Monday, November 16, 2009

Potiphar's Rebuke (9-17-09)

Joseph was one of the scriptural types of Christ. He was rejected by his brethren, mocked and ridiculed for the promises of God over him. Made to oversee the kingdom. Humbled to be made great. Husband to a gentile. Proof God's word is infallible, etc. Genesis chapter 39 introduces a character into Joseph's life named Potiphar. Potiphar in verses 1-6 comes to an understanding that is an honest rebuke to all of us. Joseph is a type but minuscule in actual comparison to the original. Yet in verse 6 Potiphar was so content with Joseph's administration of his affairs that he had literally no worry or concern.

The administration of Christ over our affairs has to be infinitely superior to that of Joseph yet we never put away our worry or our concern. Potiphar could rest in his faith of Joseph and we constantly withdraw our trust. Christ is not slack and could never be proven so. In fact He can perform every function quantifiably better. What justification authenticates our fears? Shame on us when this heathen man could see the anointing of God upon his servant and we remain blind to God's anointing upon His son.

Losing your house, losing your job, losing your reputation, losing at trial, losing your friends, you are not the first. Habakkuk 3:17-19 reiterates how much more we should exceed Potiphar. God is our strength. Our supply, our hope, our dutiful and gracious Lord. I will trust Him!

141 comments:

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sopsback said...

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sopsback said...

11% a day!!


a lot better than a pot of farts!!!

sopsback said...

sadly, it look like da dg is turning into a 'pot of farts'


the blaaagh has now turn into relgious blaaagh nothing to do with mortage elmation.

theres seeem to be noone left to foolow the blaaagh anymo.


it all gone now....


even jug beans went unda...

sopsback said...

i now haf to say that the dg has failed in its mission.

sad, but true.

i will also say that i dont put any blame on kurt, or scott or dr. fred.


i really beleieve that they tried their best but it just wasnt good enuf.

i just think that they understimated the evil that they were gong against.


from a reality point of view, it may or may not eventually payout.

howver, given the extremely long period of time that has passed, i think that for the avg. person that joined the dg, it must be considered a failure.

these ppl have all lost their house by now unless they had enuf money to carry them all these years

but then if they did, then the dg was just really an investment and irrelevant to anything.

for those lucky enuf to survive until payout, then it really has become a religious work of god nohting to do with dg.

these were destined to survive with or withut the dg existing.


having said all this, i wish kurt, scott and dr. fred well and hope that it all works out well for them and that they feel that the effort was worth it.

i would be very curius to see of all those who first joined the dg how many still have their house after all these years or are even still alife??

Yetter said...

It doesn't give me any comfort that I retain my residence given the carnage in the market place, in fact it's tragic in scope.For Scott and Kurt I say your premature in announcing their burial.In fact we are just days from learning more about what the future has in store,no doubt they have had and will have to continue to fight for every inch. MORTGAGE FRAUD is not a secret any more. prevalent from inception to the global market place where conterfit bond fraud has destroyed the financial industry with toxic derivatives. Only the assholes from quatloose and morons from the goverment would deny it. I find it fascinating the official lender cannot find the mortgage and prove possession of clear registered title for the property, the homeowner cannot be displaced. In fact, the homeowner becomes a default owner!! Another court ruling has come that is favorable to embattled homeowners. THIS TIME THE DECISION COMES FROM A FEDERAL JUDGE. The very institution that put away Dorean for challenging the same facts!!! Precedent is being established for all states to follow. The USDept Treasury has sided with the big banks naturally, but hides under the 'Interested Party' role in dubious fashion. A representative of the US Trustee, a division of the USDept Justice charged with monitoring bankruptcy courts, attended the hearings. On October 9th in federal bankruptcy court in the Southern District of New York, Judge Robert Drain ruled that lender PHH Mortgage failed to prove its claim to the home of a delinquent borrower. The judge canceled the entire $461,263 mortgage debt on the property. The case is an alert to lenders that dubious proof-of-ownership tactics may no longer be accepted practice. Such practices by financial firms are on the edge of being viewed as fraud by the court. What an incredible backfire after bank bond fraud!! Give up my home.FUCK YOU I DON'T THINK SO. PROVE IT.
My suggestion to any one has lost a home or is danger of losing one. Why? Why were you here? Dorean showed us the door,we must walk through it.

Yetter said...

Details of mortgage bond fraud bear repeating. Wall Street firms sold mortgage bonds with a given individual property tied to between three and ten bonds for securitized income stream. This is bond fraud. Wall Street firms also sold mortgage bonds with mythical properties associated in income stream. Wall Street devised the MERS title database in order to facilitate rapid bond sales, to enable quick bond turnover, to confuse the matter, and to doctor the titles for homes that do not exist. Any true remedy to home loans would involve tracing back to the mortgage bonds in question, thus revealing the fraud. When a home loan's balance is reduced, the mortgage bond must be reduced in value also, thus requiring its identification. Wall Street does not want such scrutiny, and thus pushes for TOP DOWN solutions like the TARP Fund that throws billion$ into their corrupted coffers. Also, when a meaningless revolving door type of modification takes place, like with a 0.5% lower mortgage rate, or a deferred set of interest payments, or deferred late penalties, the defrauded mortgage bond holder loses all opportunity to sue in court for fraud and restitution. The bondholder rights are railroaded and ignored by the USGovt, thus covering the fraud. The motive explains the preponderance of worthless home loan modifications, and a totally acceptable foreclosure revolving door.
The following has filed briefs in state court in a foreclosure matter outlining how the markets perpetrated this crime.
Marie.McDonnell@truthinlending.net;

sopsback said...

jester said...



For Scott and Kurt I say your premature in announcing their burial.





yeter, i am not announcigng their burial.

i dont need to.


i am on their side.


nonetheless, they have not accomplished their mission.


noone knows more than i that the banks are fraudulent in lending and the money from "thin air" isuse.

still, it matters to me none, but it did/will to those who singed up with the dg.

listen, i said they may yet payout.

howver, it does no good to those whove lost their homes and were put on the street.

none of them signed up to take a college ph.d course in bankking sytem.


they took it to have theri mtg. eliminated and keep their house.

as more than enuf time has passed, you must call a spade a spade.


and it also has nothing to do with the integrity of kurt and scott and dr. fred.

i really believe that they tried and may yet win, but that is not the issue.

those whove already lost their homes did not sing up for this to lose their homes.

were they lazy??

YES.

agian, not the point.


i dont bring my car to an auto mechanic to leart ho to repair it, i bring it there to be repaired.

e.o.s.



(and i am not in the same catgory as quacklost as they are nothing more than disinfo agients


hay, good ppl fail all the time in theri mission.

it does not mean that they are a failure, just that the mission failed.

mission failure also mean that a mission was not completed on time.

and that is where they failed, the time element as i agree that finally everyone now knows about griffins book 'gilgans eyeland' and the feral reevers sytem.

sopsback said...

in fact, from reading the blog entries, i dont beleive that they are arrogant ppl

so given this, i beleive that even kurt, dr. fred, et al would readily admit that they failed in the original mission because of the time element which did not save ppls houses before they went broke.


even if these ppl got $10 million now, but they didnt survive, then what good was it?

i think that even you would agree?

but even this doesn mean taht they are bad ppl or did not give it their best shot.

and that is all that i mean by mission failure. no more, no less.

Yetter said...

For purposes of disclosure I knew from the begining that participation was required. We knew the road might be and was rough. My point is if a large object is coming at you, might not want to ask somebody if you should duck.If you have lost to foreclosure or are about to, I honestly believe the tools exist if one desires,to take control. I outlined some of which was not around six years ago. Dorean did not fail.They delivered the message. Justice has failed(in this case,SO FAR) and I believe there is hope regardless of what happens to Dorean, if ONE WOULD STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS.

mike prince said...

YETTER I have lost 3 homes. Have been with Dorean For a long time. Would like to go back to see what can be done. mprince86@gmail.com. Can you point me the right way. I hate Banks!!

sopsback said...

Dorean did not fail.They delivered the message.



and what message was that exactly??


that banks are a fraud??


look, they promised to save your house w/o you doing anything but paying the fee.


they did not adverstise any "particpation" other than creating a few legal entities with whihc to recieve payouts.

i listened to all they audio programs when they still had ferret doing them.


and if the message was that the hbanking system is a fruaud, then you could have gotten all that info for free on the net w/o paying a large fee for it.

it is what it is.


they did a good job trying but were defeated by a crooked system.

they wiil probably eventually win, but the point was that it will be too late for most of those in the program if some are even still alive after 6 going on 7 yrs.

and its not even over yet.

sopsback said...

and dont try to turn me into something i am not.

i am on their side

still, they did not complete the mission or complete it on time.

it failed.

get over it


look forward to your own payout and move on.....like those of us left hafe to do.....

Yetter said...

and dont try to turn me into something i am not.

Thanks, talked me into it.

sopsback said...

and waht happened to dr. fred???


noone can reach him...his phone is discocted


you mite as well be trying to reach fred flintston...yo have a better shot!!



LOL!

sopsback said...

or bonnie ramble!!


or even vilma!

mogel007 said...

When almost everyone else have said the Dorean Group have failed, & have lost interest, maybe that's the time the good Lord should step in & show otherwise.
The Lord's timing is much better than mine.

I don't believe our remedies are lost. They're still intact. That's only an assumption. Our remedies are still preserved, however, like the impatient nature of the fallen man, we judge success or failure in terms of time, a concept which is purely human, & not even divine, as "time is only measured unto man" & God is not really interested in time, but in eternity & eternal things. You don't have the fastest time in A track event, YOU ARE THE LOSER PERIOD. You are not hailed into the winners circle.

I think it is utterly amazing how we act like children sometimes & want to put time limits on people's performances and say they have failed, but leave a caveat for a later success, just in case we're wrong. LOL

Yes, I'm successful only because I'm on time because I deliver on time as a punctual person should, but I'm only unsuccessful when I am late on my promises or when I fail to meet the expectations of others.

I had one of my homes broke into this last month & the thief absconded with about $1500 worth of personal property. Should I feel guilty or responsible for this & feel that I am a failure for the thieves success? After all, the thief got away with it? Justice was not served. I wasn't there to stop him. Shame on me, I was a dollar short and hours late again. LOL

"still, they did not complete the mission or complete it on time."

I think it was this same twisted logic that the US attorneys used in the criminal court used to show that the dorean clients were the victims.

Get over it? Can you ever get over injustice WITHOUT justice being served?

I would never tell that to someone who has been injured. I might say, try & gain a new perspective from all of this bad, but I would never tell them to "get over it."

Yea, get over it! LOL
Just pull yourself up from your boot straps & act like a man. That's all you need to know & do.

Let's just simplify all of the pain.

mogel007 said...

look, they promised to save your house w/o you doing anything but paying the fee.

AGAIN, ANOTHER PERVERSION OF THE REAL TRUTH. LOL

mogel007 said...

"even if these ppl got $10 million now, but they didnt survive, then what good was it?"


If you come into this world & you eventually die, what good was this life in the first place?

Didn't survive? So you can't pass an inheritance on to your children now? Money is only good for selfish reasons?

The trust never dies and the inheritance ISN'T PROBATED. What good is it? So being a Dorean client now causes death in addition to financial harm? LOL What good is 10 Million? If I have to explain that to you what good 10 million could do in someone's life, I think you would feel much sillier than you feel right now.

I think every client could "get over it" if they had 10 million in their bank accounts.

If a 10M payout paid, even you SOP, would have wished that you took the financial risk to be a client, but of course, you are already dead to these matters, as you were never a client. How ironic is that?

mogel007 said...

SOP said: "and dont try to turn me into something i am not.

i am on their side"
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Yes, and the "banks are doing the Lord's work too." Their on his side too. LOL

What did the Lord say, "if you are luke warm, I will spew you out of my mouth."

SOP, I would say that you are kind of warm, "Dorean wasn't successful, but they might be in the future."

I would say that's neither cold nor hot, but definitely luke warm.

What else did the Lord say, "If you are not with me, you are against me."

How's this for moral support:

The Dorean Group HAVE FAILED. Yep, you are with them all right. LOL

Well, let's just pack up our things & go home and have a cry than! And than after our cry, we will just get over it, and be a man & get on with our real lives.

I think that's what Nemo did & Notarial Dissent & all the haters out there. They ran out of derogatory things to say & than just left as if nothing of relevance could ever happen for they deemed Dorean a failure too, long before EVEN YOU. Are they smarter than even you? No enduring power there. What do the scriptures say: "You must endure to the end & than you will be saved." So when is the end? Oh let me put a time table on it & define it in terms of success or failure. Yea, that's what the Lord would have me do. LOL

This mentality of their time schedule is not convenient with my time schedule is just childish comments that lacks much. It shows little hope, little faith, and no real power or understanding.

When you are right, do you consider yourself a failure?
Of course you do.

mogel007 said...

and waht happened to dr. fred???


noone can reach him...his phone is discocted
_________________________________

Oh my goodness, primae facie evidence that Dorean was a failure for sure. LOL

sopsback said...

we judge success or failure in terms of time




for someone about to be put on the street, thats the only thing that they have is time.

if they cant be saved, theye lost, their house and perhaps it could cost them their life as well.


if you cant understnad this, what can i tell you.


i guess that you look at things, if you just "think it" then its real.

doesnt work that way.


and now youre telling me that the dg wasnt about only saving the house?

waht was it then, a religious thing?


so how many you think that would have been signed up if you had told them that its not just about saving the house, but it was more than that, also a religious thing?

doubt that you would have had a dozen.


mogel, i dont judge it a failure, it has failed the ppl whove signed up for it.


the customers are the final judge.


if everything worked like you say, then the banks are legitimate becuaese they "claim to be" just as you "claim" that dorean was a success.


so if is invent and sell a faulty product, then all i have to do is claim that it was a good product and that maks it so??

dont think so.


and i also have to say, that even if/when the dg does payout, it has gone way off the track with thte religious thing.


perhaps that is why it is failing.

religion has nothing to do with the dg.

it was not advertised as such and now you cannot just inject religion and god into it.

it wasnt put out as such and you cannot do it now.

maybe that is waht is delaying it.


god may not be happy to be used for such a purpose.

if you want to preach, thats fine, but keep it separate from the mortgage issue.


we know that the banks are cheats.

we dont need to be preached to about god.

i think that kurt and dr. fred are good ppl and christians, but they need to start separating the issues here and get back to business and keep ppl up to date on what is going on with the dg.


thats waht everyone paid for

they didnt get paid to recieve religous lesssons.


its way overdone now.


and besides, eithe one is a christian or theyre not.

these religous monologs arent going to change that.

its way too late for that now.

sopsback said...

it all just become a big 'pot of farts' now......pffffffff..............

sopsback said...

btw...who was potofarts anywyas???

sopsback said...

gas = noun, gas is a part of farts but not all of it.

sopsback said...

Since there won't be any Update this week I will fill you in on what was covered this weekend with Sheldan.

At least 3 or about 1/2 of the new chakras have manifested of the new 13 chakra system anchored in.

The U.S has 5 times as many prosperity recipients as Canada followed by Australia & then England. The Fed[eral Reserve]. is running out of money & the new budget is overdue, so bankruptcy is most likely before NESARA [National Economic Security and Reformation Act].

This being a matter of days, weeks or months & most likely this year as the creditors implement NESARA.

Europe, Russia, China & Japan & many others are fully cooperating with the Galactic Federation & Earth Allies.

Those receiving their initial prosperity should transfer their funds to Basil III safe banks & during the 2 to 3 day non-disclosure those talking about the moneys will forfeit them )); The gifting will take 30 to 45 days after Nesara

+ 40 years of back taxes will be returned from now back to the end of the Vietnam war.

All prisoner cases will be reviewed & resentenced, the innocent to be released immediately, this massive review has started already. Everyone will experience Abundance & holograms will do the work where needed to fill-in on any jobs.

Buy whatever goods & services you desire, take a brief vacation, get a new car, house or whatever you want.

Once deliveries take place the new transitional gov't will be implemented for 6 months then elections will follow.

Within 6 months a 2nd funding will open to all not in the 1st prosperity funding to payout 30 days following that. There will be virtual tours of the Motherships on TV, etc & Inner earth tours will be offered to various leaders.

Full disclosure & flyovers will come a few months after Announcements when prosperity is commonplace.

New elections will take place 6 to 8 months after Nesara, also the 10,000 u.s military bases will be shutdown.

The new technologies will include sonic showers which clean our skin & soften it by sound in a minute or so.

GE had a sonic shower but felt it was too advanced for the public as I've heard about many other things...

Our clothing will sense temperature & adjust by warming or cooling us & changing fit as we wanto relax.

Sheldan explained how replicators used Divine Light & how the holodecks can simulate any environment using a relatively small space as we seem to cover miles on land, sky or sea........

We are the new hybrids having special & unique abilities as each group like the Lyrans, Sirians, etc, have.

12 to 14 months after Nesara announcements the metamorphic chambers will transition us to the 5th dimension.

Of course this is a general succinct overview of the weekend seminar....Much more was included.

You can get up to snuff on the Webinar next Sunday & Thursday following as Sheldan's birthday is tomorrow 11~11 & joining us on the webinar is a Great Present & appreciation of his dedicated work benefiting us ALL.

Also our participation increases the Galactic energies enfolding the Earth & brings them measuredly closer to us in time as well as space & shows the Masters we are ready & wanting to Participate & Change Quickly, Oh So!

See you there & then came Nesara, Jack Clearly in the Glow of HealinGrace 6*12 Night & Day http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lightworker_haven/messages

sopsback said...

The U.S has 5 times as many prosperity recipients as Canada followed by Australia & then England.




there they gone again with dose piece and proptery packs....only none getting one of deese is jimmy noone....yo no ho he is.

sopsback said...

12 to 14 months after Nesara announcements the metamorphic chambers will transition us to the 5th dimension.



if weez all gong to da 5th dimsion like da age of aqaris, then what i need money fo anyway???


cant spend it up there??

can i?

i like chinse food...nex times yo go to a chinse restant, order da dimsum...it good!!!

sopsback said...

i alreddy had it fo times beeefo...so da nex time it will be the 5th dimsum.

joseph said...

we judge success or failure in terms of time

WHO ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR WHEN YOU SAY WE?

for someone about to be put on the street, thats the only thing that they have is time.

PRICES HAVE DROPPED SINCE 2004 GREATLY. ON THE AVERAGE MAYBE 30% NATIONALLY? SOME AREAS HAVE DROPPED 60% IN PRICE. THERE ARE MANY BARGAINS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE CAN PICK UP A BETTER HOME THAT THEY MAY HAVE LOST AT A LOWER PRICE NOW. DOREAN CLIENTS STILL HAVE THE DAMAGES AGAINST THEIR LENDER WHEN THEIR HOMES PRICES PEAKED IN VALUE. IF YOU LOSE AN INFERIOR HOUSE & GET A BETTER ONE, & OWE LESS, IT'S NOT SUCH A TRAGEDY IS IT?

HOW DO PEOPLE BENEFIT IF THEY ARE UPSIDE DOWN IN THEIR HOME WHERE THEY OWE MORE THAN WHAT THE HOME IS WORTH? HOW MANY PEOPLE FALL IN THIS CATEGORY, MAYBE 20%?

if they cant be saved, theye lost, their house and perhaps it could cost them their life as well.
if you cant understnad this, what can i tell you.

A FORECLOSURE ISN'T LIFE THREATENING LIKE CANCER.


i guess that you look at things, if you just "think it" then its real.doesnt work that way.

"AS A MAN THINKETH, SO IS HE."


and now youre telling me that the dg wasnt about only saving the house?

IT WAS ABOUT PROVIDING AN INHERITANCE FOR OUR CHILDREN & THEIR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.

waht was it then, a religious thing?

IT'S BEEN A SPIRITUAL JOURNEY FOR MANY, INTENDED OR UNINTENDED.


so how many you think that would have been signed up if you had told them that its not just about saving the house, but it was more than that, also a religious thing?
doubt that you would have had a dozen.

THE POINT IS IMMATERIAL THE MOTIVATION FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP. THE POINT IS IRREGARDLESS OF A PERSON'S MOTIVATION, ALL ARE ENTITLED TO FINANCIAL DAMAGES. THEY ALL GOT WHAT THEY BARGAINED FOR WHICH WAS A DISCHARGE OF MORTGAGE OR A RECONVEYANCE OF THE MORTGAGE.

JUST BECAUSE THE CROOKED SYSTEM DOESN'T RECOGNIZE THE VALIDITY OF ALL OF THIS, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT UNTRUE OR INVALID EITHER.

mogel, i dont judge it a failure, it has failed the ppl whove signed up for it.

PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS. BLAME THE COURTS, BLAME THE BANKS & LENDERS WHO ARE JUDGED BY A DIFFERENT STANDARD THAT THE BORROWERS. THE DOREAN PROCESS DIDN'T FAIL & WASN'T IMPOTENT, THE EVIL MEN WHO CONTROL THINGS HAVE CHEATED TO WIN TEMPORARILY. IN FOOTBALL, YOU CAN CHALLENGE THE DECISION OF THE UMPIRE. OFTEN THE DECISION IS OVERTURNED.

DO YOU BELIEVE CHEATERS LIKE THE BANKS NEVER ULTIMATELY LOSE? IF THAT IS TRUE, THAN CERTAINLY THE DOREAN PROCESS HASN'T FAILED. IT ALL COMES BACK TO A TIME THING AGAIN. THAT'S WHERE WE DIFFER IN A MAJOR WAY.

the customers are the final judge.

NO, GOD IS THE FINAL JUDGE. TRUTH IS THE FINAL JUDGE. JUSTICE IS THE FINAL JUDGE.

if everything worked like you say, then the banks are legitimate becuaese they "claim to be" just as you "claim" that dorean was a success.

NO, DOREAN IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A SUCCESS, NOT DOREAN WAS A SUCCESS. I CAN WAIT FOR MY PAYOUT. BEING SUCCESSFUL IS THE ULTIMATE REVENGE.

so if is invent and sell a faulty product, then all i have to do is claim that it was a good product and that maks it so??
dont think so.

WHERE WAS THE DOREAN PROCESS A FAULTY PRODUCT? DON'T YOU REMEMBER THAT THE CRIMINAL COURT DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THE UCC BROUGHT UP BY THE DEFENDANTS? THE CRMININAL TRIAL WASN'T EVEN BASED UPON THE UCC OR ANY DEFENSES DERIVED THEREFROM. THE CIVIL COURTS DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACTS EITHER OR EVEN LISTEN TO ALL THE DEFENSES THE CLIENTS HAD AGAINST THE LENDERS.

joseph said...

SO SOP, HAS GOD FAILED US BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THAT SATAN IS THE REAL god OF THIS WORLD? YOU MUST BELIEVE THAT TOO. SO HAS GOD HIMSELF GIVEN US A FAULTY PRODUCT DOWN HERE ON EARTH WHERE EVIL REIGNS SUPREME? YOU MUST BELIEVE THAT TOO. WHY NOT BLAME GOD THAN SINCE IT'S OBVIOUS EVIL AND INJUSTICE IS WINNING.

and i also have to say, that even if/when the dg does payout, it has gone way off the track with thte religious thing.

BOTH KURT & SCOTT WERE RELIGIOUS BEFORE THEY STARTED DOREAN. BOTH PROFESSED DEEP CHRISTIAN ROOTS. IF ANYTHING, THEIR FAITH HAS REMAINED CONSTANT, NOT SOMETHING OFF THE TRACK. THE ROOTS OR BEGINNINGS OF THE DOREAN PROCESS WAS BASED UPON THE BELIEF THAT LENDING/BANKING WAS NOT SET UP ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORDS, SO IT'S BEEN A SPRITITUAL OR RELIGIOUS JOURNEY FROM IT'S INCEPTION. WHY YOU CAN'T SEE THAT, IS BEYOND ME.

perhaps that is why it is failing.
religion has nothing to do with the dg.

I DISAGREE IN A BIG WAY ON YOUR PREMISE. IF THE RELIGION HAS GOOD ROOTS, WHY SHOULD IT FAIL? IF THE SEED IS GOOD, WHY SHOULD THE FRUIT BE ROTTEN? MAYBE YOU ARE THE SEED THAT HAS GONE ROTTEN?

it was not advertised as such and now you cannot just inject religion and god into it.

OBVIOUSLY YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING ABOUT WHAT MOTIVATED KURT & SCOTT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. RELIGION WAS NOT JUST RECENTLY INJECTED INTO ALL OF THIS. YOU'RE JUST BEING STUPID NOW.

it wasnt put out as such and you cannot do it now.

I'M NOT JUST DOING IT NOW.

maybe that is waht is delaying it.

NO, THAT IS NOT WHAT IS DELAYING ANYTHING.


god may not be happy to be used for such a purpose.

GOD IS ALWAYS HAPPY WHEN YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH & STAND ON SOLID PRINCIPLES. PRAYTELL WHY IS GOD UNHAPPY SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP?

if you want to preach, thats fine, but keep it separate from the mortgage issue.

TELL THE PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE THAT DIDN'T SEPARATE THE TWO ISSUES. YOU CAN'T SEPARATE SECULAR THINGS FROM SPIRITUAL THINGS. BOTH TEMPORAL & SPIRITUAL THINGS ARE CONNECTED. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF MASLOW'S HIEARCHY OF NEEDS? DO YOU WANT TO TEACH SPIRITUAL THINGS TO A MAN WHO IS HOMELESS, NAKED & HUNGRY? IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE FIRST THING ON HIS MIND TO THINK ABOUT GOD IF HIS BASIC NEEDS AREN'T EVEN BEING MET.


we know that the banks are cheats.
we dont need to be preached to about god.

WE ALL NEED SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

i think that kurt and dr. fred are good ppl and christians, but they need to start separating the issues here and get back to business and keep ppl up to date on what is going on with the dg.

I'M SURE KURT & SCOTT ARE STILL ON THE BUSINESS OF RESTITUTION FOR CLIENTS & RESTITUTION FOR THEMSELVES. WHAT? YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT GOD WITHOUT BEING ACCUSED OF NOT MINDING THE MAIN ORDER OF BUSINESS WHICH IS BEING GOOD FIDUCIARIES?

YOU ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS IF NOTHING IS BEING DONE IN THAT DEPARTMENT. LOL

THAT'S A LITTLE BOLD & ARROGANT OF YOU, DON'T YOU THINK TO SUPPOSE & PRESUPPOSE & JUDGE! IT'S A PRE-CURSOR TO ACCUSATIONS WHICH ARE TOTALLY UNFOUNDED.


thats waht everyone paid for
they didnt get paid to recieve religous lesssons.

CLIENTS GOT EVERYTHING THEY WERE PROMISED & IN THE FUTURE WILL GET MORE THAN THEY EVEN BARGAINED FOR IN THE BEGINNING.

its way overdone now.

TOO MUCH PREACHING, HUH? TIME LIMITS FOR YOU ON THE WORD OF GOD TOO?

and besides, eithe one is a christian or theyre not.

SO YOU'RE EVEN CONFUSED WHETHER THE DOREAN GROUP ARE EVEN CHRISTIANS?

these religous monologs arent going to change that.

AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THESE RELIGIOUS MONOLOGUES.

its way too late for that now.

IT'S NEVER TOO LATE FOR THE WORDS OF GOD OR THE SCRIPTURES.

joseph said...

SOP: What I don't understand is you want to believe in Nesarra that good is going to overcome evil & replace a good financial system from a broken financial system, however, you believe that the Devil reigns supreme in this world, and that the Devil is the god of this world, so how is Nessara going to be implemented when the Devil runs the bankers & is their head?

You can't believe in Nesarra & also believe at the same time that the Devil is the god of this world running most everything. Which belief would you like to choose? You can't BELIEVE IN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

Obviously you believe in Nesarra since you promote it.

However, I also know you believe that the Devil runs this world.

Two contradictory beliefs for sure.

Maybe you're aren't smart enough to see the hypocrisy & inconsistency in your beliefs.

sopsback said...

i put up the nesaro stuff for a laff.

i dont necesarily beleive it or disbeleive it.

it generates topic.


sometimes i think its funny.


is it possibly real?

maybe.

maybe not.

it really doesnt matter

i observe.


yes, satan is the king of this worrld.


i didnt say it, jesus said it.


when the setrians came to punish him, he siad...


rembver the verse...



to the question, para. if you are a king/this is YOUR kingdum...


"...IF this were MY kingdum, my own would come fight for me..."


obviously, only jimmy noone came to fight for him.

logical assumtpton, then this is NOT his kingdum.


whose kingdum is it tthen??


you already know that.

sopsback said...

all i know is this.


ALL TRUTH SHALL BE REVEALED.


so whatver i may be wrong on will be shown me.


and whaver others are wrong on will be shown them.


i leave it at that....

sopsback said...

i also use these blaaaghs to judge how real the 2012 thing is.

and the ansers here give me pleanty of evidence that there is something real to 2012.


one of the main things is ppl dissociating from reality.



like mogel saying that the dg process was a success.

and deflecting the question to someting else.

the dg failed on the time element period.


it wasnt advertised as an "inheritance' for your g/kids

a 60 yo guy who loses his house and put out on the street may not have gotten into it for his g/kids.

he didnt care that the system is crooked.


he got into to save his house from f/c which the dg did not do.


true, it may payout later and in fact i beleive that it will.

but again, thats not the point.


its these types of things like calling failure a success by looking at it from a different perspective and not reality that makes me bleieve that soemthing is in fact up with the 2012 thing.

joseph said...

and the ansers here give me pleanty of evidence that there is something real to 2012.

NASA HAS PUT FACTS UP ON THEIR WEBSITE DISCREDITING THE MOVIE ON MANY OF THE MOVIE'S PREMISES WHICH SIMPLY AREN'T TRUE. IT'S GOOD ENTERTAINMENT THOUGH AND HOW WE NEED ENTERTAINMENT IN THESE TIMES.

one of the main things is ppl dissociating from reality.

REALITY LIKE GLOBAL WARMING? GLOBAL WARMING IS AN EXCUSE TO BRING IN ALL OF THIS GREEN STUFF CRAP WHICH BECOMES ANOTHER TAX AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO MAKE PEOPLE EVEN MORE POORER. LOL

like mogel saying that the dg process was a success.

EITHER THE PROCESS WAS GOD INSPIRED OR IT WASN'T. WHERE DO YOU STAND THERE ON THAT QUESTION?
YOU NEVER BELIEVED IT COULD BE A SUCCESS OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE PONIED UP THE MONIES IN THE VERY BEGINNING. YOU OBVIOUSLY BELIEVED IT TO BE A LONG SHOT RISK, SO YOU DIDN'T JOIN. YOU WOULD HAVE RATHER HAVE PUT YOUR MONIES IN PONZI SCHEMES WITH BERRY BALLS.

and deflecting the question to someting else.
the dg failed on the time element period.

NO, DG FAILED ON YOUR TIME ELEMENT. WASN'T IT YOU THAT SAID ALL OF THESE PROCESSES "WERE WORKS IN PROGRESS"? OR MAYBE YOU CHANGED YOUR VIEW ON THAT POINT TOO NOW? LOL

it wasnt advertised as an "inheritance' for your g/kids

DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR FROM YOUR NOSE TO SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG: FRONT PAGE OF THE BLOG:
"I decided that a company that took the matter to the people and forced the issue might just make the interest appear and that it has. Now maybe truth will find a place in the financial markets and in the hearts of the abused Americans. The American Dream of owning your own home is a hostile venue of economic warfare where a small unwavering voice can change the balance of equity."

Do you think the balance of equity will affect this generation & the next generation? OF COURSE YOU DON'T!!! LOL

a 60 yo guy who loses his house and put out on the street may not have gotten into it for his g/kids.

MOST GOT IN OUT OF SELFISH REASONS, SO WHAT?

he didnt care that the system is crooked.

WE SHOULD ALL CARE BECAUSE WE ARE ALL AFFECTED BY IT.


he got into to save his house from f/c which the dg did not do.

MAYBE HE GOT INTO IT FOR THE EXTRA CASH FLOW FOR NOT HAVING TO PAY A MORTGAGE PAYMENT BECAUSE HE BELIEVED OR HOPED THE LENDER WOULD BACK DOWN? MOST PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP WERE NOT IN DANGER OF BEING FORECLOSED UPON. REMEMBER DOREAN DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE ON FORECLOSURE CLIENTS.

true, it may payout later and in fact i beleive that it will.

THAN HOW IS IT A FAILURE?

but again, thats not the point.

YEA, THE POINT IS THAT YOU ARE IMPATIENT, LIKE MOST OTHERS.


its these types of things like calling failure a success by looking at it from a different perspective and not reality that makes me bleieve that soemthing is in fact up with the 2012 thing.

THE END OF THE MAYAN CALENDER IS NOT 2012. THAT FACT HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBSTANTIATED. 2012 WON'T BE THE END OF THE WORLD EITHER ANYMORE THAN THAT PASTOR GUY YOU KNEW WILL BE RIGHT ABOUT HIS MAY 2011 PREDICTION EITHER ABOUT THE RAPTURE. HERE IS A PASTOR THAT COMES OUT BEING COCK SURE HE IS RIGHT THIS TIME. HOW MUCH CREDIBILITY CAN HE LOSE AFTER BEING WRONG AGAIN? IT'S THE RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS & RADICALS THAT ARE OUT THERE GIVING DATES OF EVENTS AS IF THEY KNOW THE MIND OF GOD. GIVE ME A BREAK!

sopsback said...

all i can say is that there is something REAL about 2012 my friend....just sit back and watch it happen!!

sopsback said...

and tis funny...for someone who says that the banks and the govt. are cheats, then how can you put any stock into anything that nasa says????


NASA = NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER


nasa is the biggest military operation on earth.


not a space agency at all and they routinely lie about everything.

so if they say there is nothing to 2012, then yuo can count on there is something to it.

joseph said...

Never a straight answer? LOL

I don't know what scientific authorities you prefer over NASA.

The next thing you are going to tell me is that NASA lied to us & we never landed on the moon in 1969.

What a second they already made a movie on that premise, yet you will believe everything on the 2012 disaster movie or say with surety there is SOMETHING to all of that stuff in the movie.

It's called "entertainment".

joseph said...

Interesting article:

http://finance.yahoo.com/retirement/article/108169/greatest-trade-how-you-can-make-20-billion?mod=retire-planning

You too can be a billionaire just with these 9 steps. LOL

near the end said...

Ok sop if you really believe 2012 then give all your money and assets to me in 1211 since you can't take it with you; DUMBASS!!!!!!!!LOL.

near the end said...

Ok sop if you really believe 2012 then give all your money and assets to me in 1211 since you can't take it with you; DUMBASS!!!!!!!!LOL.

near the end said...

Ok sop if you really believe 2012 then give all your money and assets to me in 1211 since you can't take it with you; DUMBASS!!!!!!!!LOL.

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

near the end said...

oops; I mean 12-2011; DUMBASS!!!

sopsback said...

yo can bleef what yo want....just keep flowing to da end of da ranebow....there yo will find a big 'pot of farts'.....just like da dg say.

(just rember to let them out one at a time).....

joseph said...

.there yo will find a big 'pot of farts'.....just like da dg say.
______________________________

Is this "primae facie" evidence that you don't really believe that the Dorean Group will pay out?

Your views sometimes are a little confusing, even you would have to admit that.

I don't quite understand the humor here.

sopsback said...

like i alreddy sadi beefo, i think that the dg will pay...but the problem is like so many have found out already is:


can you survive financially or physically until they do?


i am sure that some whove singed up may be in the next dimsion by now...it almose 7 years later.

near the end said...

SOP; I think people on here would take you more serouisly if you would not post on here like a RETARDED 3rd GRADEDER.

Am I wright or wrong here people?

Forgive my typo's I'm tired.

near the end said...

SOP; I think people on here would take you more serouisly if you would not post on here like a RETARDED 3rd GRADEDER.

Am I wright or wrong here people?

Forgive my typo's I'm tired.

near the end said...

SOP; I think people on here would take you more serouisly if you would not post on here like a RETARDED 3rd GRADEDER.

Am I wright or wrong here people?

Forgive my typo's I'm tired.

near the end said...

SOP; I think people on here would take you more serouisly if you would not post on here like a RETARDED 3rd GRADEDER.

Am I wright or wrong here people?

Forgive my typo's I'm tired.

brassbird said...

I follow the blog regularly and
and I do that for several reasons.
One, I am a dg client since '04.
I did, however, continue to make
house payments just as a precaution. But with no work in months I am in line for my first
month behind. Second, sopsback
has great humor and somewhat of
a Mark Twain slant. I will take
humor over doom and gloom any day.
Third,Kurt and Scott have taken it real hard right on the jaw. They
bit off a real big chunk and that
took guts (and maybe God too). So
in conclusion, if sopsback leaves
then I ask, "where's the beef?"

forget that

sopsback said...

Third,Kurt and Scott have taken it real hard right on the jaw.




thats why i dont put any blame on them.

i know that they tried/are still trying.


i just think that they understimated to wiles of "the beast" to give in, admit the banking sytem is a frawd.

and i do beleive that eventually the dg will pay.

my beef is that the time element has failed them.

many who singed up are porbably not even alive anymore.

is it their fault?

no.

nonetheless, it doesnt change the fact that the dg was a failure just like burly baals hyips are.


when you pay for a serivce, you dont expect to wait 7-10 years to receive it.

would you order a take out meal and expect to wait 10 years to get it?

or order somehting online and wiat 9 years to arrive?

of course not!

like ive said, even tho the dg failed, it does not mean that k and s failed.

they tried.

and eventually it probably will pay but it has still failed those whove lost their homes in the meantime.

theres just no other way to look at it.

system crooked or no system crooked, it failed in its mission.

of course, since i do bleieve that there is someting to the 2011-12 scenario, then maybe it doesnt matter after all.


they beat the rest of us by a few years to the apocalyse....failing econmomy...swing flew...eerthquaks, sue narmi, hoocains, comic rays from spays..etc..etc

sopsback said...

an apocolyse really must be cumming IF this is TRUE?

the story from worldrepoots.org


(3): ARAB-ASIAN AFFAIRS, Volume 33, Number 2:
Ahmadinejad's Jewish background: His family name, Sabourjian, means the 'Jewish maker of the sabour', the Farsi word for the Jewish prayer-shawl. The Iranian President has openly admitted this. The revelation reconfirms that the entire 'Iranian play' is a controlled operation:

• The attempt to seize the world's assets.
• An Octopus Network controlled from Texas.
• Iran manipulated by the same forces.
• A Jew is 'running' Iran.
• No denial of the Jewish name change.
• Ruthless behaviour all round.
• The bloody hand of the Bush Syndicate.

sopsback said...

like they sayed, yo cant bleef anything anymo...



this almondine in a jar guy say he want to whip isreel oof da map and here he is, he a joo hisslef????


go figure???


yo cant?


neether can eye.



def gong to happen in 2012...no queston about it....this stuff make the dg stuff look irrlevant.....

sopsback said...

• A Jew is 'running' Iran.




foget it...toooooo many LOLs taht i cant even typ them all......


LOL!
LOL! X 10000000000000....0000000000000000000......

it like the nuber pie...it just go on an on an on an..........

sopsback said...

nex thins yo no, thye will tell yo dat a muslix is runnin' isreel...


now dat one even mo LOLs than da other one!!!!

judge allslop said...

The truth can be stranger than fiction.

sopsback said...

The truth can be stranger than fiction.



yo donno wah to bleef anymo.

up is down...down is up...


wtf?



2011-12?


the dg pays or not is not even relevant anymo.

what good is it if nothing is reel anymo?

yo cant count on anything that you yooze to know is real.


AND THATS EXACTLY WAHT THEY SAY ABOUT 2012.

AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I BLEEF THAT THERE IS SOMETING TO IT.


THEY SAY TAHT ALL PREVIOUSLY BLEEFED RELATIONHSIPS ARE GONG TO FAIL.


ONLY THINS THAT YO WILL HAF TO GO ON IS WISDOM AND YO 6TH CENTS.


AND THE HS OF COURSE!


IT ALL MAKE CENTS TO ME.

sopsback said...

da dg is rite!


it all jus gonna becum one big POT OF FARTS!!


NO MO. NO LESS.....

joseph said...

when you pay for a serivce, you dont expect to wait 7-10 years to receive it.
________________________________

The point is it's only been 6 years, not 10 years; no need for any exaggerations here.
And if anyone has died, they were quite old when they signed up in the first place in all likelihood.
Lastly, the clients did get what they were promised. There were no guarantees in writing that the lender wouldn't challenge anything. All of that is just wishful & hopeful thinking. Don't think the Dorean Group underestimated the beast either. Everyone knew or should have known it was a controversial procedure that hasn't been quite tried before in the exact manner the Dorean Group challenged and put things together. Anyone that really understood things wouldn't have thought that the lenders would have gave up on their economic interests anyway without a knock down drawn out fight which is what this has been. I suppose there was about 8 billion dollars worth of homes that were put in the process. You think the financial system is just going to give up on that amount of money without a long term fight? Let's be realistic here. If in the end, you get 5 times the value of your home in a settlement, what does that amount to per year? Does that make the wait seem less long?

sopsback said...

The point is it's only been 6 years, not 10 year



buttom ling is, its way tooo long of time to wait.


lookit, plane an simple:


if you give me meony to build yo a house and it takes me 8 years to build it whats gong to happen?


you will try to put me in jail over it. period.


now if i use your logic..


well, look, i started it..i cleard out the brush...i dug the fundation....i cleand the area all up...just pretent that your house it there...it will be there...just wait a bit longer....and just in case its not...your g/kids or g/g kids or your 5 generation from now will get...i guarantee yo it will be completed by 2025.....just like zager and evans song say....



come on my freind....that is a stretch even for a diehard dg bleefer...


i dont bleef that kurt and scoot should be in jail and if i were da judge they would not be.

howver, that doesnt change the fact taht for anyone else making these contracts for byuilding a house or swimming pool or anything else. THEY would be in jail for it.

you know it and i no it.


the only difference here is that we know that the reeel crmnals are the banks and the fed.

Horse with No Name said...

Has anybody heard from Dr. Fred lately? His phones have been disconnected?

joseph said...

"I will take
humor over doom and gloom any day."
________________________________

"def gong to happen in 2012...no queston about it....this stuff make the dg stuff look irrlevant....."
___________________________________Gee, no blooming gloom there!

Where's the beef?

"it all jus gonna becum one big POT OF FARTS!!"
_______________________________

Wasn't it Mark Twain that said the Book of Mormon "was chloroform in print"? Yea, that Samuel Clemens guy was about as hopeful & positive & farted about as much as SOP. LOL

And by the way Burly Balls has recommended a real program that is paying, & has been paying for over 3 years straight now consistently every week.

SOP: why didn't you get in on this one which claims it isn't a ponzi. Sports arbitrage is real & safe as anything out there & not a scheme. High returns & safe, the best of both worlds, as perfect a system that you could find:

http://www.goldnuggetinvest
.com?ref=11380

Anyone that understands how sports arbitrage is run understands it is a no loss scenario, as close to no risk as you can get. The only risk is human error or stupidity, but it's as easy that a 3rd grader could do it. Are you smarter than a 3rd grader?

joseph said...

buttom ling is, its way tooo long of time to wait.
_______________________________

Are you kidding? Can you make over a million dollars YOURSELF in 7 years just based upon a little waiting? Have you ever made this much money? If not, how are you even qualified to make such a statement to say if it's worth or not worth the wait? What experience are you referring to as saying it isn't worth the wait? You've already said it's A GIVEN THAT THEY WILL PAYOUT.

Jacob in the Bible worked 7 years to get a wife, and than worked another 7 years to get the wife he loved & wanted. Was 14 years worth the wait, course that also included alot of work too; it wasn't just waiting that was involved.

Obviously it was because he didn't quit. If Jacob quit working for his father-in-law, he would have been justified BECAUSE HE WAS TOTALLY DECEIVED, but despite all of this she was still worth 14 years of Jacob's work life in his mind & heart.

joseph said...

hey beat the rest of us by a few years to the apocalyse....failing econmomy...swing flew...eerthquaks, sue narmi, hoocains, comic rays from spays..etc..etc
___________________________________

Look around, there is opportunity like never before. It's all personal perspective.

Glass can be half full, or half empty. It's up to you.

Some of the biggest fortunes are made during the worst of times.

That one trader I mentioned before, made 20 billion dollars shorting two things:
(1) shorting financial stocks, (2) betting on the decline of housing values

What other trends out there are obvious for the future?

Where does wealth come from?

Wealth comes from the ground. When paper currencies fail, what will be valuable and why?

joseph said...

buttom ling is, its way tooo long of time to wait.
___________________________________

You must think in terms of damages and the time value of money. The longer we wait, the more we should be entitled to in all fairness for the wait.

Why is time the enemy? Maybe it can be our friend to show MORE DAMAGES due to the purchasing loss of the Dollar & more aggravating damages?

Again, it's personal perspective.

Don't you know how to turn lemons into lemonade?

Turn your disadvantages into advantages.

joseph said...

How patient is PATIENT ENOUGH TO PLEASE GOD?

I don't purport to know, but HE KNOWS.

sopsback said...

WOW!!!

i just found the "best esplanation" of what gong to hoppens by 2012.

it good.

it only a 1 linger.


"BY 2012, THE LINE BETWEEN REALITY AND ILLUSION IS GOING TO BLUR."


dat say it all, and it a good summry of it too. anyone ask yo about 2012, just splain to em in one sentace...an if they ask what dose it means?...tell them to go home an mediate on it...an if they dont get it, then just tell them to wait a few years, they will...



jus repete afta yo.....

sopsback said...

"BY 2012, THE LINE BETWEEN REALITY AND ILLUSION IS GOING TO BLUR."

"BY 2012, THE LINE BETWEEN REALITY AND ILLUSION IS GOING TO BLUR."

"BY 2012, THE LINE BETWEEN REALITY AND ILLUSION IS GOING TO BLUR."

"BY 2012, THE LINE BETWEEN REALITY AND ILLUSION IS GOING TO BLUR."

sopsback said...

yo ant an yo unkle...is it rally them?


o is it a dubble?

yo fadda an yo mudda, is it really them?

o is it a dubble?


is 1 + 1 = 2...or is it 3...or even 4 or 5???


by 2012, yo will not be totally sure of these thins.....whover cum up with this simple esplanation is a reel 'genus'...like they yooze to say about bill walsh, teh late coach of the SF 69ers foosball teem.....

sopsback said...

did da dg pay yo or not?

did it really matter?


tell the bank that yo already payed yo lean if full.

they wont be able to proof it.

buy stuff on yo credik card.

dun pay fo it.

tell them the cek is in the male.


they wont be able to proof it.


buy a hose with no money.

tell them yo will pay cash.


when they ask fo the money, tell them its already in they bank acct.


it will be there just by yo saying it is....

sopsback said...

by 2012, yo will not be totally sure of these thins



CORRCTION:


by 2012 yo will not be sure of ANYTHINS.


wah is yo name?


are yo sho???

are yo reelly sho?


are yo reely, reely, reely sho?

sopsback said...

i didnt thins so.....

sopsback said...

where yo at?


are yo really here???


or r yo on anther plant???


r yo sho???


r yo relly sho???

Horse with No Name said...

Has anyone else heard if the Feds nabbed Dr. Fred?

sopsback said...

is da noomatic plak alreddy here???

if is is , yo in BIG sheet.




Des Moines Iowa -



Polk County Medical Examiner says number of H1N1 deaths is really higher than that reported - That he has performed autopsies where the patient has "very heavy, wet hemorrhagic lungs, lungs with a lot of blood in them" (Dr. Gregory Schmunk). ~ Please see both of these links ~ link ~ link ~ The doctor also says some patients have false negatives to the H1N1 test. Of course, if something else (like a sprayed biotoxin) is causing the hemorrhagic cases (and that person does not also have H1N1) the test would be negative.

sopsback said...

the patient has "very heavy, wet hemorrhagic lungs, lungs with a lot of blood in them" (Dr. Gregory Schmunk).




jus like in yoo cranium...same thins hoppens there.


is yo name relly dr. scmuck??


are yo a goood doktor or yo relly just a scmuck???

sopsback said...

http://www.kcci.com/news/21670309/detail.html


link fo da buv sotry:

sopsback said...

dr. schmuck, not to be confuse with dr. frayed.

sopsback said...

UPDATE 11/22/09 6:30PM - Please see the following is under Comments from "Lori" she wrote the following:

I live just NW of Des Moines about 45 miles. There have been low flowing helicopters over my town for the past week. I got woke up about 3 am this morning by a low flying plane, I wasn't able to see what it was when I looked out.

sopsback said...

yea, wacth out fo dose black hell in coptics...they spray sum ugly sh*t from them.

sopsback said...

it can make you relly sick.


yo wont even care about da dg anymo.

yo be thingking about stayin' alife....just like da dg's i meen da bg's song say...

sopsback said...

Ukraine and World Pneumonic Plague Information

This Blog is strictly about what is going on in the Ukraine and possibly spreading in the area. I have been doing the postings on my blog: Sherriequestioningall blog, but this is an ongoing problem that needs it's own information page. I WILL CONTINUALLY UPDATE WITH INFORMATION AND NEWS AS I FIND IT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE UKRAINE!

sopsback said...

Has anyone else heard if the Feds nabbed Dr. Fred?





yea...relly...where is dr. fed?


have da freds got him??

judge allslop said...
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judge allslop said...

Yo Lucas,confess and the truth shall set you free. You too Billy.

Goldman lashes back at NYT.
Lucas van Praag, spokesman for Goldman Sachs (GS), fired back at the New York Times over the weekend for suggesting in an article and editorial that Goldman had more AIG exposure than it let on pre-bailout, dismissing most of the statements as "speculative." He also took issue with the findings of a government report (.pdf) that said the Fed caved in to AIG’s counterparties during the bailout. Goldman still insists its exposure was "close to zero." The Times editorial slammed Goldman for fleecing the American public and called on the firm to make a multi-billion-dollar gift to the federal Bureau of the Public Debt.

joseph said...

FEMA ordered a half a million coffins to bury people in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeqjykY5wPk

Makes you wonder what they are up to?

sopsback said...

Has anyone else heard if the Feds nabbed Dr. Fred?




i think taht dr. fed went sniffin' around to see if he could fine dat guy...what his name? ...."pot of farts"? ...maybe he find him too!

joseph said...

Why do stupid people want to cause rumors like Dr. Fred is dead or Dr. Fred has been napped by the FBI?

There is no evidence of such, so why start rumors?

There is no basis for such, & no reason why the FBI would have any interest in Dr. Fred.

Horse with No Name: Give me a break!!!

Hose with No Name, has a name, & his name is: "Jackass".

sopsback said...

There is no basis for such, & no reason to fred over dr. fret.

judge allslop said...

Aliens are holding Dr Fred at an undisclosed location.

sopsback said...

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!


(and dont eat too many trunips, else yo will wine up with a "pot of farts" afterwords....)

judge allslop said...

Like wise to all

joseph said...

Man gets his mortgage debt of $525,000 zeroed out by the Judge since the foreclosing lender unmercifully tries to foreclose on clients & refuses to work modification agreements out despite the lender recently getting a huge bailout from the government. Some judges are sending an angry message that this double standard is unfair & needs to be punished. Hopefully this trend of rulings towards the consumer's benefit will continue:


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/judge_kos_mortgage_to_slap_bank_28ZS1oW8Y58z6gu1AQbWMI

This story kind of reminds me of Jesus's debtor's parable about showing mercy after receiving mercy.

near the end said...

I spoke with Fred about a month ago he has a new phone # just email him if you need it. He will gladly send it to you.

joseph said...

Here is the full link of that article:


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/
local/judge_kos_mortgage_to_
slap_bank_28ZS1oW8Y58
z6gu1AQbWMI

joseph said...

If you are behind on your mortgage payments & need to do a loan modification agreement with your lender, and if you know your lender got bailout funds, this Court Case is something you could show your lender to induce them into doing a modification agreement with you.

After all, tell the lender that they don't want to be another Court Case casualty like this one where the borrower got $525,000 wiped clean.

Sometimes too much unmerciful greed can NET YOU ONLY PAIN IN THE END, so says the proctologist.

joseph said...

Judge blasts bad bank, erases 525G debt


Judge KOs 525G mortgage to slap bank

By KIERAN CROWLEY, RICH WILNER and DAN MANGAN

Last Updated: 4:18 PM, November 25, 2009

Posted: 3:46 AM, November 25, 2009

A Long Island couple is home free after an outraged judge gave them an amazing Thanksgiving present -- canceling their debt to ruthless bankers trying to toss them out on the street. Suffolk Judge Jeffrey Spinner wiped out $525,000 in mortgage payments demanded by a California bank, blasting its "harsh, repugnant, shocking and repulsive" acts. The bombshell decision leaves Diane Yano-Horoski and her husband, Greg Horoski, owing absolutely no money on their ranch house in East Patchogue. Spinner pulled no punches as he smacked down the bankers at OneWest -- who took an $814.2 million federal bailout but have a record of coldbloodedly foreclosing on any homeowner owing money."The bank was so intransigent that he [the judge] decided to punish them," Greg Horoski, 55, said about Spinner's scathing ruling last Thursday against OneWest and its IndyMac mortgage division. It erased up to $291,000 in principal and $235,000 in interest and penalties. The Horoskis -- who had been paying only interest on their mortgage -- had no equity in the home. Horoski, who had begged the bankers to let him restructure the loan, said, "I think the judge felt it was almost a personal vendetta." Dealing with the bank, he said, was "like dealing with organized crime."OneWest said, "We respectfully disagree with the lower court's unprecedented ruling and we expect that it will be overturned on appeal."It claimed it "has been extremely active in working with consumers on home loan modifications through the Obama administration's Home Affordable Modification Program and other loan modification initiatives." The bank is owned by a private equity group that purchased the failed IndyMac bank. Yano-Horoski, a college professor of English and cognitive reason, and Horoski, who sells collectible dolls online, bought their 3,400-square-foot, one-level house 15 years ago for less than $200,000. In 2004, court records show, they refinanced, paying off their original mortgage with part of a $292,500 sub-prime loan from Deutsche Bank. They used what was left for health care and for his business. The loan carried an initial adjustable interest rate of 10.375 percent, which soared to 12.375 percent. It eventually ended up being either owned or serviced by IndyMac, and the bank sued the couple in July 2005 when they began having trouble making payments because of Horoski's health problems. After a foreclosure was approved last January, Yano-Haroski successfully asked for a court settlement conference. Spinner excoriated OneWest for repeatedly refusing to work out a deal, for misleading him about the dollar amounts at stake in the case, and for its treatment of the couple over months of hearings. OneWest's conduct was "inequitable, unconscionable, vexatious and opprobrious," Spinner wrote. He canceled the debt because the bank "must be appropriately sanctioned so as to deter it from imposing further mortifying abuse against [the couple]. The bank is involved in a similar case in California, where it's trying to foreclose on an 89-year-old woman, despite two court orders telling it to stop.

kieran.crowley@nypost.com

joseph said...

Dealing with the bank, he said, was "like dealing with organized crime."

LOL

joseph said...

Indymac Bank was one of the biggest bankruptcies & one of the biggest failures to date, and "dealing with them is like dealing with organized crime!" Maybe they should not have been saved, maybe mercy was the wrong attribute to show towards them? Go figure!!!!

joseph said...

Same Bank is evicting GRANDMA TOO. Apparently the lender also ignores court orders:

The bank is involved in a similar case in California, where it's trying to foreclose on an 89-year-old woman, despite two court orders telling it to stop.

Grandma didn't get "run over by a reindeer", but by her bank. LOL

joseph said...

A Reno law firm is preparing a class action lawsuit on behalf of Nevada homeowners who face foreclosure by a surrogate company that represents thousands of mortgage owners but doesn't actually own the loans themselves. If they succeed, the fallout could halt foreclosures

The company, known as Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems (MERS), was created by the mortgage industry years to keep track of the ownership of mortgages that are packaged inside of mortgage pools and often subject to in a series of transactions. This based in Reston, Virginia company didn't own the mortgages it registered, but it was listed in public records either as a nominee for the actual owner of the note or as the original mortgage holder. Some 60 million loans are registered in the name of MERS.

Last month the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that MERS had "no right to the underlying debt repayment secured by the mortgage." The court also said that even though MERS was named as mortgagee in the case at hand, it didn't have an interest in the underlying property. Even though the Kansas decision directly affects only cases in that state, it raises questions about MERS' legal right to participate in foreclosure filings elsewhere.

Homeowners in Nevada, which ranked number one in foreclosure filings in August with nearly 18,000 in that month, moved swiftly to determine how the Kansas affects their situation. Foreclosure filings in Kansas, which ranked 35th among all states, were only about 1000 in August.

Nevada is a no judicial foreclosure state, meaning foreclosure doesn't require a judge's approval. However, when a delinquent homeowner facing foreclosure files for bankruptcy protection, a lender — or, in this case, MERS — that wants to protect its assets must get permission from the federal bankruptcy judge to foreclose.

Federal Bankruptcy Judge Linda Riegle ruled earlier this year in Las Vegas that MERS had no standing because the company is not the real party in interest — it doesn't actually own the loan. In other words, in the course of bankruptcy proceedings, MERS had no claim to the house.

The Reno law firm Hager & Hearne is preparing a class action lawsuit that will seek to invalidate the right of MERS to trigger foreclosure in light of the Kansas decision. If successful, it might force the legal ownership of the nearly one million Nevada mortgages on the MERS system to be transferred to the names of their actual owners and slow or halt foreclosures around the country,

Meanwhile, a spokeswoman for MERS, told the Las Vegas Sun the company will appeal the Kansas ruling.

"The ruling is confusing and goes against long-standing precedent," she said.

From Real Estate Economy Watch

Joseph said...

To All Damaged Parties: The attorney's in Nevada which have started a Class Action Suit for the people there said they are doing it for ALL 29 states that have Non-Judicial Foreclosures.

If your mortgage is in a non-judicial foreclosure state & is listed with MERS, and you were put in foreclosure by MERS or have lost a home to MERS, listen up. This class action lawsuit WILL BE HUGE & you might as well get a piece of the pie & join in. LOL

If you need more info, & feel a need to get involved & want the attorney's name & address & phone number, just email Sherri:

sherriequestioningall@yahoo.com

Joseph said...

Those that are affected by foreclosure by MERS, here is the law firm to join the class action lawsuit; this action can keep you in your home for a much longer period of time & maybe get you financial compensation:


Law Office of Hager & Hearne
www.hagerhearne.com

245 E Liberty St
Reno, NV 89501
(775) 329-5800

strat said...

How would you know if your Mortgage is registered thru MERS?

It's not something you can look up on your own, it is internal to the banks system.

Joseph said...

You can find out who your servicer information is by going to this website:


https://www.mers-servicerid.org/sis/search

You can do this either through the MIN #, the property address, the borrowers name, or the FHA/VA certificate number.

If you do a search, & nothing comes up on your mortgage, than chances are you aren't registered with MERS.

strat said...

Thanks for the link.

sopsback said...

Nov. 27, 2009

The old traitors and Nazis just don’t get it, do they?

The traitorous Nazi stooges in Japan have been trying everything in their power to steal money from the Japanese people in order to hand it to the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate. According to Black Dragon Society members the traitors trying this are: former Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone and his son, former Prime Minister Koizumi, former BOJ vice president Toshiro Muto, former BOJ governor Fukui, former Finance Minister Heizo Takenaka, and Yoshifumi Nishikawa, ex-president of the Sumitomo-Mitsui Banking group. They are trying to cash Kennedy silver and gold-backed bonds. The Japanese police and yakuza have been informed and we strongly recommend to these traitors that they resume their lives of retired gentlemen of leisure instead of going to jail.

On a different front, although it is still not fully confirmed, we have reason to believe George Bush Senior and his wife Barbara have been killed. That means the new Nazi leadership consists of Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Ben (deputy Fuhrer) Bernanke and that whole crowd of neo-con neo-Nazis. If I were them, I would be very scared right now.

When Paul Wolfowitz came to the Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan, I asked him the following question: “In the Plan for a New American Century you called for a huge military build-up despite the end of the cold war. Shouldn’t that money have been better spent say, ending poverty and stopping environmental destruction?”

The entire assembled press and diplomatic corps issued a loud nervous giggle on hearing this question while Wolfowitz for a second displayed an expression of sheer terror. Wolfowitz later used 911 and the “war on terror,” as his excuse but that look on his face told me what I need to know. He knows he is being a very bad boy. I would like to tell you Wolfowitz that you had better surrender before it is too late. You can surrender now and appear before a truth committee in exchange for amnesty or you can wait until the wheels of justice slowly but inevitably grind their way towards you and you get the death penalty. The same goes for all of you Nazis. Surrender now with dignity or end up like Mussolini or worse.

benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

sopsback said...

i mean sum timse this sh*t jus get tooo crazy with this stuff....

On a different front, although it is still not fully confirmed, we have reason to believe George Bush Senior and his wife Barbara have been killed. That means the new Nazi leadership consists of Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Ben (deputy Fuhrer) Bernanke and that whole crowd of neo-con neo-Nazis. If I were them, I would be very scared right now.

sopsback said...

but yo rite about one thins...if i was dem, i be very scarred too!!


the hole thins about to claps....


the doola alreddy clapsed against the yooro..


dr. burnkey must be scarred rite now when he gotta tell his bosses dat da jug is up....they cant keep da caroosil gong anymo.

sopsback said...

he got a beter shot investin in burly baals hypes...yo haf the same shot of makin money

sopsback said...

On a different front, although it is still not fully confirmed, we have reason to believe George Bush Senior and his wife Barbara have been killed.



noone is a bigger conspricy therist than me, but even this is too much fo yo to bleef.

i meen cum on...

even this wood be impossible to hide from the control medium tv.


jeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz........



first pallson was kill...then he had a dubble.

now scrub sr. is kill


maybe he haf a dubble to...o even a triple?

sopsback said...

CHECK THIS OUT!

woman sees image of jesus on her iron.


jeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz....





http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091127/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_iron_jesus

Justice said...

There surely is a reason why the FBI would have an interest in Dr. Fred. Just as the CPA Todd Swanson. He cried and pleaded the fifth when called to testify!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joseph said...

He cried and pleaded the fifth when called to testify!!!!!!!!!!!!!
______________________________

Pleading the 5th could also mean that he could have felt why testify, since he said everything there is to say in each Dorean Presentment anyway. If people aren't listening anyway, what's the point? If people are just out to get you anyway & defame you in any way possible, what's the point? What can you say that hasn't already been said?
If truth doesn't matter, what's the point? If the court or the CPA examining board has already made up their mind about the nonsense of the Federal Reserve Publications, what's the point? Isn't it easier just to exert your rights & shut up sometimes?

Justice, You're trying to understand his motivations, & maybe you're wrong in the way you see things?

Any testimony he could have gave wouldn't have made a hill of a difference, do you agree, so what exactly was your point again?

Pleading the 5th doesn't necessarily mean that you are guilty of anything, but you already know that.

Joseph said...

Justice: I'm glad to see that you are still reading the blog. That speaks volumes to me.

Joseph said...

Justice said: There surely is a reason why the FBI would have an interest in Dr. Fred.
_________________________________

Ok, I'll bite. What is that interest?

Justice said...
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Justice said...

Swanson would have ensured him a jail sentence that's why he changed his mind about testifying. He was under investigation when he was due to testify, and he wasn't the only person, hence Dr. H Fred.

As to if the investigation is over, I cannot answer that with any certainty, but at that point there was certainty about Swanson and three others.

sopsback said...

?? HOW MANY FARTS ARE IN A POT OF FARTS ??


ask da dg, they no.

sopsback said...

and is that hole, or in part?

sopsback said...

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November 28, 2009 posting

... the economic fall of an entire very wealthy nation ... DUBAI IS BANKRUPT ... ok out there in Disneyland ... for all that think everything is normal ... you have most likely heard ... the small emirate of Dubai has defaulted on loans to the world lending institutions ... thought your mortgage payment was big ??? theirs was only about 30 billion dollars a month ... and they cannot pay ... so who comes in and takes it all ... after loaning them phony money in the first place ??? well for all those that thought i was kidding about the impending world economic collapse ... welcome to the real world ... it is happening fast and furious ... and the one thing you will all need ... whether you are the sheik of dubai ... or just a regular guy with a family down the street in the good ole USA ... is gold ... hope you are independent !!! and if you do have gold, then i hope you have plenty of food and water also to last a lifetime as you just may need them !!! if not see the web ordering page for the last great blow out sale on gold coins and bulloin.

sopsback said...

thought your mortgage payment was big ??? theirs was only about 30 billion dollars a month



jeeeez...thats a lot...almost as much as my mtg. payment for the year.

sopsback said...

they may even have to close down that ski resort built in the desert.

ho much did that cost?

$30 billon by itself.



ho much it cost to make snow in the dessert when it 110*F ??

sopsback said...

?? what ways mo ??

a pot o' gold or a pot o'

farts????

sopsback said...

must be the gold.

a pot of farts is pretty airy, eh??

sopsback said...

2012: Arrival of Meshiach??

http://defenderpublishing.blogspot.com/2009/11/comments-on-coast-to-coast-am-about.html



Friday, November 27, 2009
Comments On Coast To Coast AM About The Arrival Of The Jewish Messiah In 2012
This last Wednesday on Coast to Coast AM, people were particularly taken with comments I made about the 700-year old Zohar predicting the arrival of the Jewish Messiah in the year 2012.

I must give credit where credit is due.

I was in my office earlier this year when Dr. J.R. Church of Prophecy in the News called me about my latest research, asking if I was aware that ancient orthodox Jewish prophets in the Zohar had predicted the arrival of their Messiah in the year 2012. I was not, and given that the Zohar is widely regarded the most important work of Jewish Kabbalah, J.R. certainly had my attention. Our conversation lasted about an hour with exciting details I am hoping to write soon, but involved several startling observations including those by a rabbi named Simeon:

"When the sixtieth year shall have passed over the threshold of the sixth millennium, the God of heaven will visit the daughter of Jacob with a preliminary remembrance. Another six and a half years will then elapse, and there will be a full remembrance of her …

"This "sixtieth year" of the Jewish calendar, says J.R., passed over the "threshold of the sixth millennium" in the year 2000.

J.R. followed up in an email:

It was the Jewish year 5760. According to the 700 year-old prophecy, God will visit the "daughter" or remnant of Jacob with a "preliminary remembrance." Just what this preliminary remembrance should be is not clear. But what is clear, is that it is only preliminary. It is not the final arrival of the Messiah to establish the kingdom.

That this "remembrance" should occur around the year 2000 is quite interesting. The prophetic commentary continues by saying that the following "six and a half years" will conclude with a "full remembrance." The thirteenth-century rabbinical commentary continues:

"Then all the nations shall combine together against the daughter of Jacob in order to drive her from the world. It is of that time that it is written: "And it is a time of trouble unto Jacob, but out of it he shall be saved" (Jeremiah 30:7)."

This ancient rabbinical dissertation claims that Rome will be destroyed in the Jewish calendar year 5773, which, in our calendar begins with the new moon of September 2012 and concludes a year later:

"In the year seventy-three [2012 / 2013] the kings of the world will assemble in the great city of Rome, and the Holy One will shower on them fire and hail and meteoric stones until they are all destroyed, with the exception of those who will not yet have arrived there."

sopsback said...

"In the year seventy-three [2012 / 2013] the kings of the world will assemble in the great city of Rome, and the Holy One will shower on them fire and hail and meteoric stones until they are all destroyed, with the exception of those who will not yet have arrived there."




yes, i rember something about this, that god will put it in their hearts to burn her with fire.


the city on 7 hilss will be destroyed.

of course, this represetn the bmr/roman cath church, whihc of course in itself is/has long been infiltrated by ..... yo figure it out.

sopsback said...

Besides the obvious revelations of the Zohar prophecies, another thing that immediately stood out to me was how among other scholars of the implications of the year 2012, a few have pointed to a prophecy by Malachy O’Morgair, or "St. Malachy" as he is known to Catholics, having to do with "the last pope." This prophecy, taken from St. Malachy’s "Prophecy of the Popes," is among a list of verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope, "Peter the Roman," whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome. According to Malachy’s prophecy, the next pope (following Benedict the 16th) is to be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus, or "Peter the Roman." He will assume authority during a time of great tribulation, and then "the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible and fearsome Judge will judge his people."

So both the 700-year old prophecies of the Jewish Zohar and 870-year old prophecies of the Catholic St. Malachy focused on the timeframe 2012, with very similar predictions of the rise of a "Messiah" combined with the destruction of Rome.

sopsback said...

in forcloseer??

dun worry. just stall 'em fo a few mo yers...afta that, it wont matter. yo haf yo house free by then...at leest what left of it...afta the erthquaks and sue narmi get to it.


btw, i saw the movee 2012 last weeek. great specal effects. hole cities beeing swallowed up in the erth. very scarry.....

sopsback said...

an dats just what they turn into...hole cities....

Joseph said...

Most global banks are unsafe:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6638922/Most-global-banks-are-still-unsafe-warns-SandP.html

Joseph said...

Justice said: "As to if the investigation is over, I cannot answer that with any certainty, but at that point there was certainty about Swanson and three others."
________________________________

Can't answer to any certainty, can't specify why the authorities would be interested in Dr. Johnson specifically, or for what acts, yet you say there were 3 others besides Swanson, but don't name the 3 others either, just Dr. Fred?

Sounds to me like what rumors are made out of, very general stuff with uncertainties & nothing real concrete. An ongoing investigation? What more needs to be investigated? Seems to me the FBI or US Marshalls can't even find Sarah Magoon assuming of course they are even looking for her. Are they still investigating her too or has she gone over to the dark side? They thought to charge her, but can't even find her it seems & it appears no jail time for her.

It's a little unclear to me how a person can face a jail sentence by simply testifying at a CPA disciplinarian meeting and how are they even to know what he is going to say at a hearing anyway or even if it would be of a criminal nature? Sounds like a threat to me of black mail of some kind. Heavens, that was many years ago & what has happened to Swanson other than getting one of his State licenses jerked? I think he's still practicing his CPA stuff in another State, is he not?

Seems to me that an "investigation" means someone in the criminal trial testifying that they read on an internet website that First Mutual Trust of Switzerland for example, was nothing but a "flower shop" so it must be true & testified as such. LOL That's all the investigations we ever heard about them in court. Is this the type of ongoing "investigations" that need to be feared?

A lot of threats have been made in the past, but how many have come to pass? The biggest threat as I remember in the beginning was that the Dorean Group were going down for bank fraud, yet all those charges were dropped. So was the Dorean Group investigated for bank fraud & if so, for how long? Is there still an ongoing investigation against the Dorean Group for bank fraud?

Seems like lately in the news that the banks have been on the defense lately for all of their fraud & even the US Attorney is interested in several cases involving the conduct of a few of the banks.

Jammed-up Client said...

Greetings All, I am a Dorean Client. I am trying to get information on how to get control of my property again. Kurt and Scott are trustee of the trust and power of attorney. I can't refinance or sell the property!...I can't contact Dr. Fred for some reason???...PLEASE HELP!!!!!