Thursday, July 24, 2008

The True Winers (07-04-08)

Again I apologize for the delays caused by my travels and the unfortunate destruction of the blogs previously written that has caused my lack of communication. I did obtain one benefit of being able to talk with some of you by phone. What a delight you are. Let me put it to you by way of scripture. In John 2:1-11 we see Christ manifested by His first miracle. Mary dictates to her son a mandate for help. He rebukes her gently but does not dismiss the need. She was His mother in the flesh but had no spiritual authority over Him. He was about His Father's business. How many times have we mandated to the Lord how He should solve our problem. I have been guilty even in this trial. As I enter my third year of incarceration I can say for certain God has missed every deadline I've set for Him. What is clear about this miracle is that Jesus is in control. He is in control of your relationship to Dorean and Dorean's relationship to the mortgage industry. The scripture says "Blessed is the man who waits upon the Lord." What I heard from those I talked with was you waiting upon the Lord. That blessed me. Like you I am convinced that only Christ can turn water into wine for His glory. We can fill the water pots and obey His commands. Soon though our faith will require us to "draw out" this wine and display it to the world. (The governor). Though they will be amazed they will not know what the servants know. That is why the retards on this blog will never cease being the critics. Even when the wine arrives and Christ has manifested Himself only the servant will understand. Even the many retards who claim Christ have a Christ they control of their own imagination. They will still rebuke the servants in the know because they are ignorant. I know some of you are ready now with a right heart, a servants heart, to see what the Lord will do. I like you patiently wait upon the Lord. In the end the wine is the best and is more than abundant to the need. He overwhelms the need in quantity and in quality. This is what I couldn't teach many but that is because the Lord has not committed Himself to them. They claim Him for their glory not for His. They are willing not to sacrifice all for the glory of knowing Him. Those who know Him and obeyed Him in joining Dorean know He sees your need and soon what is impossible for man will be done by Him. Thanks for encouraging me with your faith. You are the true winers.

59 comments:

neodemes said...

"Those who know Him and obeyed Him in joining Dorean"

You pompous ass.


"Thanks for encouraging me with your faith. You are the true winers."

You spelled 'wieners' wrong.

judge allslop said...

Good thing Jesus loves you.

notorial dissent said...

Blasphemy, nonsense, and nausea all in one compact pile of dung. How typical.

mogel007 said...

Nemo: You spelled "I'm" wrong, you spelled it as "you",
as in "I'm a pompous ass". When you speak in first person tense, you need to make it clear that you are speaking in first person. Honest mistake though on your part, you're forgiven.

I understood what you were really trying to say though. I agree it's quite pompous to assume what the answers to prayer are, that others might receive. It's almost like dictating to God what he can or cannot speak as if it's really our business to say.

Speaking of wine, or strong drink, I don't think you have the gift of the "discerning of spirits".

mogel007 said...

As Earnest & Gallo so eloquently said:

"We will make no wine, until it's time."

near the end said...

Nemo and notorial dissent;

Are you responding to Kurt's post as JESUS would want you to?

I think you to need a real cleansing.

I forgive you both.

neodemes said...

That was even lamer than usual, moogs.

dr. ira gilac said...

seem like sum of burly bowls HYPs are gong to pay out....


verrrrry long read...but good stuff here...even juggns cant put a bad spin on it in the end....





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[b]NEW Revised Receiving Reminders

From what we are hearing, arrangements for our fulfillments are approaching completion both here and across the ocean. We have excellent news about readiness progress in Europe and it coincides with what we are hearing about the 50 states. We're hearing that California will probably be the first state fully changed over and has been the testing ground for all the changes already. AND, all has gone very well in these tests!

If you know the inside story, then actually, you've seen some of the signs of our funding coming for over a year. I'm told that well over a year ago, the major banks in the 50 states signed agreements with the Treasury Dept. to become T-banks. It was also understood that any bank continuing to do business after the change over, will have to be affiliated with one of these major banks. This is WHY we have seen SO MANY bank mergers in the last few years. [First Union is merging with Wachovia in Atlanta.]

I also have direct personal reports from a small bank in Washington state and a small bank in Oregon, where the bank management admitted that they had been informed prior to last Fall about the change over to the Treasury Bank system. Quite a few lenders have spoken with their local bankers who have admitted they are aware of this change coming.

In the last 6 weeks, we've heard reports of MORE progress being made in this huge changeover process. It appears that all these activities are being test-run in California first -- we have detailed information about these activities and all is going well.

If any of you have ever managed or coordinated a BIG system conversion or implementation of any kind, then you understand that these kinds of changes take lots of time and lots of testing. The White Knights have done an amazingly thorough job of making sure that this change over occurs like clockwork. They have tested and re-tested to make sure everything is working exactly per plan.

Some of you have heard that we will have MANY pots of funds coming to us -- this is TRUE. When we go to the bank, we will have a listing report of all the programs from which we are receiving funds and the amounts we are receiving from each. We will need to take an official copy of this listing with us when we leave and put it in a SAFE place.

The IRS will be gone by the time we access our funds. I was very happy to hear some of my contacts (who have been debating this issue with me for months) finally say last week that they are hearing the IRS "demise" is "imminent". My contacts are saying that their sources were hearing last week that the IRS will be gone shortly and there have been meetings in the last two weeks about closing it down. These contacts are hearing this in the "normal network" and the normal network is now agreeing with the White Knight network info.

I'm also hearing that all other INTRUSIVE organizations which try to limit our liberty and financial sovereignty will also be GONE.

Just watch, folks, AMAZING things are happening!

So it's time to get ready and here is my NEW revised summary of reminders. PLEASE OBTAIN YOUR OWN EXPERT LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL FINANCIAL ADVICE under the new conditions in which we will find ourselves. Below are REVISED and NEW reminders of issues we need to consider. There's lots more to think about -- this is a BASIC list of considerations:

1. I'm hearing both sovereigns and non-sovereigns state they are signing for the delivery of the envelope(s) with just their normal signature. Signing documentation actually connected to our blessings is another matter -- I will be obtaining expert advice on this subject, and taking into account whether we are already under Constitutional Law at that time.

My PERSONAL thought is that IF we are already under Constitutional Law, it will vastly simplify our access to FULL Sovereignty. I have SOME details about this that indicate we will have easy access to Full Sovereignty - a way of life NEW to all of us.

2. We need to carefully read all Non Disclosures (ND) and make

sure we understand EVERY word, phrase, and requirement FULLY. Have a legal expert knowledgeable in contract law and/or international investing help us understand each ND we sign so that we can stay free of breaching our ND. (I have been told we may have other NDs for other programs we are receiving.)

3. We will have a listing at the bank of all the programs from which we are receiving funds and the amount per program. We need to be sure we leave with an official copy of this listing.

We are hearing the ND says during the ND period (180 days, we

hear) to AVOID telling anyone that our blessings came from our program. This means we totally "avoid using or saying the name of our program" during this time. We also must avoid admitting anything about where our funds come from if anyone ASKS us questions about our blessings. We must pretend for the ND period that we totally lack any knowledge of our program.

If anyone asks us from "where" our blessings come, I'm told we can

say: "I have a great windfall; I'm under Non Disclosure about the source, AND, I have Triple-C documentation from the bank stating that the funds are clean, clear, and non-criminal in origin."

ALL anyone deserves to know is that the funds are CLEAN, and we all will have documentation proving this. That's all we have to tell them. We may have the question about the "source" of our abundance come up when we purchase real estate or other expensive things. This is why, to cover all these needs for up to 6 months, we need numerous copies of the Triple-C documentation.

4. IF we have a 180 day Non Disclosure, we will need numerous copies of CCC documentation to get us through the next several months. Obtain 10-12 certified copies of the Triple-C documentation for your funds from the bank - request these on your FIRST visit and, if necessary, give them a day or so to get them ready.

We heard that people who recently received the last test deliveries DID receive 3 copies of CCC documentation with their debit card when they went to the bank. From this, it appears the bank will have a few CCC copies ready when we arrive to pick up our debit card(s).

The bank MUST give us this documentation -- it's part of their responsibility and service. Keep the copies in various safe locations away from the bank. We will need "Triple-C documentation"

from our bank when we transfer funds and it certifies that our funds are "clean, clear, and non-criminal" in origin. In other words, our funds are clean money.

5. Debit Cards: I'm told we will be receiving debit cards for all our numerous "pots of gold" we are receiving. Lenders who received recent test deliveries went to the bank and received a debit card with

8 figure amount and 3 copies of CCC documentation for it.

We need to use our "program funds debit cards" ONLY to TRANSFER funds to other bank accounts. It is DANGEROUS to use these debit cards for routine purchases because someone may take our debit card number and use it to illegally purchase things. We must SAFEGUARD our program funds debit cards by using these special debit cards ONLY on bank-to-bank transfers.

I am also told we will be informed of how to transfer funds using these debit cards in order to make large, SECURE purchases.

Just remember, our program debit cards in the wrong hands will give a thief the ability to access our millions $$$$.

I am going to open up other bank accounts in which I will keep up to $100,000, for example. I will use bank-to-bank transfer to move my program funds into these smaller bank accounts. I will obtain debit cards for these small bank accounts and will use these debit cards to make my routine purchases.

I also intend to obtain an Exclusive Visa for making purchases and our assigned private banker will be able to obtain this for us.

6. Regarding any gold certificates we may have, PLEASE GET EXPERT ADVICE ON THIS. This is a kind of asset with which most of us are unfamiliar. I've heard that the ND and instructions may include information about what we are able to do regarding any assets of this kind. When we see this information ourselves, we will know what our options are.

IF we have bearer bonds or gold certificates and "if" we keep them in any bank, I'm told we need to have a notarized statement (copies with original signatures and dated by the top two bank officers on bank stationery/form and a copy front & back of the certificates/ bonds), stating the amount of these bonds/certificates we have in the bank and that these bonds/certificates are being kept in the VAULT.

I've been told this is the only way to hold the bank responsible "IF" bonds or certificates disappear somehow. I was told this morning that there are TWO copies of this documentation already prepared -- documentation proving we are the owners of these certificates. I'm told that the certificates are required to be kept at the bank, however, we can take our PROOF of ownership documents and put them in safe locations away from the bank. I'm told we need to keep these two copies of our ownership documentation in different SECURE and Fireproof locations. One option might be a hidden SAFE on property we own.

I'm told the gold certificates have some connection to the Treasury Bank system being put into place and that we will be required to keep these gold certificates in the bank. I'm told that, at a later date, we will be able to convert them to cash if we wish. I'm told that ALL this is explained in our information we will receive.

This is the best information I have on this today.

7. SCAM artists are still likely to target us -- there are many who have been waiting for this funding to run their scams. If a STRANGER calls or visits us to offer investment services, humanitarian projects, or to "confirm" or "audit" that we received our blessings, -- THIS IS A RED FLAG! Hang up or shut the door immediately and avoid admitting receiving your blessings.

The IRS will be GONE by the time we arrive at the bank, I'm told.

Therefore, anyone pretending to be a tax auditor or someone from the delivery service confirming you received -- THESE are TRICKS to try to get us to breach our ND and lose our blessings! Refuse to talk with them.

8. Security of ourselves, our homes, and our families must be handled. Some lenders, who have already received, have had strangers walk up to their doors offering investment services (BEWARE of SCAM ARTISTS) or asking for handouts. These people obtained the lenders' names illegally -- our names and addresses are supposed to be kept confidential. We all need to take security precautions - electronic security systems at home and offices, and personal security of children and elderly family members. Some residential areas are more secure than others -- we need to consider these things when we buy new homes.

9. Get EXPERT ADVICE regarding putting our funds into other financial entities -- such as foundation-type entities, etc., -- rather than our personal names. This is to increase our privacy from annoying or dangerous contacts. I'm told there will be new options in financial entities.

I'm hearing that it's wise to AVOID putting our blessings in just ONE entity. For added safety, I'm hearing it's good to use more than one firm to assist us in setting up various financial entities, have more than one expert involved, and set up entities in various safe countries.

A "financial entity" is a trust, foundation, company, etc., into which we place our blessings so that we have more personal privacy and more diversification of our funds. Definitely, we want to avoid "putting all our eggs in one basket". I'm hearing it's extremely important that we PERSONALLY approve EVERY DETAIL of all our financial entities, to avoid possible losses.

I have heard we "might" have a "trust" already set up for each of us - but this could be a trap. Even if the intention was good, I was told this trust could be used by the dark agenda to try to steal our funds. I was told these trusts, which purportedly have been set up for each of us, are in a certain bank -- a bank with a long history of swindling funds from people.

This is WHY I have been saying, each of us must set up OUR OWN financial entities and KNOW every detail ourselves. We need to avoid putting all our funds into any single financial entity and certainly, ONLY into those which WE PERSONALLY have set up.

I asked the White Knights to look into this some months ago and asked that, if possible, that they take steps to nullify the danger these trusts might cause to lenders. I'm hopeful that this has been handled.

With a trust, WE must know Every Detail, WHO the trustees are and WHAT their POWERS are, and make sure WE have control of the funds at all times. If we have an unscrupulous trust or trustee, our funds can be stolen from us. If what I'm hearing is correct, we may have better and new options surfacing -- we need to keep our eyes and ears open about these kinds of things.

10. BEING QUIET and PRIVATE about our good fortune, especially during the ND period, is key. I'm told we can give gifts to others (see ND for details) and we need to do these things PRIVATELY without fanfare and publicity. Also, important to take our time and get educated about our options before we make any decisions. Stay quiet and research what our options are and GET EXPERT ADVICE based on CURRENT conditions. It may take a few months for some of the major improvements to be completed.

11. Avoid saying anything to anyone about the AMOUNTS $$ we are receiving -- this is another key point in the ND, I'm told. Avoid talking on unsecure phone lines, in email, chat, or faxes -- avoid discussing anything about our amounts or that our blessings are coming from our program. There are ways to tap into all our communications. We need to get encrypted communications capabilities (a standard procedure for many rich people) to talk to our legal/financial advisors and others.

Some of us plan to communicate about doing projects together and this kind of communication must be done via encrypted communications. After reading the ND, to avoid any possibility of breaching the ND, we may decide to do small projects individually at first. Then after the ND expires, we will be free to do bigger projects together. We need to be very careful about all our communications.

12. Watch the changes in our country and the world -- keep track of changes in laws and banking systems. Research what we need to do with our offshore blessings and take appropriate action.

AND, let's all take some time and RELAX and recharge ourselves. BE HAPPY, enjoy life and our loved ones.

Let's be in "an attitude of gratitude" when we do our prayers and meditations. Let's continue to AFFIRM that we know our wonderful abundant blessings are ALREADY OURS and all goes smoothly as deliveries proceed!

"We AFFIRM and KNOW that our prayers ARE being answered and that all lenders yet to receive in our BIG program are now receiving our blessings in TOTAL HAPPY PEACE! We know the GREAT LOVE of our Creator is calming the weather in the world; and all lenders in all 68 programs worldwide, and all White Knights worldwide involved in the great divine changes, ARE surrounded with protection, wisdom, and happiness as all lenders receive our fulfillments. We KNOW and AFFIRM that our White Knights are blessed with great protection, strength, wisdom, divine providence, resources and are easily neutralizing all the activities of the dark agenda regarding us and our blessings. We KNOW and AFFIRM our prayers ARE ANSWERED as the great divine plan unfolds into the Age of Miracles of peace, love, prosperity, wisdom, compassion, and liberty for all. We AFFIRM and KNOW we ARE going forth and each of us is living our divine purposes fully in great wisdom and strength. We KNOW all who have and are contributing to these great wonderful divine changes are being blessed with happy abundance, wisdom, and all their heart's desire. WE ARE SO THANKFUL for the wonderful blessings we are receiving and for the opportunity to live our dreams, and assist everyone in living their dreams, of a much better world for all in happy peace, love, harmony, liberty, sovereignty, wisdom, prosperity, and cooperation worldwide."

Blessings and Love,



Please keep these instructions in a safe place for your very soon to be bank visit. (for those of you of whom I have not heard from, please e-mail me today to confirm you have received this

information.)

Subject: a list O Suggestions for banking

A REMINDER FOR THINGS TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU RECEIVE LETTER, SET UP APPOINT AND THEN GO TO THE BANK TO OPEN ACCOUNT:

READ THROUGH YOUR LETTER SEVERAL TIMES. THEN FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. HAVE A STRONG VOICE WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR APPOINTMENT. WEAR YOUR BEST CLOTHES (AND

ATTITUDE) TO THE MEETING.



YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A COPY OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS TO READ OVER AS A CHECK LIST. CALM YOURSELF DOWN BEFORE LEAVING HOME AND WHILE DRIVING TO THE BANK. WHISTLE OR HUM A FAVORITE SONG...ANYTHING TO STAY CALM!

TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE ENTERING BANK. STAND UP STRONG AND WALK AS THE WEALTHY VISIONARY/MEGA-MEGA MILLIONAIRE YOU ARE! ASK TO SEE THE PRESIDENT/MANAGER OF THE DESIGNATED BANK. GIVE HER/HIM A GREAT BIG SMILE AND A GOOD STRONG HANDSHAKE! LOCATE A GOOD SEATING POSITION. SIT IN A CHAIR WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE DOOR.

FIND ONE THAT IS NOT IN FRONT THE PRESIDENT'S DESK. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE POWER SEAT.

ASK IF YOU CAN RECORD THE CONVERSATION THEN TURN ON YOUR TAPE RECORDER (IF YOU BROUGHT ONE.) ACT LIKE YOU HAVE DONE THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE. BE CAREFUL NOT TO ACT LIKE YOU ARE NAIVE AND IGNORANT.

REQUEST THAT TWO SENIOR BANK OFFICERS BE PRESENT WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR PACKAGE. KEEP YOUR COMPOSURE AND YOUR MOUTH CLOSED. THIS IS THE TIME TO HAVE A POKER FACE IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD ONE. TAKE YOUR TIME. READ SLOWLY THROUGHT THE DOCUMENTS.

CCC LETTERS GET 6-10 copies - signed, dated and notarized by TWO SENIOR OFFICERS. (Laser color)

LETTER OF CREDIT GET 6-10 copies - same as above procedure

COPY OF ACCOUNTS GET a copy of ALL ACCOUNTS DEPOSITED AT THE BANK WITH YOUR NAME ON THEM. YOU MAY BE RECEIVING FUNDS FROM ANOTHER PROGRAM. Also signed, dated and notarized by TWO SENIOR OFFICERS.



REFRAIN FROM CHIT CHATTING WITH THE BANKERS AS TO THE NATURE OF THESE PROGRAMS AND HOW YOU GOT IN. ONE COMMENT MIGHT BE: "GOD GAVE ME THIS MONEY. I WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A SITUATION."

PRINTOUT 25 PGMS ASK FOR A Printout of all other programs showing names and amounts. Same procedure as above.

CASHIERS CHECK TO BE DEPOSITED AT THE BANK (REM. BK ACCT. ONLY IS ONLY OPEN A MONEY MARK ACCOUNT THAT IS INSURED FOR UP TO $25M.WITH A STOCKBROKER (WHEN I ASKED MY BANKER MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND AS TO WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ALWAYS OPEN THE CHECKING ACCOUNT AND THEN TRANSFER FUNDS TO ANOTHER ACCOUNT.



BE SURE TO DIVERSIFY AND NOT PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET/BANK. THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE ENOUGH MONEY ON OUR MONEY...OR THAT IS MY OPINION. SOMETIMES IT IS BETTER TO SHOP AT A SMALLER STORE THAN A LARGER CHAIN STORE.)

YOU MAY WANT TO SET UP A CORPORATION AND THEN PUT THESE FUNDS IN THAT ACCOUNT OR YOUR MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE UNLIMITED ACCESS TO YOUR FUNDS. BE CAREFUL ABOUT GETTING INTO ANY TRUST WITH THE BANK GIVING CONTROL OF YOUR FUND TO THEM AS TRUSTEE OR SIGNING A POWER OF ATTORNEY WITH THE BANK. TAKE YOUR TIME TO DETERMINE WHAT IS BEST FOR YOUR SITUATION.

GOLD CERTIFICATE

Get a signed, dated and notarized copy from the Bank of how many Gold Barrier Bonds there are and what each is worth.

Each certificate's number should be listed. Leave the Gold Certificates in the Bank Vault. Get Safekeeping receipt signed by TWO SENIOR BANK OFFICERS along with their official Seal.



Get 3 copies made with signatures, date and notarized.

Take original and 3 copies of Safekeeping receipt home and Store in a fire proof box.

(These If needed).



NEW CHECKS

Get new checks with your name for your new account.

EXCLUSIVE VISA

Get an Exclusive Visa Card from the Banker TRANSFERRING FUNDS to other Banks. Your CCC LETTER must Accompany all transferring of Funds. You must notify the Receiving Bank or funds will be returned. Sometimes the Initial Bank will do this for you as they have your CCC Letter on file.



USE DEBIT CARDS TO MAKE LARGER TRANSFERS.

DO NOT USE IT AT ATM MACHINES OR FOR PURCHASES. ONLY USE YOUR OTHER EXCLUSIVE VISA CARD FOR YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT FOR DAY TO DAY USE. YOUR OFFSHORE CARDS WILL BE ABLE TO BE TRACED TO OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS. BE SURE YOU ARE AWARE AND SET UP YOUR ACCOUNTS WITH THIS IN MIND.

FINCEN, AMERICAN EXPRESS AND MASTER CARD AND PROBABLY VISA NOTIFY IRS OF OFFSHORE TRANSACTIONS.

FIND A SAVVY INTERNATIONAL LAWYER/FINANCIAL ADVISER TO ASSIST YOU.

TAKE YOUR TIME. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS. TAKE NOTES. REMEMBER YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A SMALL TAPE RECORDER SO YOU DO NOT FORGET SOMETHING AFTER YOU GET HOME. ALSO REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE.



ALLOW NO INTIMIDATION BY THE BANKER OR ANYONE ELSE. LEAVE THE BANK A LITTLE LIGHTER THAN YOU WALKED IN.



GO DO SOMETHING YOU HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO. TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO GET USED TO CHANGES. HAVE FUN!!!!



PROCEDURE WHEN YOU PICK UP YOUR PAC

- consider this Suggested procedure when you pick up your pac From a reliable and experienced banking contact.

1.Request a bank officer to be present when you open your Pac to verify the contents.

2.The Cashier's Check should be deposited at the bank where you receive Pac. At that time, make sure you have the CCC [Clean Clear Funds of Non-Criminal Origin Certificate] signed and notarized by two bank officers for all funds in Pac.

3.Make extra copies and file in a safe place for future use.

4.File the CCC with bank officers.§ For transferring funds only

1.A CCC signed by 2 bank officers must accompany all transferring funds.

2. Notify receiving bank in advance that you are having a brand X bank KTT or SWIFT into your account. If you don't notify your receiving bank in advance they have to return your funds to the issuing bank. For gold certificate only

1. Deposit Gold Certificate with the bank where you picked up your Pac 2. Get a Safekeeping Receipt signed by two bank officers along with their official seal.

3.Take original and copies of Safekeeping Receipt home and store it in a safe fireproof box.



Important note:

If you decide later to transfer any funds to another bank, have the bank KTT or SWIFT to the bank of your choice.

Make sure the bank includes a copy of the CCC [Clean Clear Funds of Non-Criminal Origin] with every transfer. Gold Certificate can be used for a line of credit.

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Conceal the existence of a safe-depsit box:

1. Ask your lawyer to set up a nominee corporation - a corporation that has no other function but to stand in your place for the purposes you designate, such as to rent a safe-deposit box.

2. Rent a box in the name of the corporation and pay for it in cash.

Your name and signature will be on the bank signature card, but the corporation, not you, will be listed as the box's owner on the bank's records. And because you paid cash, there will be nothing in your records to connect the box with you.

3. You can, if you wish, name another person as signatory in addition to yourself. Then, if something happens to you, that person will be able to get into the box.

Additional protection. Having a safedeposit box in a corporation's name permits the box to be opened by your survivors without the state or the bank being notified of your death and having the box sealed. Othrwise, the survivor must get in to the box before the funeral to look for a will and to find whatever else may be there.

ALSO: Beware of your accountant: Your accountant is the person you should fear the most if you ever become the subject of an IRS criminal investigation. There is no such thing as accountant-client privilege. He/she is one of the best witnesses the IRS can have to help it make its case that you committed a tax crime. If the accountant doesn't cooperate, he will be subpoenaed. IRS special agents regularly obtain testimony from a taxpayer's accountant to refute the defense "I don't know anything about income taxes - my accountant told me to do it that way." Get a tax attorney to do your accounting for you....he is bound by client-lawyer confidentiality.

Subject: Asset Protection

Simple Free Asset Protection Tips :

*Divide and Conquer

Always use a separate entity for each liability generating asset and never mix liability generating assets. For example, an apartment house should not be owned by the same entity which owns a printing business.

*Get Good Advice

Get a local lawyer (much like a "family" doctor). Pay for some advice every time you make an important move. It is money well spent. By the way, the market is flooded with well trained and underutilized lawyers. Don't be afraid to negotiate fees.

*Avoid General Partnerships

Avoid general partnerships and handshake agreements. This only causes trouble. Did you know that any general partner can commit the partnership (and hence every other general partner) to any legal contract (like taking out a loan). All general partners are jointly and severally liable.

Assume that most "Asset Protection Experts" are unqualified...because they are. Please read our traps and scams page. Always check references and avoid the professional "seminar givers." Never assume that "charging order protection" is enough, never trust anybody who asks you to trust anybody else with your money and never trust anybody who promises to save you income taxes.

*Stealth Works

Don't show off and don't put everything in your name. If people think that you are rich you will be sued. If you are unwilling to have a modest lifestyle (and many of us are not willing) then keep a low a profile as possible and don't title your assets directly in your own name. Remember, to take your assets they first have to be found. Also remember that a good asset protection plan does not rely on stealth. It should work even if every single document is discovered.

*Each State is Different

Remember, what a creditor can get is often controlled by state law. Get good advice and you may be able to keep assets even when faced with serious creditor attack. For example, some states have liberal homestead laws and some states accord greater protection to pension plan type accounts than other states.

*No Country Automatically Recognizes US Judgments Remember, no country in the world automatically recognizes U.S. based judgments. In fact, most countries think that our tort laws, securities laws and anti-trust laws are nonsensical. Also, no country in the world recognizes US tax judgments.

*Never Ignore a Lawsuit

If you are served always get good advice.

*Keep Insurance

Even if you effect a state of the art asset protection plan you still should keep adequate insurance. Often the main value of a good policy is that the insurance company must provide you a defense.





Dear A-Letter Reader,

Last week, I suggested you take fifteen minutes and jot down a list of your asset protection and investment goals. This is simple and yet effective way to move towards the "financial freedom" we often talk about here in the A-Letter.

If your list looks anything like mine, it probably includes items like

better investments, financial security for your family, protection for your assets, or just diversifying yourself out of the dollar. There's one step you can take that will help you meet all these goals: opening an offshore bank account. But wait - what's so special about an offshore bank account?

An offshore bank account gives you special access to the top-performing investments all over the world. This is the easiest way to get your hands on

> the double and triple digit profits waiting offshore. You have the

> freedom

to invest in the entire investment universe from Chinese stocks and Danish blue-chips to Turkish bonds and Isle of Man insurance contracts. An offshore bank account is also a simple way to diversify out of the U.S. dollar. Simply holding your wealth in a basket of currencies can protect your assets as the U.S. dollar takes a nosedive. And don't forget, if your offshore bank account holds stronger currencies like the British pound or euro, your account could appreciate without you having to do anything! And let's talk about financial privacy. An offshore bank account is one of the last ways an American can secure true financial privacy. You still have to report your offshore bank account gains to the IRS, but no one else has to know. That means data-brokers, sue-happy lawyers, ex-spouses, and even creditors will be politely turned away if they try to inquire about your offshore bank holdings.

In places like Switzerland, Liechtenstein, and Singapore, bank confidentiality is the law. Bankers can literally go to prison for breaking that confidentiality. In Liechtenstein, any person inquiring about your bank account has to get a local court order. That means creditors seeking your bank account information face an extremely long and expensive process.

Lawyers wanting to know about your account (so they can sue you) face similar obstacles.

So, are you ready to set up your offshore account yet? If so, here are the steps you need to take...

1. Decide where in the world you would like to bank.

2. Once you have a place in mind, you should check out the bank's reputation, financial condition, fees, services, and related costs. Also, ensure that the bank welcomes foreigners and is experienced with foreigners' needs. Its staff must speak fluent English.

3. Figure out how the banking fees will affect your account's holdings.

Crunch the numbers and find out what your net profit (or loss) might be.

4. Consult a domestic tax attorney, so you can figure out all the reporting requirements for a U.S. citizen, and about any additional taxes.

5. Call an offshore banking professional, who can help you set up your bank account.

6. Visit your bank personally. Bring all the necessary documentation (such as your positive identification, a passport and/or birth certificate, business and personal references, and a home country utility bill in your name). Get to know your banking contact. Have your questions ready when you meet them.

7. Find out about what accounts they have available and make sure you choose the best one to meet your needs.

8. When you're finally ready to move your assets offshore, the easiest way is to wire your assets to your chosen bank. Don't bother carrying cash offshore, or try to avoid the US$10,000 cash limit by breaking it into smaller accounts (that's a crime known as structuring).

This may sound like a lot of work, but in the end it's definitely worth it.

Also, if you're ready to take this first step, having a qualified consultant can make all the difference in the world. All members of The Sovereign Society can login in to our "Council of Experts" on our homepage at www.sovereignsociety.com www.sovereignsociety.com , for our list of recommended banking experts.

In Wealth & Prosperity,



Here is a brief overview of MY CONCEPT:

Once I receive my package and I CAREFULLY review each and every document, I certainly will have a better understanding of what I am dealing with. At that point I can make a FIRM decision on EXACTLY WHAT I WILL DO, BASED ON WHAT I RECEIVE. I WILL NOT MAKE ANY HARD DECISIONS UNTIL I SEE WHAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH.

I can tell you this: If I am presented with a Check or Debit Card drawn on a Bank here, let's use Bank of America as an example; I WILL USE THAT CARD/CHECK HERE. I WILL NOT take that card/check elsewhere or offshore to use it. That would make NO SENSE. The money we are going to receive will be from BOTH offshore and onshore. The Money that is here I will use here. The money that is elsewhere, I will use elsewhere and then move it to yet other locations. I will NOT leave my eggs in one basket. I will disperse my eggs into many baskets; Trusts, Foundations and Corporations.

Some of which I have currently set up and others that will NEED TO BE SET UP. It makes no sense to TRY to move something that is HERE out of here.

In my opinion, based on my knowledge , that would cause a RED FLAG to go up. Something I WISH TO AVOID. I like the color RED....and I LIKE FLAGS.....Just not RED FLAGS on ME or my accounts. The ON shore portion of these funds is reported to be a small portion of the whole picture.

Should I be taxed or stand to loose a portion of the small part,

FINE!, I have no problem with that. As the larger, most important

portion is NOT HERE, I can then manage that portion from wherever I

decide to mange it, be that Panama, Latvia, Switzerland, the

Caribbean or wherever.

******KEEP IN MIND******

The information contained in this email and other emails you get,

may or may not pertain to the program/programs YOU are in.

Each program has its own parameters, its own set of circumstances,

its own nuances to follow. YOUR PROGRAM may or may not have 2 sides, Onshore and Offshore.

MY suggestion is READ THE PAPERWORK. WORK TOGETHER WITH

PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF DIRECTING YOU PROPERLY. DO NOT RELY ON NON PROFESSIONALS FOR ADVICE. YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY and NEIGHBORS MAY NOT HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU. THEY MAY CAUSE YOU HEADACHES AND HEARTACHES IN THE LONG RUN.

Keep in mind also, as you are one of 336,000 +/- people involved, WE

ALL may be on a DO NOT TRAVEL/FLY list. WE MAY ALL be forced to do the preliminary banking here and THEN have the luxury of going

elsewhere for the rest of it.

I am not asking or demanding each of you to believe any of the

information in this email. I am only asking that you are receptive

to the information and make your own decisions. Base those

decisions on what YOU receive and what your Heart and Mind tells you is the RIGHT THING to do.

DO NOT RUSH INTO ANYTHING FOR ANY REASON.

I have said for 10 years, it might be wise to wait until the dust

settles before making any BIG decisions.



Certainly USE A PROFESSIONAL to assist you in the decision making process. We may all find that over a short period of time, after the initial deliveries, that changes will take place.

CHANGES THAT MAY AFFECT HOW YOU BANK AND WHERE YOU BANK IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.

On to DELIVERY:

I do not know "WHEN". I do not know "HOW it's coming" and I do not

have any particulars on any of the delivery modes. I do know we are

ONCE AGAIN CLOSE to a grand outcome. I do know that there has been MUCH, MUCH interference along the way for one reason or another. Most can be attributed to the same "gang of thugs".



The Gang members just do not want anyone to prosper, to be happy and to move forward. They, as with any "gang" want to be the controlling force of EVERYTHING in our lives. They, have had the ability to issue "STOP ON A DIME"; orders out at any time.

They have done it successfully in the past months and years, by use

of one ploy or another, one excuse or another. One more "roll", one

more signature, one more set of paperwork, one more Value Date, one more contract, one more excuse.



Personally, it is my opinion, that we will NOT know the time, the delivery method or the Date.

IT WILL JUST SHOW UP.

Be ready to make firms decisions. Be ready to do what ever you HAVE TO DO.

Be ready to meet with Professionals to Direct you properly for your

specific needs and conditions.

BE READY. it appears to be soon!

Father, I ask you to bless my friends, relatives and associates.

Show them a new revelation of your love and power.

I DECLARE IT WILL BE SINCERELY G-R-E-A-T IN 2008!![/b][color=darkblue][/color]

dr. ira gilac said...

jsut missed my last post by one minute @ 7:01



as even juginns nose, that was a perfect post...

and as sloop yooze to say, that in da babel, 7 is the nimber o prefection... ;-)

dr. ira gilac said...

The IRS will be gone by the time we access our funds. I was very happy to hear some of my contacts (who have been debating this issue with me for months) finally say last week that they are hearing the IRS "demise" is "imminent".






DROOLO as in LOOLO!!!!

notorial dissent said...

Moogs, the only thing I am less likely to take seriously than your pronouncements on real estate, the law, finance, banking, or reality in general, would be anything you or Kurt had to say about religion or faith.

mogel007 said...

Two more banks bite the dust
on Friday. Still 90 bank institutions are
on the FDIC troubled banking list:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
20080726/bs_nm/banks_fdic_dc

near the end said...

It seems ND and Nemo's whole life is about this Blog. Can you say LOSER's

mogel007 said...

Dr. Ira: The article you posted says that the IRS will be eradicated when the "abundance package" arrives, yet later in the article it says,
FINCEN, AMERICAN EXPRESS AND MASTER CARD AND PROBABLY VISA NOTIFY IRS OF OFFSHORE TRANSACTIONS. An apparent contradiction to me. Later the article talks about living under "constitutional law" when your abundance package arrives. LOL

Also the premise that the banking system has been completely revamped into a system owned by the US Treasury out of the control of the Federal Reserve is also hard to believe at this point.

The talk of "white knights" makes me think this article came from "Dove of Oneness", who is proven to be a non prophet & ill advised on many things, since almost all if not all of her predictions & time table events, turn out to be total nonsense.

The major premise & problem I have with these "packages of wealth" coming is that it makes no sense in the real world. For a small investment made by any of 336,000 people, we are to believe that this will generate a 7 figure blessing of 10 Million plus? No, it doesn't work that way in the real world.

The advise on offshore banking & preparations of a windfall was interesting & informative to read however, course believers of this aren't grounded in the real world anyway. They would rather believe in a fantasy rather than work for their wealth.

mogel007 said...

Moogs, the ONLY THING I am less likely to take seriously than your pronouncements on real estate, the law, finance, banking, or reality in general, WOULD BE ANYTHING you or Kurt had to say about religion or faith.
___________________________________

Sorry religion & faith are TWO THINGS, not one thing. My pronouncements? If the credibility or lack of credibility is about me, why are you bringing Kurt into the mix? LOL

Course if you are talking about one thing, and then want to include ANYTHING, than that about sums up your nonsense doesn't it?

I quote a Supreme Court case to justify a position on "mail fraud" that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, and than you make it all about me? That is not only unfair, but is prejudice at it's finest.

dr. ira gilac said...

beans, yo alays try to twis all the facts and put limits on them....just like dims do...weel, the fax dont have limits on them...it plain and simple.... DHL

dr. ira gilac said...

For a small investment made by any of 336,000 people, we are to believe that this will generate a 7 figure blessing of 10 Million plus? No, it doesn't work that way in the real world.






sho it do....burly bowl say so.....

dr. ira gilac said...

Dr. Ira: The article you posted says that the IRS will be eradicated when the "abundance package" arrives, yet later in the article it says,
FINCEN, AMERICAN EXPRESS AND MASTER CARD AND PROBABLY VISA NOTIFY IRS OF OFFSHORE TRANSACTIONS. An apparent contradiction to me...




the contraction appers because it is quoting from 2 diffnint sauces there...red gravy and bron....


one is from the writer an da other is fum the severance socrates.....

dr. ira gilac said...

like burly bowl say:


On to DELIVERY:

I do not know "WHEN". I do not know "HOW it's coming" and I do not

have any particulars on any of the delivery modes. I do know we are

ONCE AGAIN CLOSE to a grand outcome.

IT WILL JUST SHOW UP.




so yo watin an watin and nobody say nothing, then like the sawng say, all sudden: POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!

rember dat sawng?


POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!

POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!

POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!




dat meen to go get towel...a bird just sh*t on yo hed....

dr. ira gilac said...

only jimmy no one tell yo whan a byrd gonna sh*t on yo hed, so same here...teh pack itch cums sayme way....jus like the bird....a BERRY BIG YELLOW BIRD....DHL!

dr. ira gilac said...

POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!

POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!

POOP!! THEY IT IS!!!




dat meen to go get towel...a bird just sh*t on yo hed....









den, if yo dunno the color of bird sh*t, yo fine out dat the color of brid sh*t is GREEN!!

dr. ira gilac said...

nly jimmy no one tell yo whan a byrd gonna sh*t on yo hed,






ya, dat jimmy noone, he no a lot of thins....only bad thins wit him is, sutims he spell his name difnintly....sometims he spell it noone an unce in a whil, he speel it no one......same diffnince tho.....they da same prison....

TheWill said...

Well time to continue packing. I lasted this long in the wilderness of trying to win this criminal battle that our government and the courts have perpetrated on the sovereign.

Neo and the rest will not be exempted from this tyranny that is becoming america. It just has not affected you yet, or you are just too blind to see anything beyond your nose.

I fought this for the past four years. The forces are too great. They lie they cheat. I am tired now. We are overrun due to the ignorant staying ignorant and wanting to be ignorant about the facts.

I did have some hope that america might be saved, with the Impeachment hearings being conducted in the House of Reps. But unless you all stand up and stand up soon. This country will die. No one on this blog is safe from what is to come and I don't care what area of living that you think you're involved in. We are all expendable, our sovereignty will be dead and the constitution of this country is on a clock and at 12 it will be over. It is about 10 now. Get ready for impact.

I fought my best fight, I think. The lack of support and the nature of the beast might have one the battle against me. No it is not over.

Every document that I filed is still on the books. UCC1's the whole nine yards. I have just received a 5 day notice to vacate and I will be here on that fifth day.

With all this happening, I still KNOW that we are right! The ignorance of the masses will allow destruction of this country!

mogel007 said...

Dr. Ira says: "sho it do....burly bowl say so....."
_____________________________

Berry Ball is a very likeable guy, with charizma, & a sincere & religious person, but history has shown that 95% of his suggestions turn out to be proven scams. His position is: if you invest in enough programs, a few will pan out, however, his net worth or cash flow is not something you would set up as a high standard to become. Most of his income comes from referral income. The State of Washington dinged him real good when they prosecuted him for peddling all of his ponzi schemes he had advertized & he had to repay back a large sum of money to his client/referrals, that financially set him back for a very long time. He has gotten a little more particular about what he sells & advertises, but most of it still remains to be garbage & not worth the risk/reward ratio. He ended up moving to Mexico getting tired of the government harassment. His greatest achievement is marrying a beautiful Russian lady through a mail order website. In my opinion, his belief in these packages coming are on the same level as his belief in the lizard/alien reptiles that currently live on this earth.

dr. ira gilac said...

We are all expendable, our sovereignty will be dead and the constitution of this country is on a clock and at 12 it will be over. It is about 10 now.





LOOL! yo beffa chck yo cloak....it a little slo.....it mo like 11,59:59.9 pm.....sinta cause be cummin' soon...an he like beans....he yooze a raincoat....

dr. ira gilac said...

intasting stuff hay...maybe beans can lern sumting about his statues dat he trow ppl in jail fo....






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dr. ira gilac said...

He ended up moving to Mexico getting tired of the government harassment.



mabye soon we all gaona haf ta x cape the harshment from baeans criminal govt...



maybe we can all gothere and farm hello penos???

i hay dat dair is a make it fo dem.....


burly, yo got an xtra woom fo me dair??.....


oh, an yes, i here he got a nich loofing wif....

dr. ira gilac said...

Due to this all criminal prosecutions, both State and Federal, are groundless, and courts are without subject matter jurisdiction to render judgment.




so juggins, if all yo "lays" are really statues, then ho cum theres ova 1 millon ppl in poisin???


tell he, ho yo do this???

ink wired mines wanna no?

dr. ira gilac said...

Due to this all criminal prosecutions, both State and Federal, are groundless, and courts are without subject matter jurisdiction to render judgment.



ya, juggins...splain this to me....


if you walk into a coatroom an tell the dishonest juge that all his disions are full of sh*t and dont meen sh*t, then wha hoppens next???


he gonna trow yo in person???

dr. ira gilac said...

juggins, yo out!!!





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mogel007 said...

Dr. Ira says: On to DELIVERY:

I do not know "WHEN". I do not know "HOW it's coming" and I do not
_________________________________

This is NOT A FINANCIAL PLAN or a plan to live by. It's like hoping for the lottery to pan out. A FINANCIAL PLAN HAS TIME LIMITS, DATES, GOALS, a strategy or method that is achievable like short term & long term goals that are believable, ETC. These ideas of ignorance as to not knowing "when" is similiar to a gamblers mentality. Gamblers almost always lose in the long term and in the short term they are deceived. They are always hoping for the large payout in the future that they certainly believe & hope that is coming, so they feel no need for long term financial planning. I'm not opposed to risk taking, but the risks must make sense to take & there has to be a plan or strategy that is financially sound & workable.

Kind of funny that "deliveries" have been expected now for over 10 years. Now the latest prediction is "it will be great in 2008". Kind of a contradiction to say you don't know "when", when the article says IT'S HAPPENING
IN 2008, or at least that is the sales pitch now.

What about the prediction LONG TIME PAST NOW, that all government senators, congressmen, & even the President WERE BEING FORCED TO STEP DOWN due to Nesarra?

It's seems the more outrageous the promise, & the bigger the lie, the more apt people are to jump on it, grasp it & believe it with their hearts.

The outrageous lie that the Germans were the supreme race worked really well for Hitler.

mogel007 said...

Will said: "The lack of support and the nature of the beast might have WON the battle against me."
_______________________________
Nature of the beast? Is evil stronger than good? Apparently Lucifer thought so, when "the war in heaven" took place and 1/3 of the Spirits were cast out, by God's decree, including Satan, who was called Lucifer, the angel light of the morning who obviously had a very high position of power at one time. Some argue he still has alot of power. Maybe Lucifer SINCERELY thought & BELIEVED if he could get a majority on his side, he could overtake God & take away his throne & set up his own rule differently & run things quite differently? Course he only obtained a third; God still had the majority on his side, at the time Lucifer was cast out of heaven & God STILL DOES have a majority that supports him, maybe not in this world, but this world isn't the only world in the Universe of God's creations. Course losing 1/3 of the "stars in heaven" or the "spirits in heaven" to evil, WAS DEFINITELY A LARGE DEFEAT, but it still was only 1 spiritual battle. They'll be many spiritual battles to fight.

Just gets some hard money set up & buy your house back at the auction/sale & move back in. Or maybe you missed that windown of opportunity already? Or buy the house back from the new owner/lender through creative financing techniques. You can probably get it back at a discount in today's real estate market. Then, it's only a partial victory for the beast, however, it's still only a house. You'll probably find a bigger & better one down the road if you decide to move out of the one you are in.

How about that Mr. Brown case where the guy refused to move out & mr. Brown refused to leave even if he had to fight like his house was the Alamo or Custard's last stand? Did he ever lose his house? I haven't kept up with that so I don't really know what happened there. Maybe the Sheriff dept. didn't want to risk any bloodshed & allowed him to stay rather than forcibly evicting him? The actor who played Crocidile Dundee is fighting the IRS or the Australian equivalent of that. He tells them he has a gun & he isn't afraid to use it. If they think he's crazy, maybe they'll leave him alone?

Maybe you can file a TILA complaint in Federal Court against the lender & MAKE THEM PAY IN THE LONG TERM for their bad behaviour. The lender made mistakes & committed violations of law. That's a given. Those mistakes don't go away, unless there is a statute of limitations that has passed. TILA lawsuits have been quite successful for most or actually the lender comes to the settling table, but one can't expect that.

You say you filed UCC documents. The Freedom Club believes that you can't file the original documents & filing those is a fatal flaw, but you need to keep the originals yourself without filing them in order to do things right. Kind of hard to really know for sure since they haven't had any financial success yet.

notorial dissent said...

Moogies mouth is still running, but his brain is on vacation
Sorry religion & faith are TWO THINGS, not one thing. My pronouncements? If the credibility or lack of credibility is about me, why are you bringing Kurt into the mix? LOL

Still grammatically as well as morally and ethically challenged I see.

The sockpuppet echoes the master. The lies of the master become the lies of the student, which you have so consistently shown.


still on vacation
I quote a Supreme Court case to justify a position on "mail fraud" that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, and than you make it all about me? That is not only unfair, but is prejudice at it's finest.

You have presented not one thing to contradict not only what I, but a very competent practicing attorney, and the courts have said. The only thing you have shown is your inability to read plain English. Your inability to actually read and comprehend is not a valid stand in a court of law. Your are free to interpret or misinterpret the law as you see fit, however, the court’s opinion holds sway and they have been disagreeing with you for a good long time, like since the mail fraud statutes were inacted. The fact that I think you are a fool and dupe is amply supported by your long list of actions, so I would hardly call it prejudice. You have repeatedly proven yourself to be a morally and ethically challenged fool, so don’t get your knickers in a twist when I point out the obvious to you. Actually, please feel free to throw whatever temper tantrum that lights your fire. The only thing I can think of funnier than you generally, is your attempting a fit of righteous indignation at being caught out.

Funnier still than you trying so valiantly to justify the actions of a twice convicted liar, fraud, and general hypocrite, is you arguing with the resident idiot and gibberish generator about a nonexistent law for a nonexistent prosperity program run by an even cheaper con artist living in a trailer park. That Moogs is the definition of truly pathetic.

neodemes said...

hey, thewill, I'm sorry to hear that you have lost your home, I truly am.

One thing is for sure, heed no advice from the moogster. The guy needs a glass navel to navigate, if you catch my drift.

Good luck.

-------------------------------------

moogie, your still yammering religious nonsense I see.

Speaking of which, in regard to that little discussion we were having about marriage in heaven and your insistence on binding contracts, etc.

Chew on this...

Romans 7

1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: "The only thing I can think of funnier than YOU generally, is YOUR attempting a fit of righteous indignation at being caught out.
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Speaking of understanding basic English, didn't you mean to imply that both scenarios are still talking about me: The real me, & the false me or "you & your", or talking about the same person? How can I be funnier than myself?

Do you mean "found out", or "caught out?" I can't understand something that makes no sense, I truly admit.

"First try to understand YOURSELF & than YOU will be understood." And that's no joke. LOL

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent said: Funnier still than you trying so valiantly to justify the actions of a twice CONVICTED LIAR, fraud, and general hypocrite,..."
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Where is this case that I can read about this conviction of lying or perjury? I didn't realize that "hypocrisy" was something that you could be convicted of.

How does one VALIANTLY justify a fraud? Isn't that a contradiction in terms or definition? Unless of course, you believe there is a moral basis to defend the Dorean Group?

If I am a fool, I can't VALIANTLY accomplish or defend anything. There's NO VALOR in evil or fraud, and you assume anything associated with the Dorean Group is synonomous with fraud & hypocrisy, so valiancy is not a word I would use, unless you are purposely trying to be foolish.

Maybe your own English and choice of words needs some work, you think?

mogel007 said...

Nemo quotes: Romans 7

1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

4:19 PM
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Man's law of marriage ends at death: "Until death do you part." is in most marriage cermonies I've ever heard or seen.
However, this is not God's way or his law.

If a man dies, a woman is still free to marry "for time only", but if a woman is married to her husband "for time & all eternity", done by the power of the Lord & with his approval & seal, that contract supercedes any other earthly contract of marriage & will still be effective in the next life & will endure forever.

Women in Jesus's time were not permitted to marry again if the husband was still alive, otherwise, they were treated by the law as "adulterers". That was the law of that day.

Nemo, you still don't know the difference between the laws of man & the laws of God. Apparently that's so IF YOU ARE QUOTING THIS SCRIPTURE.

4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that YE SHOULD BE MARRIED TO ANOTHER, EVEN TO HIM, who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

WE CAN BE MARRIED OR SEALED TO GOD THROUGH THE PATRIARCHAL ORDER IF DONE UNDER HIS POWER & AUTHORITY TOO. That type of intimacy, trust & fidelity in a healthy marital relationship should also exist in our relationship to God. The laws & contracts of man are dead in the eternal scheme of things due to the higher & eternally binding laws of Christ. IN THE NEXT LIFE WE ARE NOT BOUND BY EARTHLY LAWS. THE SCRIPTURES ARE CLEAR & PLAIN: "WHAT IS BOUND ON EARTH, "IN THE LORD" OR BY THE POWER & AUTHORITY OF THE LORD, SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN." Jesus gave this same power to bind in heaven to his 12 apostles, the Lord's agents.

Whatever is done WITHOUT THE LORD'S APPROVAL, power or authority here on earth, whether it is marriage contract, or any other contract, it is dead & dissolved & of no efficacy after death.

"Neither is the man without the woman, IN THE LORD." I quoted a dozen scriptures or more to show that point, & you didn't bother to refute any of them I listed & probably didn't even read all of them I listed.

Nemo, stop trying to find things in the scriptures that don't exist or fit your own speculation or your own personal views.

A dozen scriptures saying otherwise, still trumps one scripture that you twist & pervert to be something it is not saying.

mogel007 said...

Nemo: Looking at the top of the page of Romans 7 I see a summary of this chapter entitled: BELIEVERS ARE DEAD TO THE LAW.

So Nemo, what law do you think that chapter is talking about? Certainly it couldn't be the law of God, because they are believers, so it must be the law of man or the law of sin.

Verse 25 says: "I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh, THE LAW OF SIN."

So let's insert "the law of sin" or the laws of this world in verse 4 to understand this verse clearer:

"Wherefore, my bretheren, (BELIEVERS) ye also are become dead to the LAW OF SIN, by the body of christ, THAT YE SHOULD BE MARRIED TO ANOTHER, even to him, who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."

Sin or false beliefs about the marriage doctrine doesn't bring any fruit to God, would you agree?

What's that expression: The fruit DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE? If God is the tree, or the tree of life, & his children are the fruit of that tree, how does one increase that fruit? By a God & everyone in heaven being celibut forever without the right or power of procreation? LOL

How does God increase his kingdom? By birth control, celibacy, or singleness with no eternal offspring in the next life? Apparently that's what you believe.

Romans Chapt. 8 goes on to talk about the family in Heaven: Romans 8: 14-18.
A family is not a unit of just single people. If God is our Spirit father, there must be a Spirit Mother in Heaven too. Is there ever a Son without a Father, is there a father without a mother? Is there ever a father without a son or daughter? If there is children, isn't that a family? If there is a family & if believers are heirs of great glory, by what right to we have to claim this? Rights of heirs only come through families linked together.

What is a birthright? Does that come from being a bastard without a marriage & without knowledge or existence of a father or mother?

notorial dissent said...

Moogies mouth is moving again, still nothing of significance coming out
Where is this case that I can read about this conviction of lying or perjury? I didn't realize that "hypocrisy" was something that you could be convicted of.

While I am sure you are making every attempt to forget it, the fact remains that Kurt has been twice convicted of fraud, and fraud by its very nature is based on lies, either of omission or commission, there is no conflict. They hypocrisy is just the ongoing pseudo religious mouthings of a liar and a fraud.

The rest of your nonsense is just general tediousness.

neodemes said...

moogs, moogs, moogs

Of course its talking about the Law of God - the only differences are from the perspective of the spirit or from the flesh.

It is by the law that the flesh is condemned but in the spirit there is no condemnation in Christ.

You do, of course, realize that verse four is speaking of the relationship of believers to Christ in terms of a marital relationship...Christ, groom, believers, bride...please tell me you got the analogy.

Where do you find "for time & all eternity"?

You sure read a lot into was isn't there...no surprise, that.

The only mother of God the Bible speaks of is Mary, btw.

If you expect to be boinkin' in heaven, you will be disappointed.

Rave on, moogs.

dr. ira gilac said...

if you expect to be boinkin'





bonkin? wha dat????

O+-^-/

near the end said...

Lets play who has the highest monthly mortgage payment.

I bet I'll when with $ 4,112.34.

dr. ira gilac said...

*** Breaking News!

E-Gold Founder Pleads Guilty to Money Laundering


Douglas Jackson, the founder and director of the online payment service
e-Gold and its parent company Gold & Silver Reserve, has ended a
two-and-a-half-year battle with the Justice Department and pleaded
guilty to charges pertaining to money laundering and operating an
unlicensed money transmitting business. He faces up to 20 years in
prison on the money-laundering charge and up to 5 years in prison
on the licensing charge.

Jackson was indicted in April 2007, following a December 2005 Secret
Service raid on his company's offices in Melbourne, Florida.

He and two other senior e-Gold directors, who also pleaded guilty to
operating an unlicensed money transmitting business, have also agreed
to introduce user restrictions on e-Gold and to revamp the system to
make it easier to detect money-laundering activities, fixing some design
flaws that Jackson acknowledges allowed criminals to use the system for
illegal purposes. The company has currently suspended the opening of new
accounts.

The move marks a turnaround for Jackson, who has long maintained his
innocence in a fight that he estimates has cost him in the "seven figures."
He told Threat Level in an e-mail that rather than drag out the case, he opted
to resolve it in a manner that allowed e-Gold to move forward and shake off
its reputation as being a haven for criminals.

"From our perspective, the possibility of resolving the legal case in a manner
that allows for a path forward, that provides an explicit roadmap enabling e-Gold
to emerge as a regulated financial institution in full compliance with US law is
greatly preferred over continued conflict," he wrote. "We acknowledge that we
made mistakes and fully accept responsibility for those mistakes. Our goal
throughout these recent negotiations was to set the stage for e-Gold to get a
second chance and to get it right this time, to emerge as an institution that can
become an integral and vital part of the financial and commercial mainstream."

E-gold is a privately issued digital currency backed by real gold and silver stored
in banks in Europe and Dubai. Jackson, a former oncology doctor, launched the
digital cash service in 1996 with a partner. At its height, the service had about
1,000 new e-Gold accounts opening daily, and processed between 50,000 and
100,000 transactions a day. That changed in the years since the government's
raid.

"All e-Gold in circulation remains 100 percent backed by physical gold," Jackson
wrote. But "there has been a substantial decline in transaction volume over the
past two years."

The government claimed that e-Gold facilitated child pornography and identity
theft by allowing criminals to pay for illegal images and launder other funds
gained through credit card fraud and other crimes. The government had initially
accused Jackson and e-Gold of aiding terrorists, but dropped that claim.

Back in 2006, Jackson called the charges a farce and described all of the ways
in which the company tracked criminal behavior in its system. He also discussed
how the company repeatedly helped the U.S. Postal Service and other federal
agencies track child pornographers and credit card thieves who sent money
through the service and even established undercover accounts for law-enforcement
agents to help them ensnare crooks. He had dismissed the idea that Gold & Silver
was an unlicensed money-transmitting business at the time, since he said the
company never accepted cash from customers, only wire transfers.

Jackson now says he has high hopes that the new e-Gold that emerges after
they've implemented the required changes will attract new customers that
previously stayed away because of the perception that e-Gold was favored by
criminals.

"From its beginning in 1996, e-Gold has been regarded with skepticism and
reflexive mistrust," he wrote Threat Level. "E-Gold as an explicitly regulated
financial institution however is a whole new ball game. . . . Very importantly,
the e-Gold that will emerge from this turbulence will be a community that does
not tolerate criminal abuse and maintains highly effective defenses to detect
and interdict such abuse."

Sentencing is set for November.

In addition to possible jail time, Jackson faces a possible fine of up to $500,000
for money laundering and $250,000 for operating an unlicensed business. Jackson
told me last year, however, that a high-level U.S. attorney had told him privately,
"We know you guys aren't bad guys, and the last thing we want is for anyone to
go to jail. We don't want the company to fail we just want you to clean up your act."

dr. ira gilac said...

that rather than drag out the case, he opted
to resolve it in a manner that allowed e-Gold to move forward







splain dis to me...now ho yo gonna move forward and run e-gold by takin a plea????/


wha??? yo gonna run egole from the can???

ho yo gnna do dat???

day gonna give yo computer servers there????


yo crazee....i dun unterstan if yo in the can 20 yers, ho yo gonna run egole???


i goota ask burlee bowl about dis?????


now my HYPS never gong to pay out, they were all in e-glod.....sh*t!


bawls was rite...shudda swith to ebullin.....

near the end said...

It's funny how judge roy told everyone on this blog you have to go to the justice dept. to get your house back in your name.

Six months ago my sister got her quitclaim deed back from Dr. Fred. It took only 10 days to get it back once she mailed it.

She closed on the sale of her house last Friday with NO PROBLEMS.

Guess judge roy is giving bad advice here.

Judge roy; Please if you don't no what your talking about please please don't give advice here your going to end up costing people alot of wasted time and money.

near the end said...

It's funny how judge roy told everyone on this blog you have to go to the justice dept. to get your house back in your name.

Six months ago my sister got her quitclaim deed back from Dr. Fred. It took only 10 days to get it back once she mailed it.

She closed on the sale of her house last Friday with NO PROBLEMS.

Guess judge roy is giving bad advice here.

Judge roy; Please if you don't no what your talking about please please don't give advice here your going to end up costing people alot of wasted time and money.

judge allslop said...

Near the end. What state was this property located?

mogel007 said...

Near the End said: Lets play who has the highest monthly mortgage payment.

I bet I'll (Win?) with $ 4,112.34.
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What is your home worth?

mogel007 said...

Dr. Ira: splain dis to me...now ho yo gonna move forward and run e-gold by takin a plea????/
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I bet he gets little to no jail time. The prosecution got what they wanted to be able to regulate & reform his business. He'll probably have to get his egold business licensed too. With this license he'll be regulated so the government can keep track of all transactions. The sad thing is the owner probably knew nothing about the pornography & money laundering going on.

mogel007 said...

Nemo: Of course its talking about the Law of God - the only differences are from the perspective of the spirit or from the flesh.
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OK, I re-read Rom chapt. 7 again & conclude that "the Law" is the Law of Moses, which was the rules, the rites, & ordinances, given to Moses's people & for Old Testament times which became dead to New Testament times & beyond for believers. Verse 6 & 7 make it clear what the law is.

Christ life & mission fulfilled the law of Moses completely. That law was honored & fulfilled by Christ's mission & life. If a contract is fulfilled it is not changed or violated as you inferred.

After Christ's atonement & resurrection, the Law of Moses was no longer needed. The Law of Moses was a schoolmaster to bring people to Christ.

As the synposis said at the top of the page: "BELIEVERS ARE DEAD TO THE LAW" or believers are dead to the Law of Moses. The law was dead & no longer needed, but it was fulfilled completely.

Romans 7: 4 DOES NOT SAY THAT MARRIAGE WAS ANNULLED, NO LONGER EXISTED OR DEAD IN THE NEW OR NEXT LIFE. People in New Testament times still married, so what am I suppose to "chew upon?" I still don't see your point.

Roman 8:2 says: "For the law of the Spirit or life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the LAW OF SIN AND DEATH."

mogel007 said...

Nemo said: "If you expect to be boinkin' in heaven, you will be disappointed."
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Oh really? Have you been to heaven yourself? Read Luke 1: 39

"Power of the HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW THEE" Can't get any more tactful or any clearer than that.

Virgin birth? Since Mary didn't have sex with a mortal man, but an EXALTED BEING, so technically, it's still a virgin birth. She didn't lie down with a mortal man. Immortal exalted beings like God the Father, aren't a mortal man. What God the Father does is morally right by definition, yet God the Father, is referred to as "Man of holiness" & a hundred under names & titles. God is a man, but he is a glorified, resurrected, & perfected Man. We were created in his image & likeness & he has a body, has parts, & has passions & he is a personal Being which many holy prophets have beheld & seen. His sex is male.

How is Jesus LITERALLY the Son of God, if God the Father, didn't have sex with Mary? If there is no sex in heaven, than God the Father wouldn't obviously be participating in it, whether in heaven or upon this earth.


What does it mean WHEN THE SCRIPTURES SAY Jesus to be the "ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER IN THE FLESH" if we aren't talking about a sex act & a DIRECT LINEAGE OF GENES?

What does it mean to be the "Firstborn in the Spirit" if we aren't talking about sex or a birth & what is this all referring to then, & what do these titles mean? Have you heard the phrase: "Church of the Firstborn"?

Psalsm 82: 6

"I have said, "Ye are gods, and ALL OF YOU ARE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH."

Where do children come from if it's not from the sex act?

Sorry, it's not very clear to you who happens to also be a married man.

mogel007 said...

Job 1: 6

"Now there was a day when the SONS OF GOD came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them."

When was this day? It was long BEFORE the earth was evem formed & long before even Adam, the first man came upon the scene on this earth. See Job 38: 1-7.

Now if there were sons of God, or Spirits who had a relationship with God, where did they come from? Sons come from a Father & a Mother, however, if they were Spirits, since the earth hadn't even been formed yet, who was the Mother of those Spirits? If there were a Mother of Spirits too, would it be unlikely that God was not married to her? After all, it was God that gave the marriage commandment & covenant to his children. Would He, "the lawgiver", give a commandment that he doesn't follow himself?

If God was married to Heavenly Mother, why wouldn't there be sex? Nemo, If there was sex before the earth was formed, SINCE THERE WERE SONS OF GOD THERE IN THAT REALM, why is it unreasonable to say there will be sex in the resurrected world in heaven?

Maybe you will be disappointed because you might be neutered or fixed in the next life!!
After all, there is a carma that gives people what they want or expect.

mogel007 said...

Notarial Dissent: I understand that you keep harping on the fact that Kurt has been convicted of fraud 2 times, (SECURITIES FRAUD & MAIL FRAUD) however, in all fairness from his point of view & BELIEF, he still maintains he was convicted wrongfully both times. Pertaining to the 1st conviction he says:

"I didn't mind doing the time (5yrs. 8mon.) for a crime I DIDN'T COMMIT, but I did mind the hypocrisy of the mortgage industry doing everyday what the government convicted me of."

If the mortgage industry can do it, & get away with it, why should Kurt be put down AFTER SPENDING TIME & BEING PUNISHED?

near the end said...

$ 900,000

neodemes said...

Moogs,

We must have entirely different Bibles.

Does your copy only have vs 6?
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moogie said:

Job 1: 6

"Now there was a day when the SONS OF GOD came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them."

When was this day? It was long BEFORE the earth was evem formed & long before even Adam, the first man came upon the scene on this earth. See Job 38: 1-7.

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Did you stop reading, or what?


7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

mogel007 said...

Nemo: The two chapters go in & out of real time. However, in Job 38: 6, where was Job WHEN ALL THE SONS OF God shouted for joy, when God created the world, which was long before there was a man on earth? Job 38: 26

What was God saying in Job 38: 21 when he said that "the number of Job's days WERE GREAT?"

Nemo, I ask the same question God asked Job: "Where was Job or even you, when God laid the foundations of the earth? declare if you hast understanding"?

Job 38: 2 "Who is this that darkeneth counsel BY WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?" LOL

mogel007 said...

Nemo: If we are the OFFSPRING OF GOD, WE ALL EXISTED BEFORE BIRTH IN THIS MORTAL WORLD including Job as Spirit personages. As a matter of fact, our BOUNDS & HABITATION was pretermined by God: See
Acts 17: 24-29

Offspring can not mean anything more than a decendant of God through direct lineage.

How can we RETURN TO GOD, if we didn't come from God or once lived with God before birth?
"We all return to the God that gave us life."

If you don't understand your "roots", you can't really understand your "destiny" either.

neodemes said...

Oy.

notorial dissent said...

and Moogie makes another funny
....in all fairness from his point of view & BELIEF, he still maintains he was convicted wrongfully both times.

And Ted Bundy thought he was just a misunderstood serial dater. Kurt is free, like you, to believe any stupid and irrational thing he wants to, but your joint delusions aside, the facts say otherwise. Kurt can, like you, come up with all the self serving justifications he wants to, but they do not alter the fact that two separate juries disagreed whole heartedly with his delusions, and he has twice been convicted of fraud. And, since you are once again arguing apples and pears, the rest of your attempt at weaseling is just that.