....WHAT ABOUT THEIR CHILD?? DO YOU HAVE A COMMENTARY ABOUT THE CHILD?

"God this and God that.When you are no good and treat people bad, lie and do bad things it always comes back to hurt you no matter what and that is what GOD as you like to call him, does to people"

HOLD IT...I DISAGREE WITH YOUR "NO MATTER WHAT" STATEMENT....YOU EVER HEAR OF A LITTLE GUY IN THE BIBLE NAMED ZACCHAEUS?? HE REPENTED AFTER RIPPING PEOPLE OFF AND JESUS CAME TO HIS HOUSE TO EAT WITH HIM. AS A MATTER OF FACT JESUS SAID HE WAS COMING TO HIS HOUSE BEFORE HE EVEN REPENTED BECAUSE MAN (THATS YOU AND ME)LOOKS ON THE OUTSIDE BUT G-D SEES THE HEART. THE KEY THING THERE IS "HE REPENTED".

(WOOOPS...I USED THE GOD REFERENCE AGAIN..SORRY...CANT HELP MYSELF)I GUESS IF QUOTING THE BIBLE MAKES YOU A FREAK I GUESS YOU BETTER COUNT ME IN WITH THE REST OF THE FREAKS.

BY THE WAY, I DONT AUTOMATICALLY THINK FARRELL IS A BAD GUY BECAUSE YOU SAY SO.....I DONT KNOW THE GUY....MY GUESS IS NEITHER DO YOU.

G-FORCE said...

--"Your enemies will be defeated. y will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven." Deut.28:7----"The Lord foils the plans of the nations; he thwarts the purposes of the peoples." Ps33:10---"A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found."Ps.37:10---"for the power of the wicked will be broken, but the Lord upholds the righteous."Ps.37:17---"...but the Lord will NOT leave them(the righteous) in their(the wicked) power, or let them be condemned when brought to trial"Ps37:33----"Wait for the Lord and keep his way. He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, you will see it!"Ps.37:34----I personally do not see any reason to have to "make a deal" with the wicked. I believe the "deal" has already been made!!

GYHOOYA said...

Hey Laughs, Why don't you wrigt it all down in a nice letter and send it to him that way you can let go and GET OVER IT. Talk about your holding on to things a bit tight.
So the guy was'nt the nices guy and sure he was a bit on the pompass side when it came to customer service but again intill you walk in someones shoes and know what they are dealing with you should just let it go. You had opptions and did'nt need to deal with him. I'm sorry to hear about that for the kids sake also. But then again everything happens for a reason so maybe the kids getting out of a house that is not good fopr them and will better for it just because there not living together should'nt mean Farrel will not be part of the kids life. I have to say I don't wish any grief on the family but if farrel deals with his everyday life as hi has in this matter then he should take a good look at that and maybe make some changes in the way he's doing thing in his life.

Just my 2-cents but with the way the money in this countries is looking it most likly isn't worth that. So take it or leave it no matter.

It's about time for the feds to either make their case and get it done or give up this BS it's becoming to be the stupidest case they have and the egg on their face is piling up. I can't beleave the amount of personal rights that have been railroaded in this case from any other in resent it would be even more stupid to have anyone not be able to see the true intent behind all of the Gov't misdealing and side show to get the number down and the hopefull intent to get people to lose interest not only in the law around this hole thing but with Kurt & Scott so as to put out that flame that was spreeding acrosss the web and country.


I would like anyone to tell me their thoughts about this question

If the Gov't had not steped in and derailed this hole thing what do you think would have happened if let be.

Also how do you seethe Gov't not coming to the banks rescue in this hole thing a?

As I see it there was no other chose for the but the path they took right or wrong to stop something that could of screwed things in the banking world and how paper works in this country how could they have not stepped in? It dos'nt take a whole lot of brain to see the direction that this has been forced and why by the Gov't or are we all to beleive that the GOv't is never out to do sneeky things to benifit their own cause or direct how things get to play out?

These are only two guy's and a handful of others and the center of dorean then you have all of the mucky mucks out here that grew by the 100's and into the 1000's when this hit the NET but still not much that the Gov't whould stop their normal tactics like locking people up in till they become let say less of a force in the power play of the workings of this if you thiink they are above the things that are so in your face they have done here to stop these guys that are stepping all over rtheir right then why don't you go ask those that have been locked up a GIMO and get knoww rights at all they just vanish in night or day anbd if the Gov't wants they mey not be seeen or even tried with rights to a lawyer for years so what about that.

Just remember all it takes for you to be next in line for that kind of thing is for the Gov't to call you something almost anything realy these day. and off you go thats a lot of power and looks who hands it's been wheeled by for the past 8 years that dumb ass up there running this cuontry into the ground and to think when he took office he had that nice group everyone like to call his "goon squid or something like that that would run around and give people greif if they said anythoing bad about him kind of sounds like that nice freedom pof free to say what you want is going the way of so many others .

I have to say that everone better get off their asses even if they don't have the time and put some check on our Gov't and get this country back in some kinda line before they can't without some great bloodshed to get it done.

If everyone is honest and takes a good look at all of this to do with Doean it's is easy to see that these guy's found the loop hole and used it well and good and guess what the bank's ran to the FEds for their help because on paper they were powerless. What's good for the goose is good for the rest and the banks had to get help from the Gov't it was the only way to get out of something that they could not the Gov't could step in and over power these guys just as they have done by their use and miuse of power to side step the law and then latter just call it a misstake don't be so numb about what the Gov't is willing to do to make sure it's interest is covered on something and when your take what this could have done let to run its couse well any fool could see they wer'nt going to let that happen for very long don't you think so ?

I sure there are plenty out there taht are bitter and have loses to complain about but think about this it is not so far off base to have the feds say the screwed up they do it all the time and then there s a law suit like inn this case thatr the person or person's damaged go for their money for the time they lost and all the damage that was caused by the Gov't actions and then when its all done the Gov't pay's (which is just use paying so why do they care realy it's not coming from any pockets on the Hill and there no chance of this getting started again at least not this way if you al read your fine print you would see well these guy have been locked up the banks ahve nmmad e major change to the writen temand the mortgage industry is still going throughj big changes but either way that LOOPHOLE won't be there any more after this is done what ever the out come but these guy arn't going away for 7 or 10 years your see all the time there going to serve right now at best if you think different your someone with their head buried deep in the sand or fresh out of law school filled will all sorts of hope and mis info about how the real system works in the courtroom in this country thats for sure.

After you about 20 years of law you have a hole new look about how things work and how all that time you spent in school was'nt so you could learn about law it was so you could be shown how to conduct your self the law cxhanges all the time so why would one need to spend so much time in school to try to rememevber something that will more than likly be useless by the time they ever put it to use (as goes for the law portion that is) those guy with the big robes up in the big courtroom who realy lay down the law those are your lawmaker anmd the the real deal but sad to say that is slowly becoming lesss of a force of unbiest thought everyday now but there is still some good mind up in the Supr. court some real old guys still hanging on to but hopefully that will correct itself soon and we can't all live for ever.

Enough about all that I think you must see my point here about this whole thing there is just to much that would show you that the Gov't stepped in to fix this did so in their normal way and found that some of that was'nt going to be as effective as it has been in the past aganest these guy's but still have nmad e a good dent and stoped whay was building into a big mess for them had they not.

The facts be true these guy did nothing so outrages againset the law they just found something that the banks mist it happens that why new law and chages happen al the time look whats going to happen with the credit scoring in late summer the fair issaic and the rest a putting a stop to adding anyone to your acct because poeple have used it to fix their credit and paid someone with a real good score for the right to beadded to their accts and brought their score up samethin that happens when you were an kid and your perents put you on there gas card or such it made you credit look good beleive me the scoreing system has been around along time and a lot longer then when you got tpo find out always did wounder how thta group of snakes keep that under rapes for so long it was just one of the things they don't want you tou know about that has to do with yoour mortgage and banking the otherare ever changing as needed and always to the good of the banks not you in fact the nmortgage industry is working side by side with the Credit reporting and scoring compnies to make sure theri way of checking your worth has not been screwed up to bad by some of the things that at happening to day not what would you think that the bannkers and the scoring conpany would let you in on what they do and would make sure your best interest was looked after?

I don't thiink so just wake up people and quit being so dumb when it comes to the way things in the big world work and what your dear Gov't is willing to do that is not right to make things happen their way .

I know everyone has their O.P. on 911 but as for me it easy to see that the Gov't was willing to set that hole thing up and the losses were verey easy for then to except but they will never tell you that the fact is it was a lot less then past wars aor thing like wise that were use by them to get an end to a means just open your eyes and take a good look around and you'll see waht I'm saying is real and that if it smells like a rat and act like one that it's more than likly a rat and thats what we have here the Gov't being them selfs in all their Ratfullness it's just to many things and when the dust clears I'll tell you without any doubt that if you think that these guy will go away for a long time youy very very mislead and in your thinking even if a the remote chance that would to happen after the preess got done with all of this crap that has happened it would be short lived and their release woiul;d come form presure do to the wrongs that would be expoisde by not only myself but other that have power enough to make even the Gov't sit up and ttake a good look at what their saying and los will be reading

The last true form of news that has little Gov't influence the New's Paper as it always has been and will be for a little bit more people just beleieve what they read over any other form of new's and that you can take all the way to the bank. thats for sure and I wuld hope by know that all who come here other then the fed's plants coulfd see that by now clear as a day you just don't have these thing take place by two guys that people like old Neo or JUstan ass like to say are acts from Kurt that have screwed up thing's . Why don't you go and get the real deal about how things work when your in jail then you come back and tell me that everything they have done is stright forward and that the acts are out of the lacking of tools not the excess of then and they are all for very good reason. then don't even get me going on the rest of this I said it before and I'll say it again that this hole deal was a railroad job y the Gov't and you would have to be a fool not to see that but then again look who I'm talking to if you can't under satnd that that the Gov't would do anthibng that would go againstit's interest thats for sure.
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GYHOOYA said...

after all that typing i have to say it realy is Laughable about how anyone could not see the Gov't underhanded way in this whole thing and how they had to be called in to stop this befor it got to big by what ever ways they had to use.

If you don't see that your either blind or stupid or both and all te rest is nothing but distractiona nd filling trust me in the end you'll all be acting alot diffferent thas for sure and you may just have a new look on how he money in this contry works and is palyed with it's getting to be suck the joke around this and the Gov't know it .

Hey Kurt you want to throw another burr under the Gov't saddle when you get to the offer try the the warrent they used was more than likely one that was pertained under a blanket terror act bill that was put into place arout that time and the fact is there were so many issuied this way there was a great big dealaround how the FBI used these terror act place by bush and over steped there power why it a came to the issiuence of them unlawfully and it was right around the same dtes that the feds were screwing with you 2005 or such this all happened worth checking into or bring up just to see the look onn their face and then you'll know whats what they have done so manty unlawfull act in this maybe they won't even flinch t it who knows but still worth it I say .

laughing lots said...

habakkuk you have got to be one of the dumbest human beings on the planet! Your wife probably left you. That is, even if some poor woman was dumb enough to even be with a meat head such as yourself.Do you think Farrel is sorry for what he has done or how he has treated people? well he isnt. He is so arrogant,rude and down right an ugly person and AGAIN when you lie,cheat and steal in more ways than one it will catch up to you no matter who you are.
It is a shame that his child has to have a con man,coke head for a father and i feel for the kid, but unfortunately thats the ones that get hurt when relationships are destroyed and again i hope the wife moves on and is happy and doesnt have to worry about her and her kid having a husband that may be locked up and always worrying when the FBI comes busting through the door. Is that a way to live?? Dumbass, get a hold on reality get your head out of your boyfriends asses and wake up, your so weak minded. I got some koolaide habakkuk want to drink some? Your like some kind of jim jones freak...A follower..weirdo!

GYHOOYA said...

I have a question for you Kurt when you get a chance and atthe rixk of sounding dumb exactly why the name Dorean?

I don't know why I did'nt asked this a long time ago it's been in the back of my mine from the beginning of this but just never took the time to look it up if there is some hidden meaning about it as it seems a odd name for this aggenda . Again I ask this without taking the noemal steps to i do to research things before I waste anyones time but what the hell it's seems easy enough of a question and should'nt take to much effort so there you have it just when evver you get a chance to add it in or anyone else for that matter if they are sure about their answer can help with this also.
thanks

GYHOOYA said...

Hey Habb I want to say this first so as not to have you get the wrong idea about what I'm gone to say here as I think your an good guy and have more then a fair understanding of the whole thing here, BUT as you new that was come right ?

I don't side think the way LaL and his shit for brains word he has choosen to use when he is posting to you is very needed at all if he would like to make the comment's and debt his side I'm sure there is no need for all the crap words he throw's in his postings to get his point accross and as with your's it just shows you to be the better man for not have stooped down to his level and use them to.

That said as it goes for Ferral I have to say that LaL has a point about you reap what you sow and Ferral was mostly a jerk to people when they tried to ask question to cover their ass in this whole process as a matter of fact I had to side step him in at one point because of his hot headedness and quick to lash out kinda personia and beeing he qnew he was the lager of any of the other Marketors out there he kinda pushed his weight around so again I don't need to rub salt in the sore spot of his troubles at home if there is any at all this is just a passing though from LaL so i will keep it in that perpective where it's true or not he mor than not has made some bad choses I think all the way around and even when it come right down to it I think its pretty low to jump ship on somethinng like this when he was so hip on the whole right sidedness of it from the start ands sold it to others but when the wter got tough he bailed . Oh well so be it people and there true colors shine through and he a s far as I am concerned has bail not only on him self and all that goes with it but on his so called freinds who have more on the line then he in this and are still working to get it right sided and who have ben in lock up for some time . IF I'm correct I diont think old Farral saw even a day of jail did he if he did it was'nt even close. I guess my point with this is I don't think the guy is a very nice person and I share with you something that goes along these lines when it comes to him . When I was at the 2nd convention Iwas more interrested in these people Farrel Kurt Scott and the rest of the majors and how they were acting being they had been raid just before this and i have to tell you out of everyone in that room I could help but see how shifty Farrel looked sitting there on the sidelines in fact he and how he acted was the soul facter for me waiting some more time to see what was goimng to happen. He did'nt go into this like Kurt & the rest with the good at heart idea of getting some right out of the banks long run of wrong he was kinda shady acting all the way throught it as his heart and were that might have been I can't realy say only he knows that for sure but I will say that he had know problem jumping ship and saving his ass when this strted looking bad . I also think that little meeting with the feds right around that same time was a hell of a lot more then he said it was and I would bet his deal was made then not later when the show of it was in court that wa just fan fair then he in my book is a bit of a snake and if by his actions and the facts around his wife not wanting to stay ture out to be true then it's jusrt one more thing that would say the same about him would'nt you aggree .

Maybe you would think the same but if I were to give any addvise to Kurt when it comes to Ferral and dealing with him it would be watch your back cuz I think the guy would sell anyone down the river to save his own ass and would'nt look back one second so if the old saine is true "keep your feinds close and your enemys even closer then so be iit it but I hope that Kurt take a good look at this gut and what he has done before he shares one thing mpore with him cuz I thgought is he would be passing that on to the feds as partof that little deal he made in TX when he whent to see them and said nothing was realy talked about . Was't that the same time he had the little problem with the meds (Perdisone ) and over doing it that stuff will do funny things to yoyu I know I have to take it my self and he poped then like he said and there were none left to taper of of them as is needed he could of been in a worse frame of mind then one mighjt believe when he was talking to the feds sop whoooo kknows what realy happened at that meeting that he keep on the QT in till it was all over .

He's shifty I can tell you just why in all repects but after watching him that day it was ssomething in my gut that said he was no good and was hidding someithng or new something the rest of them did'nt even Doug from the trust comp. who I talked with for a bit on my way out .

I will say this to Farrel Thanks for being such an ass as you were when dealing with me because if you had'nt been i would be out 3500-400K and waiting like many here for soem return on it yepp you shify ways of actin at the convention just had me sit back for second longer and that was all that was needed to keep me out after that the shit hit the fan and there was know getting in I know that also because I was still going to do it had even contacted Kurt who inturn told ferrel to lighten up a bit or something like that because he then was a bit more dealable and set up the needed with the guy Shepp to finish me up .. Only the feds and dear Alsup put the order through for temp no work to be done (hoping anyone would ofcourse break it and then he would have a areal reason to lock trhese guys up)

They wer'nt that stupid by a long shot as some seem to forget when they spout off here about how there was 'no help from the office" it was'nt do to them not wanting to help people it was all do to the temp them that went perm latter order to stop all work related tto this in any form so their hands were tieds I have to say that I am very impresssed with the way that these guy's have handled this in thingto do with like that and many other's that most amy not see as to why or what the reason behind they so they jump on the must be some B>S legel and not in resonce to what the courts and the fedss were paling in their hand at the time we see very little hgere as to the whole story thathas plaied out so far but thanks to Kurt and his effort' and this blog at least he has keep people some what informed when he really did'nt need to do so. well may be there is a little self pervailance in this blog and keeping the wave roolling so the feds can't just bury him and all but still if looked at I think this guy has gone way way over the effort to post facts and info here to keep what would have been most lost in it all and long gone by now as the gov't has been working and ghoping for an their play of this but did'nt work out I guess these is something good you can say for have some TIME to think about things after all (as in the time Kurt had to think this thing well through before evenstarting it when the lockeed him up last time You would have to go through being locked for something you don't think you did wrong and have that kind of mind and time to go through everything all the ins and ourt and what I have seen of Kurt he's not one to just sit around with his finger up his 8ass doing nothing well haveing to serve that time. Not by his actions that I have seenanyway.

Just something more for you to think about fromme your well come have a nice day!


Oh one more thing as for you LOlyour way of lookingand deling with things is way out there so why don't you do everone a nice favor and keep that trap of your shut in till you have facts on something cuz you sound like a rewal ass so far with what you have posted. sometimes it's good to take your win's of such namd to heart but to do so with quit in mind and keeping them to your self so nener nener nenerr how about that si I have to deal with that right now of in a few as they said

justice7777777 said...

laughing lots said...
Do you think Farrel is sorry for what he has done or how he has treated people? well he isnt. He is so arrogant,rude and down right an ugly person and AGAIN when you lie,cheat and steal in more ways than one it will catch up to you no matter who you are.
It is a shame that his child has to have a con man,coke head for a father and i feel for the kid, but unfortunately thats the ones that get hurt when relationships are destroyed and again i hope the wife moves on and is happy and doesnt have to worry about her and her kid having a husband that may be locked up and always worrying when the FBI comes busting through the door. Is that a way to live??

That's some pretty bold statements and accusations you make. Would you care to give an example from your first hand knowledge of how lecompte is guilty of your claims and please be specific with examples of lying, cheating, stealing, other scam participation, drug use, no remorse, etc.

I am no fan of dorean, et al. as everyone knows, but you are scum to publish this without support for your claims if he is actually going through the divorce considering your source was the "grapevine". If you don't have support for your claims, you are no better than what you claim flea to be. And my guess is that if you are not his wife (which I seriously doubt), you are making claims that make you look like the actual idiot instead of the others you also claim are idiots and morons posting responses to your attacks on flea and others.

You don't think you are being ugly, rude, etc, with your attack, or have you earned some exemption that allows you to attack others and make libelious statements without any recourse to you? You may want to look in the mirror hypocrite.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

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habakkuk said...

gyhooya,

I only used the caps to distinguish between his post and mine...but you're right...caps are annoying to read.

All i'm saying about Farrel is that i don't really know the guy (besides hearing him several times on conference calls in the past) and i doubt if "Laughing boy" really knows him either.

beavisandbutt-head said...

GYHOOYA said...

blah, blah, blah...

gyhooya,

you are probably the reason why farrel had to get on meds. i think EVERYONE here pro or anti dorean will agree that having to deal with you could cause someone to turn to drug use or becoming an alcoholic. i can assure you that you may have babbled to kurt about farrel hurting your feelings but kurt surely didn't tell farrel to lighten up on you or anyone else. as for your assessment at the convention, i was there and i helped at the door for the first convention and farrel was just as confident as anyone there and if you were around during breaks farrel was engaged in talks about the process with groups of people surrounding him, so maybe your own meds caused you to see things that didn't actually happen. farrel was an ass to me on more than one occassion but he always apologized for his actions, and that was the result of him being a person that was not built to handle customer service, which he did not have a problem acknowledging to anyone. so thank you for admitting you take meds which now brings to light the reason why you post erratic writings that break all english composition taught in the 2nd and 3rd grade.

frivolous said...

Farrel was a good man, and a good pirate.

laughing lots said...

justice 7
i could really care less about you,lacompte his wife or son. I know what is rumored and what is true and dont owe you or him any explanations. he also knows what is and isnt true and he has to live with that and he will get what he deserves one way or another and that is a fact that cannot be disputed.
and it sounds like you ARE a fan of the dorean team...

mogel said...

Another major win against the IRS:

"A Shreveport attorney who has challenged the government for years on the legality of filing federal income taxes has been acquitted on charges he failed to file returns.

A federal jury unanimously found Tommy Cryer not guilty this week on two misdemeanor counts of failure to file.



And according to Cryer, the prosecution dismissed two felony charges of tax evasion prior to trial.

Attempts by The Times on Thursday to reach U.S. Attorney Donald Washington or Bill Flanagan, first assistant U.S. attorney, were not successful. Calls made to the two were not immediately returned.

"The court could not find a law that makes me liable or makes my revenues taxable," Cryer said. "The Supreme Court has ruled that the government cannot impose an income tax on anything but the profits and gains. When you work for someone you give your service and labor in exchange for money, so everything you make is not profit or gain. You put something into it."

Cryer was indicted last year on two counts of tax evasion. The indictment alleged he evaded payment of $73,000 in income tax to the Internal Revenue Service during 2000 and 2001.

Cryer created a trust listing himself as the trustee, and received payments of dividends, interest and stock income to that trust, according to the indictment. He also was accused of concealing his receipt of the sources of income from the IRS by failing to file a tax return on behalf of that trust.

"I determined that my personal earnings were not 100 percent profits, some were income," Cryer said. "I refuse to file, I refuse to pay unless they can show me I have a lawful reason to pay."

"What I earned was my own personal labor. I am giving something in exchange. I'm giving my property and I don't belong to anyone else."

Cryer says he stopped filing returns more than 10 years ago after he investigated claims that income tax was a sham. He contends the law doesn't actually tax personal earning."

glorybee said...

laughing lots said...
justice 7
i could really care less about you,lacompte his wife or son. I know what is rumored and what is true and dont owe you or him any explanations. he also knows what is and isnt true and he has to live with that and he will get what he deserves one way or another and that is a fact that cannot be disputed.

nice side stepping there and on that note everyone probably could care less about your pathic postings and lies as well because most people who know farrel or anything about his family are aware that he has a daughter and not a son you lying piece of doggy doo doo.

notorial dissent said...

Proving once again that Moogey can’t read or interpret "A Shreveport attorney who has challenged the government for years on the legality of filing federal income taxes has been acquitted on charges he failed to file returns.

A federal jury unanimously found Tommy Cryer not guilty this week on two misdemeanor counts of failure to file.


The charges he was acquitted of were “willfull failure to file”, having nothing whatsoever to do with the legality of the taxes, just that he intentionally did not file as opposed to didn’t file. Not much of a distinction, and has nothing to do with the legality of the taxes at all, just whether he thinks he has to file or not, and as they were misdemeanor charges they didn’t amount to much anyway. The kicker of course is that willfully or not, he still had to file, and he still owes the back taxes, and he will next be facing a civil proceeding to collect the back taxes, and there he won’t be able to plead legal stupidity, which for a lawyer is specious at best. So hardly a great win, and since this was only for one year, they can still nail him for all the other years he didn’t file as well. Whoopidy doo Moogs, another nonevent to celebrate.

mogel said...

Notarial Dissent said: "The kicker of course is that willfully or not, he still had to file,"
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Then, what explanation do you give due to the fact that he was acquitted for those two years for not filing? Shouldn't be have NOT been acquitted if there is a mandate to file a return for those two years & shouldn't he have lost & been convicted of those two counts for each year for not filing a return? Either it's mandatory or it's voluntary to file a return. Which is it? If it's mandatory, AS YOU SAY, he should have been convicted regardless of his beliefs.

The sentence of innocent on those two counts makes no sense with your reasoning & only time will tell if the Court forces him to pay a tax for those two years. I would bet the IRS due to the publicity already, would probably let the case die & not go after any monies they say might be due because if they lost again being unable to force him to pay anything by another disfavorable ruling, would be too risky for the IRS to pursue. I bet your wrong.

Your reasoning makes about as much sense as the customer service lady in the credit card department with HSBC today when she said I was eligible for a credit line increase. Course the company isn't called "HSBC", they are called "Cross Country Bank", which is an affiliate of HSBC which believes it has extra legal justification and license to pretend & overcharge compared to other credit card issuers. It gives a new meaning to the term "pretadatory lender".

The credit line increase letter said the credit line increase would be charged AS IF IT WERE a "cash advance", but said there would be no "cash advance fee," however, I wasn't granted a cash advance, just granted a "credit line" increase & only had to call & confirm if I wanted this. So that old addage if it walks and squawks like a duck, doesn't necessary mean it is in reality a duck, only that it may be treated as a duck.

Anyway in the original agreement in the fine print it said that a credit line increase MAY asssess a fee. It doesn't say clearly that a credit line increase DOES assess a fee, so more confusion is created. Course no other credit card issuers do this to my knowledge.

Anyway as it turned out, I was told a $350 credit line increase with "no cash advance fee" would still cost me $100 which would be immediately charged to my account upon acceptance, but how could anything be charged to my account when the telephone recording to confuse further, & to invite an acceptance, said there would be no "cash advance fee?" charged. Course what kind of fee is the $100 then? Apparently there is no name for the fee. So much for disclosure.

The confusion & ambiguity of it all pissed me off so much I told the customer service to just close my account today after I learned further that because I was 50 cents short of last months minimum monthly payment, my account was charged another $35.00 in a late fee. However, mind you, the monthly fee of $11.00/month is just a monthly charge for the privilege of having the account regardless if there is anything owed anyway. My true balance is zero, since I've charged nothing on it in the last several months. To top it off, they did in fact send me a billing for $10.50 & I paid what the billing said, so I suspect the billing department purposely billed me 50 cents short, so the company could charge me the extra $35.00 late fee thinking I wouldn't figure this out.

The customer service representative said she would honor my request to IMMEDIATELY CLOSE MY ACCOUNT, however, how can the company close an account if the company still insists I owe money, you know the 50 cents balance & the late fee balance of $35.00 & the $100 charge for the privilege of a credit line increase for 1 hour which wasn't used by the way. Anyway, not only is the credit account being closed, but I'm receiving a credit of a $10.50 check in the mail payable to me in the next week which means the charges weren't valid in the first place & they are waiving the fees charged.

Makes me wonder how they will do the accounting on all of this to make everything zero out to follow GAAP.

I suppose if you call something which it is not like calling the taxing system mandatory, when the codes use the word "voluntary" with enough pretending you can make a voluntary act something which it is not too, or make an act of ommission, an act of commission too by just labeling it differently or treating it as if it is also something it is not, just like in the case of the credit card companies confusion they threw at me today where I just had to say, "enough" I'm not doing this anymore.

This example is just like the IRS that pretends that 100% of it's Citizens are taxable, when only about 1% of the people are really even liable to the federal income tax, but with enough confusion & subterfuse, you can make something into something which it is not & alter people's beliefs and actions.

How funny that you say I am confused about the meat of the ruling when all I did was quote the attorney's own words. I didn't really editorialize on it. If anyone is confused about the IRS, it would have to be the lawyer that won his case. I think you were confused thinking I was putting in my own words & thoughts, when I was quoting as usual, at least in this particular case. :o)

Any concession from the cheating & deceiving & lying IRS is a major victory in my book, so excuse me!

mogel said...

Notarial Dissent said: "The charges he was acquitted of were “willfull failure to file”, having nothing whatsoever to do with the legality of the taxes,"
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Oh you mean the legality of REQUIRING EVERYONE to file a return & pay taxes due based upon the law that DOESN'T EXIST and the law that the prosecution never bothered to enter into the court records in this case? "Oh yes you're honor, there definitely was a murder committed, but we refuse to enter the body in as evidence of that murder."

Course if you treat "income" in a way that it really isn't or isn't according to Supreme Court decisions in the past, you can further confuse & even make a persons labor subject to a federal tax if you want to lie & deceive. And if you are good enough at lying, you can even make almost all people believe that they are also subject to a tax that was originally intended only for a select few. And if you threaten & imprison enough people, you can get most people OUT OF FEAR not to discover the truth that the Emperor is not wearing any clothes & in fact is completely naked.

mogel said...

Justice7777777 said:

"I am no fan of dorean, et al. as everyone knows"
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Justice: Do you mean by that statement you can swear under oath that you HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF DOREAN & have never been a supporter of the Dorean process at anytime ever?

Yes, or no?

mogel said...

Another recent case found.

Subject: Fw: WILLFUL FAILURE TO FILE CASE DISMISSED FOR CAUSE . . . PROSECUTION CAN'T PROVIDE THE STATUTE MAKING THE PARTY REQUIRED TO FILE
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:49:27 -0700


Subject: transcript of Hauert

Heads up: Please keep this going: Hauert was indicted on five counts Se. 7203 WILLFUL FAILURE etc. Hauert wanted to know the OFFENCE statute he was accused of violating and would be pleading guilty to. He wanted to know the particular statute that made him the person required to pay the income tax. His attorney (addressing the judge) "The prosecution has been trying to get my client to plea bargain. My client is interested but has a few demands of the prosecution in order to understand the charges and determine the potential guilt. He has a serious question that nobody will address. Will the court entertain that question?"
Judge: "Certainly."
Hauert: "Your honor, Section 7203 of the I.R. Code is a DIS-CIPLINARY STATUTE. It defines the penalty for someone who has broken the law. I need to know the underlying offense statute that is used to determine if I am the "any person" required to file. The term "any person" is ambiguous.
Judge: "I don't know what he is asking for.(Looking at Prosecutor) Do you know what he's asking for?"
Prosecutor: "No, your honor, I don't know what he's asking for either."
Judge: "I am not knowledgeable of every law and can't be."
(Hey, isn't he presumed to to know the law?)
Hauert: Could you please bring me the I.R. Code book with 7203 in it so I can show you what I am talking about. (note: the clerk brought in the I.R.Code book.)
Judge: (Reading Sec. 7203) " Any person required under this title to pay any estimated tax or tax, or required by this title or by regulations made under authority thereof to make a return, keep any records, or supply any information, who willfully fails to pay such estimated tax or tax, make such return..."
Judge: "Sounds clear to me."
Note: (In the words of Hauert) "I looked at the prosecuting attorney and criminal investigator looking business-like and smiling confidently and I thought, these suckers have gotten to the judge."
Hauert: "May I see the book? (Reading) any person required by this Title...What I am asking is, what statute establishes the FACT that I am one of these "persons" required, by this title, to pay the tax? Where, exactly, in the Title is the offense defined, where am I made the subject of the tax?"
Note: (In the words of Hauert: "I then handed the judge back the book. Looking perplexed, the judge read those words over and over again for what felt like an eternity.")
Judge: "So what you're asking for, Mr. Hauert, is the Statute, referred to in Section 7203, that makes a person liable for the tax and subject to the penalties imposed by Section 7203?"
Hauert: "Yes, that's what I have been asking the prosecutor for. I have also been asking the IRS the same question for several years and no one will give me the Statute of law that I am accused of breaking."
Note: In one sentence that would destroy the government's entire case,
Judge: "No problem, Mr. Proscutor, I'm sure that you can provide a copy of that statute."
Prosecutor: (Stammering and stuttering) "Um, ohh.. I'm...uh.. not familiar with.. uh.. that part of the code." (With that, the Prosecutor lost his business like composure and the case was concluded. The prosecutor was ordered to find someone who knew which statute defined the offense.)
Hauert's attorney then requested a Bill of Particulars, defining the specific offense statute that created the liability for Hauert to pay the income tax and file a 1040 Tax Retutn. A Bill of Particulars is a written statement of the SPECIFIC CHARGES agains the defendant. This switched the burden of proof back to the government to provide such a statute. After an extended period of time, the prosecution still could not supplt the court with the offense statute or regulation that made Tom Hauert (or any American Citizen) the person made liable to pay the S.1 graduated Income Tax (because no such statute exists). Hauert, therefore, filed for and was granted a dismissal!

neodemes said...

More tired "Patriot" bullcrap from Moogie, first blathered by Bob O'Brian on whatever blogs he can find to post on.

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=112057;title=APFN

http://hourofthetime.blogspot.com/

Wassamatter moogs, you weren't comfortable leaving the Patriot references in your cut and paste version?

LOL

notorial dissent said...

Moogie does another misinterpretation Then, what explanation do you give due to the fact that he was acquitted for those two years for not filing?

Moogs, the charge was willful failure to file, and somehow he managed to convince a jury that he was stupid enough to not know he had to file. That is what he was acquitted of, nothing else. It doesn’t change his tax liability or anything else, he just got verification that as a lawyer, he was too stupid to know what he was supposed to be doing.

His tax liability hasn’t changed, and he will be tried in civil court for that and have to pay up eventually. He’s already been disbarred, and he’ll never get a license again, so his career, such as it was, as a lawyer is at an end.

Moogs, your credit problems do not interest me in the least. The less I know of your personal life the happier I will be.

Moogey, there is no pretense about it, if you have income over a certain amount you are subject to tax. No trick to it, that is the way the law is written.

Like I said, the only thing Cryer got out of this little exercise is a jury’s confirmation that he is too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Just so we’re clear here Moogs, willful failure means you intentionally didn’t do something you were required to do, in this case, file a return. It doesn’t mean you weren’t require to file, just that you were too stupid to know that you should.

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Another recent case found.
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I don't think so. Your headline is from the Cryer case–your "transcript" is from Hauert in 1994. The case is not online (that I can find) but it is cited in other cases. It appears that Hauert was convicted and appealed and the appeal was denied. If you can find something in the offical records that says otherwise, please post it.
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See United States v. Hauert, 40 F.3d 197, 199-200 (7th Cir. 1994) (holding that evidence of defendant's statements and conduct at an audit was admissible in a tax evasion trial because it was offered to prove defendant's knowledge and intent regarding the obligation to pay taxes), cert. denied, 514 U.S. 1095 (1995);


http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/boundvolumes/514bv.pdf
No. 94–1392. Hauert v. United States. C. A. 7th Cir.
Certiorari denied. Reported below: 40 F. 3d 197.

Also cited here:
Willfulness may also be shown by such acts as mailing tax protest
materials to the IRS, disregarding IRS warning letters, and filing
contradictory forms.

United States

v. Shivers, 788 F.2d 1046, 1048

(5th Cir. 1986) (defendant filed a W-4 claiming he was exempt from
withholding only four days after filing a W-4 claiming three allowances); see also United States v. Upton, 799 F.2d 432, 433 (8th Cir. 1986) (defendant sent protestor materials to IRS).

There is also an element of common sense in establishing willfulness
in a failure to file case. Thus, willfulness can be shown by such factors as: the background of the defendant; the filing of returns in prior years,

United States v. Briscoe, 65 F.3d 576, 588 (7th Cir. 1995);

United States v. Hauert, 40 F.3d 197, 199 (7th Cir. 1994);
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And I doubt seriously that the "transcript" is real.