Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Fraud Statute More Broken Than You Imagine

Dear Mr. Rothfeld

I read your article "Fraud Cases get Rehashed after Court Ruling" dated September 25, 2010. I am one victimized by these vague penal fraud statutes. My studies show the problem and fix to be far more complicated than the surface rhetoric being bantered about. The Skilling ruling was wrongly decided and will not stand. J. Ginsberg misapplied the doctrine of constitutional avoidance and expressed as much when J. Scallia baited her in the concurance to defend. He was right that section 1346 fails to express the behavior it condemns. (see sorich dissent 2009) What people are overlooking about 1346 is that it was an errant fix to the McNally ruling of 1987. They reacted to the courts redefinition of "money and property" to include honest services by enacting 1346 which is titled "the definition of scheme or artifice". A phrase common to all fraud statutes in chapter 63 of title 18. Scheme or artifice was defined by the McNally fix (1346) in the 1987 enactment to include honest services which is too vague to function at law and should have been found unconstitutional by the high court. Instead. I believe for economic and political reasons, they violated what they said they would not in clark v. martinez 2008 to "invent" as Scallia put it, a new statute in violation of the separations doctrine and trespassed upon the legislators. An act that will not be overlooked as your article notes. When the court in Skilling confined the 1346 definition to only bribes and kickbacks they were not confining honest services as everyone believes from their cursory review but confined all fraud statutes (bank, mail,and wire) to only bribes and kickbacks through the common language of "scheme or artifice to defraud". This is tantamount to a judicial pardon, which is very different than the executive, for all fraud practiced during the mortgage crisis. Of course with a judicial pardon there is no immediate release for the incarcerated or immediate assurance you will not be taken before a grand jury. It will be relegated only to those who know how to avoid all the prosectorial and judicial traps that are laid to secure an unjust conviction. For the few who will argue correctly and not succumb to fear they will ultimately prevail. White collar prosecutions are a darling of the this system and will only suffer a small setback why the government tries to limit the collateral damage of the Skilling ruling and to deceive the public with legal deflections. Thanks for your time.

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judge allslop said...

Don't look too deep you might find somthing, maybe Dorean? 5 years ago you were a criminal nut bar if you brought up the subject of Bank Mortgage Fraud, now its every where in open view.This will be fascinating to watch how this will be covered up or exposed even furthur.


WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Justice Department is looking into reports that U.S. financial institutions improperly foreclosed on houses, Attorney General Eric Holder said on Wednesday. Several states are investigating the practices of institutions like Ally Financial Inc, formerly known as GMAC, and JPMorgan Chase and Co, among others, and those two have suspended foreclosure proceedings in many states. The home lending unit of Ally has said that employees preparing foreclosures had submitted affidavits to judges containing information they did not personally verify, drawing outrage from homeowners, lawmakers and state prosecutors.“We are aware of the charges that have surfaced in the newspapers in the last couple of days and we’re looking at them,” Holder told reporters during a news conference on another matter.

judge allslop said...

Fixed, problem solved. Of course there all unjustified.

Published: Thursday, 7 Oct 2010 | 12:58 PM The White House said Thursday the administration is reviewing legislation that could make it more difficult for homeowners to challenge unjustified foreclosure actions.
White House officials held meetings on the bill to weigh whether the president should sign or veto the legislation, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said.
The bill, which zoomed through the Senate last week with no public debate, could save bank and mortgage processors from liability for foreclosure documents that were prepared improperly.
It requires courts to accept all out-of-state notarizations, including those stamped en masse by computers.
Its passage caught homeowners' advocates, including lawyers and some state officials, by surprise.
LOL

judge allslop said...

Good thing it election time, lets see what happens after.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama will not sign legislation that could have made it more difficult for homeowners to challenge unjustified foreclosure actions, the White House said on Thursday.

sopsback said...

it all dont matta anymo...


"da house is cummin' down"



one way, the otehr, it cummin down...


dg or no dg...ppls arent going to wait until 2025 to set thins rite...

stay toon...


yo will soon see....

judge allslop said...

Your probably right, it's just nice to see forgery isn't legal. Yet.

sopsback said...

rember ho every nun an paster thins dat dis guy was a cristan??


what is dat book he carryin??

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/bush-with-talmud.jpg


it look like a babble on tall mouth to me??

sopsback said...

Ex-President George W Bush on his way to Talmud class



dun worry, they all be studin in da tall mud. coss they all be warin hi boots from all da sh*t they spoo

sopsback said...

slop had it nailed from 10 yers ago, dat they ALL parctice da relgion of the babble on...


da BMR-BABYLONIAN MISERY RELIGION


REMBER: MYSTERY-BABYLON THE GREAT, MOTHER OF ALL HARLOTS AND OBAMANATIONS OF THE EARTH.


ALSO KNOW AS ROAMING CATLICKS


THEY LICK PUSSY(CATS) WHEY EVER THEY GO.

habakkuk said...

RISMEDIA, October 8, 2010—National civil rights groups, including the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the National Fair Housing Alliance, National Council of La Raza, the NAACP, and the Center for Responsible Lending, are renewing their April 2007 call to institute an immediate national moratorium on foreclosures. The civil rights groups believe that until lenders demonstrate that they are adhering to all existing laws, regulations, and contractual guidelines related to loss mitigation and foreclosure legal process, lenders in all 50 states should not move forward with any foreclosures. According to the groups:

• Across the country, lenders are announcing temporary foreclosure moratoria and attorneys general are calling for the same because of systemic illegal foreclosure filings and misrepresentations. Many homes were foreclosed upon based on banks’ fraudulent or inaccurate documentation. While the extent of the fraud continues to be revealed, many lenders have instituted no foreclosure stop at all, and no lender has yet issued a national moratorium...

Source: http://rismedia.com/2010-10-07/national-civil-rights-groups-renew-call-for-immediate-moratorium-on-all-home-foreclosures/

sopsback said...

can any nun see dat it now about survifal???


it not even about fuclosers anymo



it about survifal


first they poison the gulf with tocksick sh*t


now they gonna piss on da hole dan yube riva with hefty metals taht way a lot.


it all cumminn down now.


whay they gonna do soon to whey yo live???

yo can bet dat sumting is cumming to a theta near yo. an soon to.

sopsback said...

the danube river getting pissoned is serious sh*t


it will affect millions of ppl even more than the gulf leak is. the danube runs thourgh like 7 or 8 cuntries in yo rope. they ready to hang demslefs with a rope now cause all the river is tock sick and need a doctor.



hmmmm...maybe dr. fred flinston can hep yo???


LOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!

paw said...

Is there anyone out there that can tell me what I can do to clear up my title? I set up a trust with Scott and Kurt as trustees back in 2005. I need to open up a line of credit on my home to pay for home repairs and my daughters braces. When the bank did a title search they found that the property is in trust and that Scott and Kurt are the trustees. The bank said they need Scott and Kurt to sign off on the loan before they can process it. Can I keep the trust and appoint new trustees? Can I dissolve the trust and clear up the title? I need a remedy and fast. Please help.

sopsback said...

ha! LOL!!!


scintists say dat the hefty metals flooding into the danube are NOT TOXIC!???


what??

are yo f**king crazy o waht???


the danube was one of the cleanest rivers on the planet and actually used in some parts of europe for drinking water.

they poisoned on purpose.


just a week ago, a govt. inspector was there to check the pond before the 'accident'


so wahts the odds of 2 major bodies of water being contaminated in 6 mos???


not likely, unless it was done on purpose.

these were both acts of sabotage.


its become obvious, the ptb know that there is shortly, and i mean weeks maybe, a global economic crash, ie., liquidity crisis, ie THEY CANNOT PRINT PHONEY MONEY ANYMORE, NOONE WANTS IT!

so their solution is twofold;


1. create distractions, like disasters in waterways

2. start liminatin' ppl


ITS NOW OBVIOUS, THE GLOVES ARE OFF.


THE PTB ARE BEGINNING TO ELIMINATE PPL FOR REAL.


TAKE THIS SERIOULSY. STOCK UP SOME FOOD/WATER/GUNS and maybe a berkey water filter.

YOU DONT KNOW WHERE THEY AER GOING TO STRIKE NEXT.

even the foreclosure gains are becoming obvious to you or should, that this is just another distraction.

it means nothing because they know that something bigger is coming which will render their "apparent' losses in the foreclosure arena a moot point.


use the spirit to tell you what i am saying is true.

its no longer about foreclosures, its going to shortly be about survival. you will get to stay in your houses, but the question is, CAN YOU SURVIVE THERE???

sopsback said...

the poisoning of the danube river is gong ot lead to many hundreds of thous of ppls dieing in the next few years...

no question that the gloves are now off.

the ptb are going to start killing ppls in bunches for real now. their not f***king around anymore.

so be prepared and get ready.


if you live near a major body of water, be alert.

they may not necearily try to poison it, but could break a dam, levy, jetty, etc to flood it


be aware.

sopsback said...

see, they know that the jig is up with printing fiat money, that why gold is knocking the door to $1400/oz

they cant allow that to happen, so like a cornered rat, they are going to bite and bite hard.

sopsback said...

the georgia guidestones made many years ago


TO CREATE A 'SUSTAINABLE' POPULATION OF THE EARTH OF ABOUT 500,000,000 PPL IN TOTAL.


theys 6 billon ppls now.

so wahdoseitmeans??


it mean dat a lot of pppls can kiss they *ss goodby fo real.

sopsback said...

now they admint it:


they trying to blow da hole fu**king plant up!!

http://www.cerntruth.com/?p=125

and on 11/9 da reverse of 9/11


rember dat webbots say to look fo sumtng between 8/8 and 8-11 bigger than 9/11 is cumming

could dis be it?


they create a strange plant???

sopsback said...

corction:


rember dat webbots say to look fo sumtng between 8/8 and 8-11 bigger than 9/11 is cumming



between 11/8 and 11/11 it suppose to say

sopsback said...

from the above site:




"In those documents CERN affirms there is a 65-70% of chances of producing negative strangelets, which according to standard science on strangelets today, will provoke the ice-9 reaction (name taken from Cat and Cradle’s book in which a physicist destroys the world throwing a new type of water that freezes the planet, since an ice-9 reaction will condensate the planet in a 15 kilometers ultra-dense strange star).

Thus CERN has been lying and it is playing with all mankind a Quantum Russian Roulette game with 4 shots out of 6, 66% chances of extinction. This will be even if we survive the biggest genocide of history, calculated multiplying probability and victims: 66% x 6.6 billions=4.4 billions, 1000 times the Holocaust. The experiment will start in 45 days now. We might be living the last month of our existence as individuals and as a species. This Fall can be indeed the Fall of Man. And yet, the experiment is not stopped. This machine is too big to fail.

sopsback said...

This will be even if we survive the biggest genocide of history, calculated multiplying probability and victims: 66% x 6.6 billions=4.4 billions, 1000 times the Holocaust. The experiment will start in 45 days now.



dint i just say dat a lot of ppls can kiss they *ss googby?


now they be f**king with da laws of da unreverse. and all they can do is go backwards.

judge allslop said...

PAW
I need to dig for the exact details, I did mine three years ago and things could have changed.Start with the title office in your County,state.Pretty sure any title company will not accept sign off from Kurt or Scott. Most likely you will have to go through the clerks office for the ninth Federal court for a remedy (San Francisco).They say allow 90 days, although I did mine in six weeks with an attorney.

paw said...

Judge,

Thank you for responding so quickly.
I'm from Montana.
Would I still need to go through a federal court in San Fransisco to clean-up my title issues?

judge allslop said...
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judge allslop said...

Unless some one comes on here with new information, all titles with Scott and Kurt as trustee's of the note have to go through the court that created the order for final review before any title Co will stand behind it.This does not interfere with you particpating as a client of Dorean.Call the court to get furthur info,I'm sure you can correspond through phone or e-mail. Be patient the wheels move slowly. I learned to go through the assitants office, things move faster.

mogel007 said...

1. Candidate for Sheriff Rico S. Giron Will Declare a Moratorium on All Foreclosures and Evictions in His County (San Miguel, New Mexico) - - http://ricoforsheriff.com/moratorium-on-mortgage-foreclosures And he will NOT enforce any IRS liens or levies; he will repeal the Patriot Act; he will NOT accept any salary, etc. etc. WOW! Where can we get sheriffs like that in our own communities?!?
http://ricoforsheriff.com

2. Texas Attorney General calls for statewide foreclosure freeze
www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9ILJRE81.htm

3. New York Times: Flawed [apparently fraudulent] Paperwork Aggravates a Foreclosure Crisis www.nytimes.com/2010/10/04/business/04mortgage.html?_r=2&partner=TOPIXNEWS&ei=5099

4. Documents Show CitiMortgage and Wells Fargo Also Committed Foreclosure Fraud
http://srph.it/amvWqK

5. Speaker of the House Pelosi Calls For Investigation Of Foreclosure Fraud
www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/05/democrats-call-for-invest_n_751373.html

6. Attorneys General Ordering Banks to Halt Foreclosures for Possible Violations - - "There's a wildfire spreading across the country: instead of the continuing wave of foreclosures, the practices banks use to initiate the sales of homes are going under the microscope of judges and attorneys general."
www.californiarealestatefraudreport.com/archives/1575

7. 40,000 Turn Up for Mortgage Reduction Event in LA - - October 6, 2010
www.larouchepac.com/node/16014

8. Systemic Fraud Dominates Mortgage-Securitization and Foreclosure Scam
www.larouchepac.com/node/16009

9. State of Georgia Set to End Forced Driver's Licenses
www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/fulltext/hb875.htm
(this is not foreclosure related, but is interesting nonetheless, as it begins another branch of the trend towards greater individual sovereignty)

mogel007 said...

10. Three More States Demand Halt to Foreclosures - 10-06-10
www.thetruthaboutmortgage.com/three-more-states-demand-halt-to-foreclosures/utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email

11. Bombshell - Unconstiutionality of Rocket Docket Transcript - 10-07-10
http://mattweidnerlaw.com/blog

12. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder Justice Department looking into home foreclosure mess http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/news/article.aspx?feed=OBR&date=20101006&id=12121701

13. New York Times - "Foreclosure Furor Rises; Many Call for a Freeze" www.nytimes.com/2010/10/06/business/06mortgage.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

14. "Freezing Foreclosures" on Good Morning America ABC News - 10-04-10 http://stopforeclosurefraud.com/2010/10/04/must-watch-freezing-foreclosures-on-good-morning-america-abc-news

15. Kentucky RICO Class Action Lawsuit Attacks Foreclosure Fraud - 10-03-10 http://stopforeclosurefraud.com/2010/10/03/kentucky-rico-class-action-involving-merscorp-lps-gmac-deutsche-bank-us-bank-et-al/

16. JPMorgan, Bank of America Face `Hydra' of Foreclosure Probes - Bloomberg 10-06-10 www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-06/jpmorgan-bank-of-america-face-hydra-of-state-foreclosure-investigations.html

17. Huffington Post on Foreclosures - 10-07-10 variety of important updates about the national war against so-called "lenders"
www.huffingtonpost.com/news/foreclosures

- Moratorium NOW - Rep Alan Grayson Petitions the Florida Supreme Court to HALT Foreclosures - - http://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/20/here-we-go-moratorium-now-rep-alan-grayson-petitions-the-florida-supreme-court-to-halt - foreclosures/ .

- American Foreclosure Moratorium Petition. Please sign it now - - www.change.org/petitions/view/usa_national_foreclosure_moratorium_now
[that is Barack Obama's site - the petition is sponsored by his administration].

- BREAKING!!! GMAC Freezing Foreclosures in 23 States to Take Corrective Action
www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-20/gmac-mortgage-halts-home-foreclosures-in-23-states-including-florida-n-y-.html

- Congressional letter to FANNIE MAE regarding "foreclosure mills"
http://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/24/letter-from-rep-alan - grayson-rep-barney-frank-and-rep-corrine-brown-to-fannie-on-foreclosure-mills/

-California Attorney General Brown Directs Ally/GMAC [America's fourth largest lender] to Suspend Foreclosures http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1990

- JPMorgan Suspending Foreclosures - New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/business/30mortgage.html?_r=1

- Bank of America Freezes Foreclosure Actions
www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2010-10-02/bank-of-america-freezes-foreclosure-cases-to-review-documents.html

sopsback said...

no, they wont be anymo fuclosers, but now yo cant sell the house and yo cant borry on it eitehr.

eventually, the next step is they will fogift the dept altoghter.


howver, by that time the house will be worth 10-20% of it valyoo as they go back to asset (gold?) backed currency


on the other hand, this apprioach makes suckas out of every nun now still paying they motgae.


mite as well just slop making pts to the lender. if they can fuclose, why bother payin it??

sopsback said...

anther corction:

if they can fuclose, why bother payin it??


shud be:


if they CANT fuclose, why bother making payts???

sopsback said...

make cents?? or doolas??

sopsback said...

anthter HYIPs getting ready to pay bite the dust because ppls complain to SEC.


this one even just finished taking money for the debit cars for offhsore bnks...Imperia Invest... for $50 it payout %70000


f**k!!



http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2010/lr21686.htm


and here:


http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2010/comp-pr2010-184.pdf



da ppls ho complain shoudl be hang by they b@@ls

sopsback said...

this is gong to be big alright!!


big as a dum a/hole ho ratted imperia out


im dun with deese f****king HYIPs

sopsback said...

MATERIAL MISREPRESENTATIONS AND OMISSIONS


28. Imperia told investors their investments would generate guaranteed returns of
1.2% per day. It is highly improbably that any legitimate investment can guarantee a 1.2% per
day return.



29. In support ofthis misrepresentation, Imperia's website, which was available to the
general public, showed a $50 dollar investment yielding a $134,000 return in a six month period.



30. More specifically, Imperia represented to one investor who invested $150.00 with
Imperia that Imperia owed him $36,610,755.20 within a two year time frame. Another
individual's account statement who invested $500 in July 2007 showed he is owed
$43,907,652.20 as of May 2010.

sopsback said...

Another
individual's account statement who invested $500 in July 2007 showed he is owed
$43,907,652.20 as of May 2010.



LOL!!!


that was me!!


i was gong to split it with burly baal!!


sh*t!!

sopsback said...

$43 f****king milion!!!



can yo bleef it!!



dose greedy SEC batards!!!!

sopsback said...

whey i see dis beffo??/



"artifice to de frost"


now ho can yo defrost artifical ice???


tell yo???


-------

FIRST CAUSE OF ACTION

EMPLOYMENT OF A DEVICE, SCHEME OR ARTIFICE TO DEFRAUD

Violation of Section 17(a)(I) of the Securities Act [15 U.S.c. § 77q(a)(I)]

36. The Commission realleges and incorporates by reference the allegations contained
in Paragraphs 1 though 35, above.
37. Imperia, by engaging in conduct described in Paragraphs 1 though 35, above,
directly or indirectly, in the offer or sale of securities, by the use ofthe means or instruments of
7
transportation or communication in interstate commerce or by use of the mails, with scienter,
employed devices, schemes, or artifices to defraud.
38. By reason of the foregoing, Defendant, directly or indirectly, violated, and unless
restrained and enjoined by this Court, will continue to violate Section 17(a)(1) of the Securities
Act [15 U.S.C. § 77q(a)(l)].
SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION

FRAUD IN THE OFFER AND SALE OF SECURITIES

Violations of Section 17(a)(2) and (3) of the Securities Act

[15 U.S.c. § 77q(a)(2) and (3)]

39. The Commission realleges and incorporates by reference the allegations contained
in Paragraphs 1 though 35, above.

sopsback said...

now cum on??


ho can yo defrost anyone using artificial ice??

tell yo nuttin.

sopsback said...

dat $43 millons was so close, yo could taste it....it like pulling it out yo moth after yo took a bit oout of it...a jew see stake.

paw said...

Judge,

Do you have a number or a link for the office I need to go through? Thanks again.

judge allslop said...

I don't have immediate access and my information may be old. The title company that flaged the problem should be able to give you the detail to solve it. Regards.

sopsback said...

consindince???


Lawyer Caught up in Secret CIA Flights Dies in Lake Oswego

11:22 AM October 7th, 2010 by James Pitkin


Scott Caplan, a Portland lawyer who was caught up in a scandal over flying terror suspects to secret prisons, died this week after suffering a heart attack. He was 49.

As reported in The Lake Oswego Review, Caplan was playing tennis Monday at the Lake Oswego Tennis Center when he collapsed from a heart attack. He died on Tuesday morning.

In 2007, WW reported on Caplan’s ties to the CIA’s so-called “extraordinary rendition” program flying terror suspects to countries that practice torture.

Caplan’s law practice in large part consisted of acting as a registered agent for companies. In 2003 he set up Bayard Foreign Marketing LLC, a company whose listed owner—Leonard T. Bayard—had no official history and didn’t appear to exist.

In 2004, days after reporters blew open the story of the CIA’s secret flights, Bayard bought one of the program’s busiest planes from a company in Dedham, Mass., that reporters determined was a CIA front. The tail number of the Gulfstream V executive jet was changed, but it continued to make flights to countries like Egypt and Iraq.

As reported in WW in 2007:

Caplan gave WW his first interview last week since retired political science professor Michael Munk filed the bar complaint against him Oct. 3. Caplan’s Portland attorney, Christopher Kent, arranged the meeting in his office last Friday but demanded there be no questions about Caplan’s mysterious client. Kent allowed no recording of the interview, and Caplan refused to be photographed.

We walked away from that interview convinced that Caplan had been duped by the CIA, and that he had no idea what he was getting into when he helped create the company.

Our condolences go out to his family.

sopsback said...

dint sum nun, or was it a paster ho sayed:


wha gos round', cums around

sopsback said...

waht??


yo dint take yo plavicks???



it reduce in sin dents of hot tacks.


the tacks always stay cold so yo can yoze dem.

sopsback said...

In foreclosure controversy, problems run deeper than flawed paperwork




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/06/AR2010100607227_pf.html

sopsback said...

yea, like thier gonna invalidate all present and PAST fuclsoers.


so whadoseitmeans???


it mean dat da hole house is cummin' down.


the corts will be clog for years. ppls tring to get they old houses back. it all f*kced up now, fo reel


in stimple langwage, it now

-FUBAR-


F*CKED UP BEYOND ALL REPAIR


so wha hoppens when somethins go FUBAR?


wha hoppens is da hole house be cummin' down.

banks an all. also mean ther will be severe 'dislocations' of goods/transport etc the hole 8 yards.


STARK UP ON YO FOOD/WATER/GUNS

WHEN DAT HOPPENS,IT GONNA GET REAL UGLY, REEL FAST!

sopsback said...

IT TOO FAR BEYOND ANY/ALL REPAIR.


NO HOPE TO KEEP THE SYTEM GOING THE WAY IT IS.

SO IT GONNA CRASH BIG TIME.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE SOCK MARKET WILL ALSO CRASH.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, PENSION FUNDS THAT INVEST IN THE STOCK MARKET WILL BE OFFICIALLY BROKE.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE PESNION CHEKCS WILL STOP.

WEHN THAT HAPPENS, ALL HELL WILL BRAKE LOOSE BUT THERE WILL BE NO BRAKES FOR ANYONE. NOONE CAN PUT ON THE BREAKS TO SLOP IT.

near the end said...

Kurt and Scott signed my quick claim no problem; house is back in my name. No court needed. Got a new loan. No problem. Court is not needed to transfer back into your name and out of trust. Call Dr. Fred he has correct paperwork. You can have it done in a couple weeks.

judge allslop said...

More crime syndicate activity sanctioned and endorsed by Billy Alsups court.


A California student got a visit from the FBI this week after he found a secret GPS tracking device on his car, and a friend posted photos of it online. The post prompted wide speculation about whether the device was real, whether the young Arab-American was being targeted in a terrorism investigation and what the authorities would do.
His discovery comes in the wake of a recent ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals saying it’s legal for law enforcement to secretly place a tracking device on a suspect’s car without getting a warrant, even if the car is parked in a private driveway.
Brian Alseth from the American Civil Liberties Union in Washington state contacted Afifi after seeing pictures of the tracking device posted online and told him the ACLU had been waiting for a case like this to challenge the ruling.
“This is the kind of thing we like to throw lawyers at,” Afifi said Alseth told him.

sopsback said...

at leat they sloop the oil


http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/censored-gulf-news-human-body-parts-washed-up-covered-up-video

sopsback said...

such a nice pic, hate to see it go to waste! :blink:



[img]http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/bush-with-talmud.jpg[/img]


[size="5"][b]MISS ME YET?[/b][/size]

"DONT WORRY!"

I'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER I'M DONE STUDYING THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD.

HA!! AND YOU THOUGHT THAT I WAS A CHRISTIAN! :huh:

FOOLS!!

GEEZ, WITH THE INTERNET AVAILABLE TODAY AND ACCESS TO ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION, I THOUGHT IT WOULD STILL BE HARD TO FOOL 'EM. GUESS I WAS WRONG!!" :P

judge allslop said...

It's come to far to fix even with bribery and Billy Alsup, but it's in the syndicate arsenal why not use it.

WASHINGTON — Wells Fargo is paying $24 million to end an investigation by eight states probing whether lenders acquired by the company made risky mortgages to consumers without disclosing their perils.
The states said loans known as option adjustable rate loans, or “pick-a-payment” mortgages, were deceptive to borrowers. Those particularly toxic loans allowed borrowers to defer some of their interest payments and add them to the principal balance. Borrowers could make payments so low that loan debt actually increased every month. San Francisco-based Wells Fargo & Co. announced the agreement Wednesday with attorneys general in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, Texas and Washington state.
The loans were made by Wachovia Corp. and a California company it acquired, World Savings Bank. Wells purchased Wachovia at the end of 2008. Wachovia had already stopped making those loans before the acquisition was complete.
As part of the agreement, Wells has agreed to offer loan assistance worth more than $770 million to more than 8,700 borrowers through June 2013, though that amount will depend on how the economy fares during that time. The $24 million will be used to help states reach out to customers who took out such loans.

judge allslop said...

This just keeps getting better and better. Banks tried unsuccessfully to kick this up to Billy Alsups fixit and fuckem shop where a little oil applied to the brake pads would help steer the truth off a cliff.

Countrywide / Bank of America Class Action: California

This is the biggest fraud ever in the capital market place.This is not an exaggeration. If anything, it might be an understatement. A class action with a RICO statute was filed against servicers acting for international investment banks foreclosing on loans that represented the collateral for securitized mortgage debt, a fraudulent OTC derivative.(over the counter, meaning without regulation or a clearing house). The banksters tried to sneak through a bill that would make their criminal actions legal. The screams were heard in the White House and before the bill passed all its requirements the President vetoed it. That occurred even before the bill had completed its required procedures. We are now in Crisis #2 which can eclipse anything you have seen yet because of the size of the creation of this pariah in the OTC derivative disaster. This will not pass quietly. It is going to tear the dickens out of what is left of the financial firms that brought the horror to the Western World. It will be orders of magnitude uglier than anything you have seen so far.

sopsback said...

like yo sayed, it dont matta.


nov 8/11 is cumming.

the eequalizer cummin.


it all FUBAR now.

only thins that cuold fix it is god, and he not coming just yet.


yep, it all just FUBAR.

sopsback said...

when somehting beyond all repair, yo cant fix it, so yo got to reboot, mean start all over again.


but it wont be easy.

a lot of blud, sweet an tares go in it.

paw said...

near the end,

how do I get Dr. Freds #. thanks for responding.

judge allslop said...

The System is "more broken than you imagine."
Judges who were completely unsympathetic to borrower defenses and counterclaims are now routinely issuing TRO’s in favor of the homeowner. The whole game has changed, the banks know it and there is nowhere to hide.
A promissory note executed in negotiable form is called “cash equivalent.”
Why would you destroy a perfectly good and authentic $10 bill? Because you told someone it was a $100 bill and now he wants to see it.
Because now someone wants to see the original. Better to say you “lost” it than to admit lying about the transaction. Besides civil fraud it is most probably criminal fraud.
Why would you hire a company to counterfeit the original $10 bill you destroyed?
Because now someone wants to see the original. Better to say you “lost” it than to admit lying about the transaction. Besides civil fraud it is most probably criminal fraud.
What does it mean when someone in possession of the original note destroys the note. In most cases it is an act equivalent to writing “paid in full” on the note.
Send your trustee's a note of thanks for the gift your about to recieve

sopsback said...

Judges who were completely unsympathetic to borrower defenses and counterclaims are now routinely issuing TRO’s in favor of the homeowner.



jugs???


they dont judge sh*t!!


they only doon what they tole to be doon.


they were 'tole' before to rool in fava of da banks,and they did so.

now they beans tole to role in fava of the homeless, so dat what they doon.


later, they will be tole to piss in they shoos and drink from it....


and that will be waht the doo.


LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

judge allslop said...

A media blackout is desired by the banksters, but will not be accomplished in the largest fraud ever in capital markets. There is no way this is going to be swept away from the media now that the Attorney Generals of so many states have taken an interest.If the glove does not fit, you must acquit, if the clear owner cannot be disclosed, you cannot foreclose.

Up to 40 states plan inquiry into foreclosure data
By ALAN ZIBEL (AP) – 11 hours ago

WASHINGTON — The attorneys general of up to 40 states plan to announce soon a joint investigation into banks’ use of flawed foreclosure paperwork. A person briefed on the investigation said Saturday night that an announcement could come as early as Tuesday. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was not yet public. Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller will lead the investigation. Miller already has been leading multistate reviews of questionable foreclosure documents.

sopsback said...

not slow fast....






White House doubts need to halt all foreclosures



WASHINGTON — A top White House adviser questioned the need Sunday for a blanket stoppage of all home foreclosures, even as pressure grows on the Obama administration to do something about mounting evidence that banks have used inaccurate documents to evict homeowners.

"It is a serious problem," said David Axelrod, who contended that the flawed paperwork is hurting the nation's housing market as well as lending institutions. But he added, "I'm not sure about a national moratorium because there are in fact valid foreclosures that probably should go forward" because their documents are accurate.

Axelrod said the administration is pressing lenders to accelerate their reviews of foreclosures to determine which ones have flawed documentation.

"Our hope is this moves rapidly and that this gets unwound very, very quickly," he said.

With the reeling economy already the top issue on voters' minds, the doubts raised over foreclosures and evictions are becoming a political issue with the approach of Nov. 2 elections.

Underscoring those pressures, two leading lawmakers took opposing stances on the wisdom of a moratorium.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., a top House Democrat, said she backed a foreclosure moratorium and government talks with the banking industry to concoct ways to let lenders reshape troubled mortgages. She said the foreclosure problem has been "extremely vexing" in her state.

The No. 2 House Republican, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, said a national moratorium would remove the protections that lenders need.

"You're going to shut down the housing industry" with a national stoppage, Cantor said. "People have to take responsibility for themselves."

In recent days, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in a tough re-election race, urged five large mortgage lenders to suspend foreclosures in his state until they establish ways to make sure homeowners don't lose their homes improperly. Attorney General Eric Holder said that the government is looking into the matter, and Democratic lawmakers urged bank regulators and the Justice Department to probe whether mortgage companies violated laws in handling foreclosures.

The attorneys general of up to 40 states plan to shortly announce a joint investigation into banks' use of flawed foreclosure paperwork, a person familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press late Saturday.

On Friday, Bank of America became the first bank to halt foreclosures in all 50 states. Three other institutions — JPMorgan Chase & Co., Ally Bank's GMAC Mortgage unit and PNC Financial — have stopped foreclosures in the 23 states where foreclosures must be approved by a judge.

President Barack Obama vetoed a bill last week that would have made it easier for banks to approve foreclosure documents, which the White House said could hurt consumers.

Axelrod spoke on CBS' "Face the Nation" while Wasserman Schultz and Cantor appeared on "Fox News Sunday."

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

sopsback said...

speaking of fuclosers...

wha go round, cum round...an da queen gut it cumming...

yo keen? when da last time yo saw sumtin' cummin at yo??

yo titer dan a nones c, i mean a queens cu*t...

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!



Swiss Banks said to be foreclosing on Queen of England

Monday, October 11, 2010



Swiss Banks said to be foreclosing on Queen of England
Swiss Banks are reported to be foreclosing on the Estate of Queen Elizabeth II of England. Public abdication of the British Crown draws nearer. In related actions, the Vatican estate is also understood to be the subject of Swiss-initiated foreclosure. Élite forged documents in London, Rome and Beijing are said to be the catalysts. The veridical papers are held in Zurich

sopsback said...

i wonder if da queen will make dem show her da knot???


i meen da note??

yo qteen, i sho yo da knot, an yo wont even need a atty to see it!!!

all dose yers yo own da proptery, yo probly never see da knot even one time!!

near the end said...

Paw; It's 408-603-8707. He's very helpful and it's an easy fix. Good Luck.

sopsback said...

did yo by a fuclsoer in da last foo yers???


yo may not haf gut da bargin dat yo tawt, like da putty cat.

yo may loze yo house back to da organal owner.

========================




US banks on brink of shutting down all foreclosure procedures in response to biggest fraud in history of capital markets. Banks are paying huge bonuses to people who should be made accountable for fraud.
Within a month, all US home foreclosures executed within the past 2-3 years will be retried, and millions of existing home sales will be put in jeopardy.

sopsback said...

and millions of existing home sales will be put in jeopardy.



i sayed dis da other day. dis stuff gonna coss da hole sytem to cummin down.

it gonna reck havick in da hole cuntry.

get yo guns reddy!!!


ppls gonna walk back to they ole house an nock on da doe and say:

"yo, dis my house!!! wha yo doon here!?

"get da f*ck out my house!!!"


"NOW!!!"

sopsback said...

http://www.henrymakow.com/understanding_money.html

judge allslop said...

Pass the buck if you want but Professional criminals never leave a paper trail, They unlike most understand what FRAUD is.


Citigroup Stops Using Foreclosure Law Firm Facing Florida Probe
By Dakin Campbell and Donal Griffin – Oct 12, 2010 5:34 AM MT

Citigroup Inc. said it stopped steering foreclosure work to a Florida law firm whose court filings to support home seizures are under investigation by the state’s attorney general. The bank, which is proceeding with seizures as some rivals stop to recheck documents, had used the Law Offices of David J. Stern PA. Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum said Aug. 10 it is examining whether Stern and two other firms filed “improper documentation” with the state’s courts to speed proceedings.
“Pending the outcome of the AG’s investigation, Citi is not referring new matters to this firm,” the New York-based bank said in an e-mailed statement. Citigroup services loans for government-sponsored entities, such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Stern “was approved by the GSEs during the time in which it was retained by Citi,” the bank said.

judge allslop said...

Not only are the pension funds below water on their commitments, but they are not worth what they say they are because of being stuffed to the eyeballs with OTC derivative securitized mortgage debt instruments now with extremely questionable collateral.
It is said revenge is a dish best served cold. Perhaps Mr Alsups pension could vanish overnight due to the very actors he tried to protect.

US Cities Face Half a Trillion Dollars of Pension Deficits
Published: Tuesday, 12 Oct 2010 | 5:32 AM ET
By: Nicole Bullock, Financial Times

Big US cities could be squeezed by unfunded public pensions as they and counties face a $574 billion funding gap, a study to be released on Tuesday shows.

The gap at the municipal level would be in addition to $3,000 billion in unfunded liabilities already estimated for state-run pensions, according to research from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University and the University of Rochester.

sopsback said...

yo sayed it....


da hole house be cummin' down soon....berry berry soon.....

an when it cum down, yo dont wonna be anyway near it!


just acks burly baal?

sopsback said...

it be cummin down like a big load gong in jug beans eye, like a big omlit, without the yokes!!


LOLOOLOLOLOL!!!!!

judge allslop said...

Guess who is the majority stockholder in MERS.


NEW YORK – JPMorgan Chase’s CEO says the bank has stopped using the electronic mortgage tracking system used by major financial institutions.

Lawyers have argued in court proceedings that the system is unable to accurately prove ownership of mortgages. JPMorgan Chase & Co. and other banks have suspended some foreclosures following allegations of paperwork problems in thousands of cases.

sopsback said...

Last night I had a conversation that lasted until about midnight with someone from out of town visiting from California. He is going to see if an attorney out there will change the docs to California Law. During our conversation I brought up a few points I decided I would share with all of you.

1. Never in the history of the US since the second civil war has the government ever sided with the people against the banks. It is important to remember that there is a war going on in this country between people that want to be free and the banks that want to take control of this country. The government will side with the banks, they always have and always will.

The billions of dollars they stole from us and handed over to the banks prove that conclusively. The government could have spent 10% of that amount and bought all of our homes and gave them to us and we would have been way ahead of the game. They chose to steal 10 times as money from us and leave us wallowing in the mud to help the banks.

DO NOT EVER FORGET THAT!! And don't misunderstand that. It was never about helping the people or the country, it was ONLY about making sure the banks would win.

2. Politicians always tell their best lies before an election. Everything you see going on right now is B.S., nothing more. Nothing counts until after the election. They are just lying and playing with us because they know we won't remember who screwed us a month from now. HR3808, the attorney general letters, the states claiming they will help us is all B.S. to get them re-elected. After the election they will go back to work for the banks. WAKE AND SMELL THE COFFEE,

YOU ARE BEING DUPED AGAIN. DO NOT FALL FOR IT THIS TIME. DON'T RE-ELECT

COT'D

sopsback said...

3. There is a lot of talk about why the banks are halting foreclosures. Let me remind you that I dispersed the Replevin and then the Motion to Sequester the Note before any of that happened. Those two documents are scaring the hell out the banks and the judges. They know the law requires the Note to be cancelled once the foreclosure occurs. The banks do not care about the houses, the lawyers are the ones stealing your home. The banks need the Notes. Thats it, do not lose sight of that. They are waiting for some ruling or law created that makes it so they do not have to cancel the Note. If they get such a law this country is toast and the bankers will complete their coup'd tat of America.

4. We have found the direct link to the bribery of the judges. It is the pension funds. The state funds are so vested in real estate the judges pension funds are disappearing quicker than you wallet does when a politician enters the room. Everyone need to research their county pension funds for judges. It took me less than an hour to obtain the proof that the pension funds in Maricopa County are going broke and that the judges need to save the banks to save their own retirement.

5. A new problem, at least in Maricopa County. The pension funds are moving toward investing in private prisons. That means if the judges can't save their retirment by helping the banks they will need to start putting more innocent people in prison. If you don't believe that judges will convict innocent people to improve their retirement and porfolio then you have not spent enough time in court.

6. EVERYONE NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND SHOW UP. If you are more worried about your vacation or days off you are helping them kill us all. Spend your time researching stuff. Help convert the docs to your state laws and post them on the website. Do it for free. Do it to save your country. Do it to save your family. If you don't, you will wish you had.

cot'd

sopsback said...

7. For all those bastards charging money to sell their "secrets and patriot mythology bullshit" GO TO HELL!!!!! Everyone remember the names of those trying to get rich off of our suffering by selling their lies and other crap. They are not just the enemy, they are the worst form of scum. If everything does go to hell, remember to thank them personally. They are hurting us more than the corrupt judges and politicians.

In closing, you all need to understand this is a war of attrition. The goeverment as always has chosen to help the banks instead of the people. Do not rely on the government, they are here strictly to protect the banks. I cannot find one instance in the last 130 years where the government chose to help the people at the expense of the banks, it is no different now. The crap you are being told by politicians is lip service so you will put your guard down. If you listen you will be screwed.

Please say a prayer for me, I have court tomorrow for the frame job they are doing on me. They want me stopped and may imprison or kill me to stop me.

Good luck everyone,

sopsback said...

If they get such a law this country is toast and the bankers will complete their coup'd tat of America.



doesnt matter, one way the other...wather they get a law or not passed...


its cummin' down my friend....sit back an watch it fall like the twix towers did...only dis time, witout any splosives.

sopsback said...

clif high webbots taken


****OFFLINE***


for real.


www.halfpasthuman.com


his ISP just cut him off and wont tell him why?


did he piss off the zoinist ptb with his last message???


his last report said that nov. 8-11 was an event 10-1000X bigger than 9/11


he also said that it was the end of the zionist power in the usa.


he had also written that if you dont hear from him anymore, that he was concern about his life

look what happen to matt simmons for reporting the truth about the gulg oil lake


follow his story here:


http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&p=312078

sopsback said...

someone also wrote that his report was taken OFFLINE exactly


9 years

9 months

9 days

after 9/11

judge allslop said...

Two other HERO'S knew long before, the truth about BANK MORTGAGE FRAUD.


How 2 civilian sleuths brought foreclosure problems to light
By Tony Pugh | McClatchy Newspapers

PALM BEACH, Fla. — More than a year before lenders, law firms and document companies began owning up to widespread paperwork problems with their foreclosure filings, Lisa Epstein and Michael Redman already knew that something was wrong — very wrong.

sopsback said...

was even the chili miners a psyops event??


you wouldnt thik so, rith??


but consider?


33 minders, a lou minardi nimber

ho ole was christ wehn he dyed??

they dissented into hell, and then rose again.

ho else did dat??

the guy ho cum up even said that he saw da deville and god an dat god won.

they cummed up at 11:11 pm time.


one guy was singin and dancin wehn he cum up.

yo thik that they wuld all be a little tired and oxygin deprive to do dat??

they only had 2 days worth of food that they make last for 17 days??


oh, yes they only had 2 loafs of bred but feed the hole bunch of them for weeks....


yes, this hole big story was anther syops opertion by da ptb's.


yo cant even bleef a sad story anymore...

so that meens that yo cnat bleef anything that rported on tv at all

sopsback said...

Mr. XXXX and friends,

Regarding the Copiapo, Chilean miners rescue, explain these oddities to me:

First off, I thank Christ Jesus and Mother Mary for bringing these men back to their families.

1) What does NASA have to do with rescuing miners? NEVER have I seen NASA in any prior trapped mining situtions. To formulate a special diet and drinks? And why haven't they ever helped any other mining past accident with a diet before? NO. NASA is there for another reason

2) The Chilean government told the miners that they have a gag order not to say a thing to the public of what saw down there.

3) The first miner that was rescued at the time of 11:11 PM and his last name was Silver, and that guy looked really, really, strangely emotionless(given the fact that no calming pills were allowed to be given to the miners).

4) After miners rescued they moved to a mobile hospital nearby from there they will be moved to a "MILITARY INSTALLATION" for a check up and from there to a normal hospital

Now why do they need to be sent to a military installation for check up? When in the history of mining accidents have the miners been taken to a militray installation after the hospital stop?

5) The rescuing apparatus is named the "Phoenix," a mythological Satanic bird of the cults of Baal exclusively known in masonry and Satanic cults.

6) "Copiapó UFO sighting. Copiapó was said to be the site of an unidentified flying object sighting in 1864. According to researcher Chris Aubeck,[12] the story first appeared in print in the March 18, 1868 issue of the newspaper El Constituyente, which was itself cited in the journal The Zoologist then in Lo!, a 1931 book by American investigator Charles Fort. Fort's account was the basis of a later account in Anatomy of a Phenomenon (1965) by ufologist Jacques Vallee."

Aubeck reports that the original newspaper article described the object as "an enormous bird."

THE GRAND TOTAL OF FACTS: Pheonix is rescuing them 33 miners 00:11 on 13/10/10. When have you ever seen such global media fanfare for a mining operation?

sopsback said...

ye, da hole 34 minahs story stincks....


no doubt anther 'gaffer'..ie., bs planned opertion....


dun worry, eventually one of the minahs will sing like a byrd, minus the bs

sopsback said...

i gutta get a noo dictonary of cinnamus or is it homonis so i can make sum hot choclit...or is it anthonyms's??

even anthony cant figure it out???

sopsback said...

o dats write, it hummus, yo make it wit garbanzo beans.

judge allslop said...

If you permit fraud the law says you have committed fraud. It is called conspiracy. Won't an apology suffice?

I need your help. I’m sending a letter to the Director of the FBI and to Central Florida’s U.S. Attorney asking them to prosecute banks that foreclose illegally on homeowners. Will you sign on, and send a message that rampant criminality and lawlessness by big banks and ‘foreclosure mills’ should end in jail time?(HOW ABOUT FEDERAL JUDGES?) Will you add your name to this letter?
I will send this letter, along with all of the cosigners and your comments, to the Director of the FBI and to Central Florida’s U.S. Attorney.

Alan Grayson

sopsback said...

it alreedy bean dun.


da jibroney generals fo all 50 stats are singed into a complaint on da banks.


waht if anthins cum of it, ho nose???

sopsback said...

For those interested in Trusts, here is an excellent recorded conference call with Dr. Fred recorded in July, 2010.

IF you like Dr. Fred, you will enjoy this recording, it over 4hrs. of Dr. Fred providing info and answering callers questions.

Enjoy!


https://app.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?cn=51-87-32-24&e=1320033600000&cid=conferences/-17-65-6721-17-65-67-17-65-6792-17-65-674898996213299-17-65-67.mp3

sopsback said...

the link did not show up as posted, so here it is again broken down in very small pieces.


https://app.free
conferencecallhd.
com/playback.html
?cn=51-87-32-24&e=1320033600000&cid=conferences/-
17-65-6721-17-65-
67-17-65-6792-17-
65-67489899621329
9-17-65-67.mp3

sopsback said...

btw- he also gives some info about himself that most probably didnt/dont know, even those involved with the dg ;-)

judge allslop said...

The message could not be more clear. So long as you make lots of tax revenue (and money for yourself), it’s ok to rip people off, subvert justice and mislead courts and we won’t send you to prison even though your conduct is felonious.


By JOHN R. EMSHWILLER And KARA SCANNELL
Angelo Mozilo, the former head of Countrywide Financial Corp. and the highest-ranking corporate executive to be accused of wrongdoing in the housing crisis, agreed to pay $67.5 million in penalties to settle civil fraud and insider-trading charges. But most of Mr. Mozilo's financial obligations likely will be paid by Countrywide's current owner, Bank of America Corp., as part of indemnification agreements it has with former officers. Countrywide was sold to BofA as it was collapsing in 2008. Mr. Mozilo and two other former top Countrywide executives reached the settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission days before their civil trial was set to start in federal court in Los Angeles. The settlement, in which Mr. Mozilo neither admitted or denied wrongdoing, will avoid the possibility that incriminating evidence would come out during the trial that could help criminal investigators who are still probing Mr. Mozilo's actions.

judge allslop said...

How do you defraud the investor without defrauding the borrower?
They were both sold an empty box, so here’s what I expect will happen. The lame duck session of Congress will pass a bill that essentially papers over the misdeeds of the banks that originated mortgage securities. Every member of Congress and every Senator who has been voted out of office will cast a vote for the bill. And the President will sign it. There will be no rule of law left in America. If wall street does not have to follow the law, why should main street?


Bank of America Re-Remics Cut Mortgage Debt as Basel Rules Loom
By Miles Weiss and David Mildenberg – Oct 14, 2010

Bank of America Corp., seeking to reduce risk and meet new capital standards, upgraded billions of dollars of distressed mortgage bonds by repackaging them into new securities using a variation of a Wall Street technique that failed during the credit crisis. The transactions, known as re-remics, are designed to add a layer of protection to residential mortgage-backed securities that sustained losses, enabling them to regain investment-grade ratings. The strategy helped the bank pare its RMBS holdings by $5.2 billion in the second quarter, or about 15 percent, according to a company filing. With bank stocks mired near historic lows in relation to book value, firms such as Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase & Co. are searching for alternative ways to meet rules set by global regulators since the 2008 financial crisis. By turning junk-rated securities into investment-grade bonds, Bank of America will need to hold less capital under rules agreed to by the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision.

judge allslop said...

This satement from a defendent pretty much sums up this gigantic pile of shit.

"Corruption is rampant: Judges, lawyer, brokers, appraisals, underwriters, bankers,wall street……
No wonder we didn’t have a chance.
We contested but our judge did not care nor did he even bother to look through our file.
What kind of justice is that?
JUDGES need to be investigated, as well as be accountable for their negligence."

mogel007 said...

Here is a very good video you should watch....

http://www.youtube.com/v/9yhZBgi5NOg&hl

From the moment the Titanic hit the iceberg, that ship was doomed to sink, but more than 99% of the passengers didn't realize it at the time and continued their activities as is everything was normal.

I submit to you today that just like the events on the Titanic, the U.S. banking system has ALREADY HIT the iceberg, but more than 99% of the public don't currently realize it, and continue their activities as is everything is normal.

Everything isn't normal.
The banking system is doomed to collapse.

The giant financial firms have destroyed
the banking system in the U.S.

The crisis is centered around MERS, the Mortgage Electronic Registration System created by Wall Street to record ownership of mortgages electronically in order to avoid having to physically record mortgage documents in counties all over the United States.

The problem is that the law REQUIRES the recording of original documents in local registry of deeds (this is called different names in different counties.)

Wall Street packaged up literally trillions of dollars in mortgage loans and sold them to pension funds, insurance companies, mutual funds, and foreign governments and did not record who purchased what mortgage.

The problem is that those securities packaged by Wall Street were supposed to be "mortgage-backed" securities.

Because Wall Street did not follow the requirements of the law, those securities are actually "nothing-backed" securities, and the owners of those securities have no legal right to foreclose on a home when the homeowner fails to pay the mortgage payments.

This is a multiple trillion dollar problem,
with no easy solution.

And to make matters worse, the Wall Street firms have hired former Burger King and Wall Mart workers to pretend to be lawyers and sign phony legal documents, complete with phony notarized signatures and stamps, to try to convince the courts that they have a legal right to foreclose even though they have no legal right to do so.

What would happen to you or I if we forged documents, affixed a false notorization to it, and submitted it to the court as "evidence?"

We'd be in jail.

This entire "robo-signing" scam is just a
fraud to hide an even bigger fraud.



I said in webinars last week that this is at least a $6 trillion dollar problem. One attorney in today's video claims it is a $45.5 trillion dollar problem, and he doesn't believe the U.S. Government has enough money or the ability to bail out Wall Street yet again.

I agree.

Nor should Wall Street be bailed out. THEY SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR THEIR CRIMES!

This is a mess of epic proportions, and I am very confident that our political leaders will do the exact wrong thing, which will make the problem even worse.

They've already passed a law that basically requires the courts to accept and honor the forged documents! That's absolutely insane.

The investors who bought the faulty mortgage packages from Wall Street are now starting to bring their cases to court to force Wall Street to buy back the mortgage backed securities that are faulty, which is basically 60% of all mortgages originated in the last decade.

Wall Street doesn't have the money to buy them back.

Nor does the government.

Our banking system has hit the iceberg, and it's only a matter of time before it sinks. It can't afford a $6 trillion dollar hit, let alone a $45 trillion one.

I hope you're prepared, disaster lies dead ahead.

sopsback said...

ho did yo enjoy dr. flintstons conval essence call???

sopsback said...

did yo trust in him??

sopsback said...

in god we trust, er, i meen in DR. FLINTSTON WE TRUST.



wehres fred??

sopsback said...

in case yo miss it, it can still be fund here:



https://app.free
conferencecallhd.
com/playback.html
?cn=51-87-32-24&e=1320033600000&cid=conferences/-
17-65-6721-17-65-
67-17-65-6792-17-
65-67489899621329
9-17-65-67.mp3

sopsback said...

dunno bout yo, but i like dr. fred flinstone.

sopsback said...

an i luv wilma too!!

judge allslop said...

Set up a system sure to fail, sell it to the world, insure and bet against it,break every commerce law in the book, lie, cheat,steal to perpetuate the fraud ridden pile of pure crap securitized mortgage debt which is now larger than two trillion dollars. Should have settled with Dorean and fixed the system you had the chance. What next, an "emergency banking holiday?"


Class action lawsuit against the MERS system for mortgage holding
October 14th, 2010 11:31 am ET

A class action lawsuit by citizens vs MERS and numerous banks depicting fraud and unfair practices has been filed in the state courts of Kentucky. This Class Action Suit is the best summary of the way foreclosure fraud works, how huge profits are made by foreclosing rather than modifying, and why servicers would rather foreclose than modify.

Here is a breakdown of the items listed in the lawsuit:

1. Sub-Prime Mortgages were made designed to default.

2. These Mortgages are packaged into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) and sold to ‘investors’.

3. MBS packagers and Investors take out Credit Default Swaps (Insurance – remember AIG?) that pays off up to 10x the mortgage amount upon default.

judge allslop said...

Here is the holy grail of the "Scheme and artifice to defraud" .How many times was a mortgage sold at ten times value? 5,10,100 times? I'm quite certain we will never know.


By FLOYD NORRIS
Published: October 18, 2010

Was the great securitization machine that made hundreds of billions of dollars in mortgage loans based on a legal foundation of sand? That possibility, raised by two law school professors, has begun to scare many jittery investors, causing bank stocks to plummet, although they recovered a little Monday. If they are correct, the best outcome for lenders would be a prolonged delay in completing foreclosures, raising costs still further and paralyzing an already depressed housing market. The worst outcome would be a conclusion that errors by financial institutions had decoupled the payment promises made by borrowers from the mortgages they signed. In that case, the mortgages would be invalid. Homes could be sold without paying off lenders. There also could be heavy tax consequences for lenders, both in terms of federal income taxes and in payment of back fees for mortgage registrations to local governments across the country.
The arguments involve MERS, the Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, which was created to smooth the securitization process and, in the process, to allow lenders to avoid paying registration fees to counties each time the mortgage changed hands.

mogel007 said...

A new critique, published as a chapter in the new textbook "Calendars and Years II: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient and Medieval World" (Oxbow Books, 2010), argues that the accepted conversions of dates from Mayan to the modern calendar may be off by as much as 50 or 100 years.

So much for the end of the world in 2012. LOL

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20101019/sc_livescience/endoftheearthpostponed

mogel007 said...

You forgot steps 4-5 of the lawsuit explanation:

4. Government bails out AIG.

5. Taxpayers pay for bail out in the long run. So the consumer/borrowers/slaves get screwed again after being foreclosed & becoming homeless.

sopsback said...

the guy ho write dat is etter an cumpeat idoit or a pattern distinfro agnet.

jimmy noone said tat da world is gong to end by 2012.


but its going to be a hell of alot different than it is toddy.


we have still entered the age of aquarius have we not??


or are the asstrolical calanders off by a 100 yers too???


and the end game yet has not been heard from on the gulf oil leak...i expect that yo will be hearing results from that very soon

sopsback said...

and yo still havent hard yet from the event of nov. 8-11 next moth that is gong to be 10-1000 more impack than 9/11 was.


talk to me after that and see wha hoppens.


also a big solar flap is cummin on oct 28/9

see what it brins??

dun worry, big thins are cumming


will they be good or bad??


like burly baal say:


"dunno"

sopsback said...

i am starting to think that the webbots for nov. 8-11 may itself actually be a 'false flag' operation.

this ploy may actually be used to 'flush out' any remaining 'terrorists'


how it does that?


by announcing a 'sure bet' date that something big is going ot happen, then like the drill on 9/11 which turned out to be real, then this date can be used by 'terrorists/govt agents' to attempt a false flag operation.

if this date and nearby ones pass and nothing happens, its a pretty good bet that they have flushed out all the remaining terrorist agents. not 100%, as you can truly never be sure, but maybe 90% sure.


similar to the air force one when it buzzzed the statue of liberty in ny a while back.

you can be sure that the govt planted the info to those whom they may have suspected may try something to be able to use that event as a cover.

nothing obviously happened.

same deal here.

a false flag 'terrorist' would naturally try to use this date to camo what he may be trying to do.


see?

no bias here, i call em' as i see em.


at this point, i am still not convinced howver that there is nothing to the 2011/12 scenario.

i therefore expect major changes t happen, altho obviously not the "end of the world"...whatever that in fact means????

the planet will still be orbiting the sun.


maybe the CERN atom smasher goes haywire???

creates anti matter or particles taht they have no bizness making, tampering with god creations himself.


possilby.

mogel007 said...

FBI looking at foreclosure mess

As much as the big banks want to end the mess and move on; as much as the country NEEDS this mess to be over, it looks like it's around for a while. Attorneys general in all 50 states are jointly investigating whether lenders violated state laws, lawyers for evicted homeowners are preparing lawsuits against major lenders, state judges have signaled they will review the banks' foreclosure documents with skepticism, and lawmakers on Capitol Hill plan to hold hearings. On top of all that, now and unnamed official has told CNBC that the FBI is in the initial stages of trying to determine whether the financial industry may have broken criminal laws in the mortgage foreclosure crisis. The law enforcement official says the question is whether some in the industry were acting with criminal intent or were simply overwhelmed by events in the wake of the housing market's collapse.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is just getting under way. Hundreds of judges around the country have the authority to penalize bank officials who violate their procedural rules. They could also force thousands of foreclosure cases to go to full trials rather than issue a quick ruling. Judges won't take well to banks that filed erroneous documents with their courts, said Indiana Attorney General Greg Zoeller. "There could be some serious consequences," including criminal charges, Zoeller said. Even if there aren't, lawsuits are likely to continue for years, said Guy Cecala, publisher of trade publication Inside Mortgage Finance. "Some of these plaintiffs' attorneys clearly smell blood in the water," Cecala said.

mogel007 said...

"I didn't mind doing the time (5yrs. 8mon.) for a crime I didn't commit but I did mind the hypocrisy of the mortgage industry doing everyday what the government convicted me of and there being no interest."

It seems now finally that there is a lot of interest on this subject. What government agencies aren't getting involved now in some way. This fraud has touched us all. It appears that this is what it takes in order to change things, a serious interest on this subject that is finally being investigated seriously. This is a change in the right direction.

sopsback said...

It appears that this is what it takes in order to change things, a serious interest on this subject that is finally being investigated seriously.



it will take more than this to fix things...

this is only the tip of the iceberg....if they dont change the fractonal reserve baking sytem, the whole mess will just start all over again


and how are they going to forgive all the debt of student loans to kids who even with a degree will be lucky to get a job in mcdonalds or taco belle or mixing lattes in starbux

mogel007 said...

Wednesday, October 20, 2010

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/10/foreclosure-expert-confirms-mortgages.

Foreclosure Expert Confirms Mortgages Pledged Multiple Times, Not Actually Securitized, Document Problem Is Really a System of "Push-Button Fraud"

Yesterday, I showed that mortgages were fraudulently pledged to multiple buyers at the same time.

Today, foreclosure expert Neil Garfield (former investment banker, trial lawyer and board member of several financial institutions) confirms this, explains that the loans were not actually securitized, and the whole "sloppy paperwork" excuse is really an attempt to explain away a system of push-button fraud:

The game was to move money under a scheme of deceit and fraud. First sell the bonds and collect the money into a pool. Second take your fees, third take what’s left and get it committed into “loans” (which were in actuality securities) sold to homeowners under the same false pretenses as the bonds were sold to investors. By controlling the flow of funds and documentation, the middlemen were able to sell, pledge and otherwise trade off the flow of receivables several times over — a necessary complexity not only for the profit it generated, but to make it far more difficult for anyone to track the footprints in the sand.

If the loans had actually been securitized, the issue would not arise. They were not securitized. This was a mass illusion or hallucination induced by Wall Street spiking the punch bowl. The gap (second tier yield spread premium) created between the amount of money funded by investors and the amount of money actually deployed into “loans” was so large that it could not be justified as fees. It was profit on sale from the aggregator to the “trust” (special purpose vehicle). It was undisclosed, deceitful and fraudulent.

mogel007 said...

Thus the “credit enhancement” scenario with tranches, credit default swaps and insurance had to be created so that it appeared that the gap was covered. But that could only work if the parties to those contracts claimed to have the loans. And since multiple parties were making the same claim in these side contracts and guarantees, counter-party agreements etc. the actual documents could not be allowed to appear nor even be created unless and until it was the end of the road in an evidential hearing in court. They used when necessary “copies” that were in fact fabricated (counterfeited) as needed to suit the occasion. You end up with lawyers arriving in court with the “original” note signed in blue (for the desired effect on the Judge) when it was signed in black — but the lawyer didn’t know that. The actual original is either destroyed (see Katherine Porter’s 2007 study) or “lost.” In this case “lost” doesn’t mean really lost. It means that if they really must come up with something they will call an original they will do so.

So the reason why the paperwork is all out of order is that there was no paperwork. There only entries on databases and spreadsheets. The loans were not in actuality assigned to any one particular trust or any one particular bond or any one particular individual or group of investors. They were “allocated” as receivables multiple times to multiple parties usually to an extent in excess of the nominal receivable itself. This is why the servicers keep paying on loans that are being declared in default. The essential component of every loan that was never revealed to either the lenders (investors) nor the borrowers (homeowner/investors) was the addition of co-obligors and terms that neither the investor nor the borrower knew anything about. The “insurance” and other enhancements were actually cover for the intermediaries who had no money at risk in the loans, but for the potential liability for defrauding the lenders and borrowers.

The result, as anyone can plainly see, is that the typical Ponzi outcome — heads I win, tails you lose.

***

So the paperwork was carefully created and crafted to cover the tracks of theft. Most of the securitization paperwork remains buried such that it takes search services to reach any of them. The documents that were needed to record title and encumbrances was finessed so that they could keep their options open when someone made demand for actual proof. The documents were not messed up and neither was the processing. They were just keeping their options open, so like the salad oil scandal, they could fill the tank that someone wanted to look into.

sopsback said...

so by now everyone knows that the banks were involved in fraud.

even those who dont know, by now are all losing their houses to f/c, so even tho they do not udnerstand fractonal reserve banking, fed resv, etc., they know enuf that their houses are being lost and they will join any fight to save it, whether or not they really understand it.


so then, the question really becomse, what is actually being done to "fight" the f/c mess and/or prevent ppl from losing thier houses to f/c by the banks?


ans. 'nothing'


the ptb always are one step ahead and always use a "distraction" to keep ahead.

so now they got some sham action by 50 states a/g's to do something.


nothing will come of it.

its all just a boondoggle to keep ppl occupied with shit thats never going to matter.

after all, the "courts" are really just private entities themselves, so like the fed res, they are not going ot side with the public.

any by using govt. appointed "attorney generals" that fact is guaranteed.


NOHTING IS GOING TO BE DONE.



yes, there will be some 'token' victories that they can put up on the nighlty news, and then make it go away.


"...see folks, we did something for you..."


yea, right!!!

sopsback said...

"...see folks, we did something for you..."


yea, right!!!



key word/concept for the ptb is...


"pacify"



"we'll give 'em some bogus investigation/expose until it dies down and then....nothing will ever come of it"

"we can even call it the 'warren commission on foreclosuers, and we know where that led, nowhere, because everyone alrady knew that oswald did, we tole em"


LOLOLOLO!!!!!!!



next....we'll move on to the next scam.

sopsback said...

the question then becomse, waht is all this going to lead to??


even a person who does not possess an IQ of 162 like dr. fred, can see that this 'boondoggle' simply cannot go on forever.


somethng has got to give??


what then???


good question.

i am certain that the ptb have some 'event' planned to create anotehr 'distraction' for when the appropriate time comes....count on it.

now it may not actually be during the nov. 8-11 hotspot time of thet webbots, but you can bet your dg settlement, it wont be much longer after that.

sopsback said...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-official-says-banks-can-apf-671089494.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode=


NY to hold lawyers accountable on foreclosures

NEW YORK (AP) -- The chief judge of New York's courts on Wednesday imposed a new rule requiring lawyers handling foreclosures to verify that all paperwork is accurate.





right!!


soemthng about the fox guarding the chick coop??


"...yes, your honor, we verifed all the dox, they all be accurate as can be, ;-) yes yo ho..."

sopsback said...

just like yo said, it all be a sham transaction....nothing changed. ppls still lossing they houses



ya know in anthoer way, its almost like theyre trying to see how far they have to go to incite the ppl to revolt in the streets like france?


foreclsoe on everyone, tax the shit out of everyone, impose a 1% transaction tax on all bank transactions, ie., you cash a check, you write a check, you deposit money, you withdraw money. mtgs, loans, etc


any tranaction at a bank taht involves money will be taxed at 1% on the spot.


i think that next is outright confiscation of your assets


and i still dont beleive that the ppl will react or revolt.

theyve already done like germany did, put too much flouride in the water to make ppl pliable to change


of course, it could be biblical too.


we know taht they ptb are trying to break the back of the zionist stronghold in this country and that this cannot be done while there is stability and status quo.


if they can somehow cause the ppl to revolt, then the show is over for the zionists.


after all, the zionists are not the 'boots on the ground' so their mansions in beverly hills means nothing at that point. it may just wind up being a high rent "soldiers quarters" aka saddlams palace when the the u.s. govt raided iraq.

if this is the case, then its still possible that the nov. 8-11 hot date could be in play.

sopsback said...

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sopsback said...

This issue covers from October 27th 2010 through to Summer 2011....


LOL!!!

summer 2011


DUN WORRY, IT WILL BE LONG OVA BY THEN!

fireinthehole said...

moglel007 said:

"What government agencies aren't getting involved now in some way? This fraud has touched us all. It appears that this is what it takes in order to change things, a serious interest on this subject that is finally being investigated seriously. This is a change in the right direction."


They will simply consolidate the whole mortgage mess, maybe by changing the law in some way that make it easier for the banks to foreclose. After all, all that is happening in a mortgage "loan" is the bank is loaning their credit. That has never been allowed under U.S. law, yet that's what the banks have been doing since the 1920s. People are still clueless as to what the real law in this country is (American law, not UCC/Law Merchant) and that in and of itself gives the banks and the so-called government the advantage over the entire system- not just banking.

sopsback said...

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sopsback said...

just days before the shit gonna the fan...

near the end said...

Paw did u get a hold of Fred and did he help u out?

sopsback said...

if youve listened to the audio with dr. fred, he may be a hard person to find if he did as he said he was going to?

in that july 30 audio recording on trusts, dr. fred said that withing 40 days god willing, he was going to get a mobile home and travel around to minsiter to ppl.


dont knwo if he would up doing that??


does anyone else know??

sopsback said...

btw, i am not implying at all that he is running away from anything, the dg or anything else, just that its obvioulsy just a bit harder to contact someone who would be constatnly on the road.


even with a cell, there are dead spots that he may be at teh time that you call him.


and obvioulsly, email is not as reliable on the road for the same reasons.

and somehow, i dont thnk that dr. fred is going to conduct private business at a internet cafe'

near the end said...

I talked to him last week. He's staying put and answering calls.

He's easy to get in touch with and he's always returned my calls within 24 hours.

near the end said...

I talked to him last week. He's staying put and answering calls.

He's easy to get in touch with and he's always returned my calls within 24 hours.

near the end said...

I talked to him last week. He's staying put and answering calls.

He's easy to get in touch with and he's always returned my calls within 24 hours.

near the end said...

I talked to him last week. He's staying put and answering calls.

He's easy to get in touch with and he's always returned my calls within 24 hours.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

btw, did you listen to the audio of him on trusts as was posted?

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...
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sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...

ok then, glad to hear it.


i guess that he didnt get a mobile home and go around minstering as he said he would.

sopsback said...
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sopsback said...

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sopsback said...

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sopsback said...

pete and repete


is that like pete moss or randy moss??

sopsback said...

btw- thats what burly baal did.


he went "on the road" to minstral to ppls.


he went to mexico to do this.

now he minstrals and pays his bills by investing and selling HYIPs to ppl


altho, i dont think that you can sell scam HYIPs to ppl and then say that you are giving ministry to them.....more like minestrone, cold.

sopsback said...

btw, also what happened to all the ppls who used to frequent this blog before?

years ago even?

are they all gone?


did they get their settlemints already?


seems like theyve all despaired over the years...i mean disappeared.


maybe you can check some of the 100's of 'tent cities' that sprung up across the country??

maybe their they're there???

sopsback said...

you can still get your settlemint even if your living in a tent city, right?


i mean as long as youve got your bank account, you dont necessarily need a permanent address, right?

you can be slepping in a trash container, it doesnt make any difference, as long as you have your banking in place, right?

sopsback said...

seems like theyve all despaired over the years...i mean disappeared.


now dont despair or disaper either.


after all, this whole dg thing was never about the money? right?


it was never even about saving your house? right?


no.


it was all just a 'spiritual thing'


you should have learned some bible verses, right?


isnt that why you singes up for the dg, right?


somehow, i'll bet that you didnt learn anything, right?

sopsback said...

isnt that why you singes up for the dg, right?


correction:

should read,

"isnt that why you signed up for the dg, right?

sopsback said...

ok, so then tell me what youve learned?

sopsback said...

but now, if after all these years, SOP is still around, what does that tell you??

sopsback said...

maybe he has some spiritual power that you dont understand....yet....

sopsback said...

maybe he was even right about a few things that he said....

sopsback said...

and what amongst the many things, was one of the main things that he said from the beginning of this blog, and before that to those who knew him???


have no one (earthly person)as your spiritual authority but the holy spirit...ie., that means no priest, pastor, minister, deacon, bishop, pope...anyone in a human body.


its now become entirely obvious, all those who had made predictions about the complettion of the dg, due to their getting a vision, info, a word, a message, etc were all wrong completely...obviously then, these were/are all phonies and should not be accepting donations from hard working ppl to support their "ministry"

you may as well just feed the pigeons or homeless in the street before you give any of these money..esp. that woman "pastor" who gave kurt mountains of incorrect dates/advice/'guidance'/etc...


a "prophtess" of the highest order, no doubt...


correction:

a "profitess" of the highest order, no doubt...


ok, lessons are learned the hard way. understood.

sopsback said...

its now become entirely obvious, all those who had made predictions about the complettion of the dg, due to their getting a vision, info, a word, a message, etc were all wrong completely..



this statement needs clarification.


all those whove made predictions of the dg completion by a certain date.

not that the dg wont be completed, it will, but they gave dates about it, all wrong.

sopsback said...

also remember, that SOP also made 4 predictions of importance...


1. large corporations were coming down.. they have.

aig, GM, etc all have downsized while other are out of biz complety bankrupt, and all this will cause number 2...


2. the banking system is coming down...

this is happening on a daily basis and will completely self destruct in a year or two by 2012


now the the phony corps support the phony banking sytem which supports the phony govt, which leads to number 3


3. the u.s. govt. is coming down...this too is in process and will complete shortly...


as a result, last but not least, these phony structures all support number 4


4. the phony/false organized religions of the world is coming down...starting with christianity which is a mere shell of what christ preached. its days are numbered.


all this is going to lead to disruption/dislocation/chaos



5. stock food/water

get your guns locked/loaded


its gonna get ugly and fast when it breaks

sopsback said...

4. the phony/false organized religions of the world is coming down...starting with christianity which is a mere shell of what christ preached. its days are numbered.


what this means is that "four square phony christain" church will be gone.


christ will live in your hearts, for those who know Him.

not in buildings on sundays only.


but in your heart, where it alwasys was supposed to be.

the ptb corrupted this prinicple and the dumb as rocks phony christians bought into hook, line and stinker.


but rememeber, it takes years and decades to cultivate the HS. you cant do this overnight.

as a result, many will resort to what they know, ie., do what they gotta do to stay alive.

but with these, it was always really this way in their hearts as they were never tested in times of real crisis.

and so it is with 99.9% of those who call themselves 'christians'

they are only 'christians' when times are good.

if need be, to survive, these will cut your heart out and eat it if they have to.

which means that all these phony chruches with their phony christians never existed to begin with.


why many "christians" will die in the end times., ie., there are not/never were real christians with christian principles.

these were of satan masquerading as 'christians'

they beleive in killing, and so shall they be killed, like the webbots said, while working as prison guards in the conc camps holding "enemies of the state"



namaste - so be it

sopsback said...

the ptb corrupted this prinicple and the dumb as rocks phony christians bought into hook, line and stinker.



"see, i'm a real christian...i go to chruch every sunday dressed in my sunday best...i even hold the door for the ppl and usher them to their seats...i attend prayer meetings on wednesday nights...i moderate the christian mens club on friday nites...see, all this just proves that i am an A-1 christian...."



"DEPART FROM ME


I NEVER KNEW YE, YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY"

sopsback said...

the ptb corrupted this prinicple and the dumb as rocks phony christians bought into hook, line and stinker.



waht??


you thought that just because you went to a 'christian church' on a sunday, thats all there was to it?

because you gave big donations to the house of satan on sunday that you were a christian???

because you went out 'ministering' once a week???


WRONG!!!

sopsback said...

you had to spend 'quiet time' in meditation to cultivate HS


unfortunately, no one does this today, nor has the time to do it.


as a result, there are very, very, and i mean very few real christians around today.

no, they wanted the easy way out.


unfortunatly, taking this 'easy' way out has consequences.


the "consequences' are this:


YOUVE BEEN HAD.


now, you can catch up somewhat quickly by doing meditation on this fact.


HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW YOUVE BEEN HAD???


THINK ON THIS FOR A WHILE?????


corse, for this too, there is an "easy" way out.


simple answer.


you may not feel anything because, you were never a real christian to begin with...nor do you desire to be one.


NUFF SAID.

sopsback said...

which means that all these phony chruches with their phony christians never existed to begin with.





antoher SOPism...


didnt SOP say a very long time ago, that....


THERE ARE NO BIBLICAL CHURCHES IN EXISTENCE TODAY.


and there havent been since 313AD when roman constantine made the roman version of 'christianity' the state sponsored religion.

after all, the original 'protestant' luther was a RC. so how could he possibly be anthing but??

what?

just because he posted 99 theses on the popes door??

come on!!

give me a break!!


AND DONT KID YOURSELF.

ALL CHURCHES ARE UNDER ROMES RULE.


PROTESTANT, BAPTIST, PRESBYTERIAN, YOU NAME IT THEYRE ALL RULED BY ROME VIA THE GOVT WHERE THE CHURCH RESIDES.

sopsback said...

PROTESTANT, BAPTIST, PRESBYTERIAN, YOU NAME IT THEYRE ALL RULED BY ROME VIA THE GOVT WHERE THE CHURCH RESIDES.




now for those of you too lazy to figure out how this happens, how the church is ruled by the govt. where the church resides, is this.


the govt. mandates by law, that the church must be 'run' by a "paster"


now, in order to be a copy and "paster" one must have been graduated by a "theological seminary"


now of course, any "religious school", theological "seminary" or etc. must be approved in the state in which they reside, ie., teach; where their theology school is.


so there you have it.

to "teach" christianity in a state sponsored 'chruch" you/it must first be "approved"


now tell me??


what business would christ have had in getting a state sponsored approval for His church???


again, for those too lazy to think for themselves...


NOTHING!!!

sopsback said...

the govt. mandates by law, that the church must be 'run' by a "paster"



in all of the following, replace the word "paster/pastor" with "paster/otherwise approved official"

ie., 'reverend' etc....


reverend = one whom is to be 'revered'


"revered" for WHAT???


running a house of satan?

judge allslop said...

The fraudulent property appraisers will be fraudulently protected by the fraudulent underwriters.The fraudulent title insurers will be fraudulently protected by the fraudulent originators. The fraudulent GSEs will use our tax dollars as a fraudulent backstop for fraudulent Wall Street behavior. Then the fraudulent GSEs will use our tax dollars to pay their fraudulent attorneys. If it’s possible to get the message through the fraudulent media it’s hard not to reach the conclusion our entire economy is based on fraud. The fraudulent foreclosure mills and their fraudulent attorneys who’ve engaged in fraudulent foreclosures may have no escape. I guess that’s the only silver lining in this fraudulent cloud.If I told you I had all the answers I would be making a fraudulent claim.

sopsback said...

REMBER:



World War 3 is here. This war has already begun, at least the propaganda part intended to drive the emotions of the populace to support the ‘terrible choice’ that our ‘leaders’ will say they are forced to make to ‘safe guard our homeland’.

One of the ways that They plan on levering the planet into war begins with an Israeli attack on Iran. Within our work here at Halfpasthuman, we had thought that the attack by the zionist war machine on Iran would be a mistake. That opinion has now changed. The Israeli attack will be a planned ‘sacrifice’ of the ‘nation of israel’ in order to draw the larger nations into a global thermonuclear war. Of course, the Israeli’s don’t recognize that they are to be the sacrifice to Molock, Baphotep, and the other masonic (vatican/reptilian) gods of war.

World War 3 is here, and will most likely begin, according to one interpretation of the emotional tension sums that we have in our data, on November 8th, very early in the pre-dawn. That is when israel, the sacrifice, will be ‘led’ by its zionist ‘leaders’ to launch an attack on Iran. Within minutes of the launch, everything (for the israeli residents and silent backers of the zionist killing machines) will go wrong. The retaliation will be both swift and unexpected, though of course, the zionist ‘leaders’ of the sacrificial sheep of israel will be knowledgeable enough to not be in israel when they launch the attack.

As dawn on November 8th moves around the planet, so will the progression of the Global Thermonuclear War. Within minutes of the launch of the attack, death will rain on israel from a number of sides. As their killing machine streaks toward Iran, the zionist minions will already be fleeing as they know that retaliation will be swift. It is all part of the plan.

As the people in israel are dying of flames and gas and explosions, the propagandists here in the USofA will be parroting the ‘official line’, as promulgated by Wolf and Other Blitzers, that the ‘poor oppressed jews are being slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands and WE need to act now! The propaganda machine of the TPTB will of course have built up the hate and suspicion language around Iran for months prior to the actual attack. They will have used subliminal messages, repetitious themes endlessly repeated, and carefully crafted word imagery to get YOU ready to respond to their cry to ‘help save poor israel’.


COT'D

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As the people in israel are dying of flames and gas and explosions, the propagandists here in the USofA will be parroting the ‘official line’, as promulgated by Wolf and Other Blitzers, that the ‘poor oppressed jews are being slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands and WE need to act now! The propaganda machine of the TPTB will of course have built up the hate and suspicion language around Iran for months prior to the actual attack. They will have used subliminal messages, repetitious themes endlessly repeated, and carefully crafted word imagery to get YOU ready to respond to their cry to ‘help save poor israel’.

The mental pathways prepared by the press minions of ThePowersThatBe will be most intense here in the USofA as we are the pin that holds the whole war machine together. As the mind controlled residents of the USofA rise to go work for their hidden slave masters on November 8th, they will be greeted with images of a world gone mad. That is until they turn on the sound, and tune into the messages of ThePowersThatBe pouring out from the prisoner press on mainstream media. Wolf and the Other Blitzers will weep on the screen accompanied by images of the horror of the poor israeli innocents unjustly killed by the evil-doers for no good reason at all. The propagandists will wail and cry, and bring your favorite celebrities to also wail and cry “poor israel, oh poor israel, done so low for merely launching a nuclear attack against Iran”….and other ‘woe to us poor zionists” language that is exactly calculated to support the rallying stance from the ‘leaders’ of the USofA as they shout “rise up christians, and go to battle to avenge the poor sacrificed israel”. Then they will cite individual lives within the millions of dead and soon to die merely for launching a nuclear attack against Iran, and cry ‘foul evil doers must be stopped’. Wolf and the Other Blitzers will confer with earnest and thoughtful criminals from congress, pedophiles from the vatican, cabalists from the CFR (council on foreign relations) and other parts of the control structure, who will all play their scripted part in releasing the triggers for prepared pathways in your mind.

COT'D

sopsback said...

The flaming eyes intensity of the Other Blitzers at the official channel of the opposition, Fox, will ratchet up several notches as the news readers begin to feel the blood engorging their pindars in anticipation of the beautiful horrors awaiting their lust for death and religious confrontation. Their shining eyes will seem to seek out viewers through the 1080 HD screens as they too shout the rallying cry of ‘rise up evangelical and fundamentalist christians! Rise up! Killing time is here! Be ready to die for our beloved israel!’

The reptilian ‘leaders’ of the americans, both visible and hidden, will also be tugging on their rigid penises, eyes and hearts flashing hot, and dense, as they too anticipate the sacrifice of israel and the coming orgy of blood. Their eyes blink rapidly, their jaws clench in rhythmic spasms as their tongues dart between quivering lips. They can already taste the coming ‘feeding’ upon humanity, and it smells good to their darting tongues even as it is brought so faintly on the future winds drifting into the now.

World War 3 is here. The aware observer sees the evidence as Wolf and the Other Blitzers carefully seed the linguistics of the propaganda channels here in the reptile owned anglo-american empire. They plant these seeds on orders of their masters such that we will all respond appropriately at the appointed time to act out our part in planned grand death ritual, World War 3.

World War 3 is here. The reptiles are even now planning the details of your death in their ritual sacrifice and feeding frenzy. Deny it, or accept it, your choice. A terrible choice, either way, with repercussions long lasting, and dread. A terrible choice, to acknowledge that omnihumanity is marching along to obediently yet-again to orders that will result in the deaths of billions in very short order, or to deny that such a possibility exists, to put to rest all the nagging worries that something is decidedly wrong, and to surrender to the mind-control, fully supporting the version of reality fostered on you by your ‘betters’.

A terrible choice, to own your position as one of very few aware and thus a member of the ‘insane conspiracy theory fringe’, or one of the masses, fully swallowing the lies and hoping that ‘this time is different’.

So, you are here now, watch Wolf and the Other Blitzers over the coming months noting their use of language and war symbols. Note who they speak with, and whom is ignored. See what subjects are brought up how often, and especially watch for what is not shown. Follow with conscious awareness as they attempt to lead your mind to death in their ritual wars. The aware observer will grasp the language changes over these coming months as they begin to introduce the plan to the unprotected minds of humans all around you. The new War Season starts May 6th….stay tuned.

sopsback said...

The flaming eyes intensity of the Other Blitzers at the official channel of the opposition, Fox, will ratchet up several notches as the news readers begin to feel the blood engorging their pindars in anticipation of the beautiful horrors awaiting their lust for death and religious confrontation. Their shining eyes will seem to seek out viewers through the 1080 HD screens as they too shout the rallying cry of ‘rise up evangelical and fundamentalist christians! Rise up! Killing time is here! Be ready to die for our beloved israel!’

The reptilian ‘leaders’ of the americans, both visible and hidden, will also be tugging on their rigid penises, eyes and hearts flashing hot, and dense, as they too anticipate the sacrifice of israel and the coming orgy of blood. Their eyes blink rapidly, their jaws clench in rhythmic spasms as their tongues dart between quivering lips. They can already taste the coming ‘feeding’ upon humanity, and it smells good to their darting tongues even as it is brought so faintly on the future winds drifting into the now.

World War 3 is here. The aware observer sees the evidence as Wolf and the Other Blitzers carefully seed the linguistics of the propaganda channels here in the reptile owned anglo-american empire. They plant these seeds on orders of their masters such that we will all respond appropriately at the appointed time to act out our part in planned grand death ritual, World War 3.

World War 3 is here. The reptiles are even now planning the details of your death in their ritual sacrifice and feeding frenzy. Deny it, or accept it, your choice. A terrible choice, either way, with repercussions long lasting, and dread. A terrible choice, to acknowledge that omnihumanity is marching along to obediently yet-again to orders that will result in the deaths of billions in very short order, or to deny that such a possibility exists, to put to rest all the nagging worries that something is decidedly wrong, and to surrender to the mind-control, fully supporting the version of reality fostered on you by your ‘betters’.

A terrible choice, to own your position as one of very few aware and thus a member of the ‘insane conspiracy theory fringe’, or one of the masses, fully swallowing the lies and hoping that ‘this time is different’.

COT'D

sopsback said...
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sopsback said...

A terrible choice, to own your position as one of very few aware and thus a member of the ‘insane conspiracy theory fringe’, or one of the masses, fully swallowing the lies and hoping that ‘this time is different’.

So, you are here now, watch Wolf and the Other Blitzers over the coming months noting their use of language and war symbols. Note who they speak with, and whom is ignored. See what subjects are brought up how often, and especially watch for what is not shown. Follow with conscious awareness as they attempt to lead your mind to death in their ritual wars. The aware observer will grasp the language changes over these coming months as they begin to introduce the plan to the unprotected minds of humans all around you. The new War Season starts May 6th….stay tuned.

As Wolf and the Other Blitzers’ slogans say, ‘watch, then decide’. It is, after all, their lies, and your terrible choice.




clif high

sopsback said...

yep. somethins is defintly cumming on nov 8 and it not paris hilltop eether.

sopsback said...

this is way too serious to use asterisks*


THIS IS SERIOUS SHIT WE'RE TALKING HERE!!!!

sopsback said...

well, at least one good thins cum out of it....at lest the oil is slop.


http://www.nola.com/
news/gulf-oil-spill/
index.ssf/2010/10/massive_stretches
_of_weathered.html

sopsback said...

yep, the chart falls off a 'clif' on 11/9 2010 opposite of 9/11 2001


also somehting i hadnt noticed before, the chart rises for a bit, and then nosedives at about 2/11/11 if you look


http://www.halfpasthuman.com/DOCS/2010chart1.JPG



so, we no sooner get done with 11/9 and then whats cumming in 2/11????

sopsback said...

yes, i just notice, anthoer one of those loo minooti 'reversible' dates

11/2/10 - 11/2/2010
2/11/11 - 2/11/2011


think i go by a can of soda down the street at the 7/11...or is it the 11/7 atore? cant rember....

paw said...

Near the End

I did get ahold of Dr. Fred and sent him a quit claim deed for Scott and Kurt to sign. Just waiting for the paperwork to be sent back. It cost me $350.00+ so I'm hoping it works out. By now this whole things has cost me over $4000. If I had that money back right now I wouldn't need the HELOC I'm trying to get. Thanks again for your help. Keeping my fingers crossed.

judge allslop said...

There is about as much chance of any one admitting wrong doing and fraud in the mortgage industry as is there is Billy Alsup admitting miscarriage of justice in the Dorean case. Systemic weakness, my ass!!.


U.S. banking regulators are examining mortgage lenders’ procedures to see if they are improperly foreclosing on homes, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said. “We are looking intensively at the firms’ policies, procedures, and internal controls related to foreclosures and seeking to determine whether systematic weaknesses are leading to improper foreclosures,” Bernanke said today at a housing conference in Arlington, Virginia.

near the end said...

sop How do you know he does not have a Motor Home. Why are you so concerned if he travels around the country or not. Not everone is broke like you.

near the end said...

sop How do you know he does not have a Motor Home. Why are you so concerned if he travels around the country or not. Not everone is broke like you.

near the end said...

sop How do you know he does not have a Motor Home. Why are you so concerned if he travels around the country or not. Not everone is broke like you.

sopsback said...

Monday, October 25, 2010


NESARA - Tom Schaults's World Court Ruling - MUST READ!


First time on the internet - It was filed at the Hague back in September. Very, very important. VK Durham contributed her efforts to the body of the suit.


http://www.4shared.com/document/fbO_0YgN/World_Court_Ruling.html

sopsback said...

sop How do you know he does not have a Motor Home. Why are you so concerned if he travels around the country or not. Not everone is broke like you.



ive never said that he doesnt have a moto home.

you said...

"I talked to him last week. He's staying put and answering calls.

i said that in his tape, that HE said that he was going to get one and go travelling.


if he did not do that, then he did not do what he said that he was going to.

doesnt matter to me what he does/doesnt do.

and btw, whats it to you whatever i say?


and btw2- im not broke, i invested in burly baals HYIPs and have plenty of money.

you will have to wiat until 2025 for the gd to payut.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

sopsback said...

dr. fred is broke like me. glad to hear it.

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