Monday, April 04, 2011

Break Faith 2-14-11

I have suffered two divorces of marriage in my life. These were not fun events but I come to understand inevitable. Divorce of marriage has made the term divorce famous but the word is one that can be applied to a myriad of relationships. I have had good friends divorce me while I’m incarcerated. I divorced the Lord for a year and a half in my youth. This is the most critical of all divorces because if you do not repent it is eternal. All divorces come down to the one act of “Break Faith”. There may be voluminous excess but they all trickle down to this one act. How many Dorean clients have broken faith with Scott and me? Sure they are justified, all divorces are justified. That is the sweet comfort of our sin. We condemn everyone else and excuse ourselves. Here is the external problem and for Scott and I the rub that goes against our self preserving nature. The faith of Jesus is particular and unique. It is the only recognized and accepted faith by God. The faith of Christ is diligent and resolute in trusting every word that proceeds from God’s mouth. Translated to its essence the scripture says “Man cannot live by bread alone by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God by the only vehicle available: that being the faith of Christ.” My codefendants all came to that place where concern for the things of this world ran in direct opposition to the faith of Christ. This is not a place where one can stand still, life forces a choice. Unfortunately for most they divorce God by rejecting the faith of Christ. When my marriages ended this was the same line of termination. I was guided by the faith of Christ proven unacceptable to my spouses. The choice placed before me was my bride or my groom. Thank God it wasn’t a difficult choice. I did suffer pain as all divorces will bring, but eternity has a way of supplying comforting joy if you do not break faith with Christ, I’m tolerating and surviving all the divorces this harsh life brings for the sake of an eternal marriage that keeps my vows resolute. I hope all your divorces bring you to this revelation. Even if it by your break faith with Dorean.

17 comments:

Joseph said...

How many Dorean clients have broken faith with Scott and me?
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I've wondered the same question. I'm almost afraid to even make a guess. Maybe too many clients based their relationship with Dorean on their perceived definition of success in their perceived time frame that seemed reasonable to them. Since most may have been disappointed in one respect or another, or felt that things should have turned out a specific way by now, they gave up believing that being a client was the right and best choice for them.

It also goes to the regret issue. If a client had to do it over again today, having full hindsight of the events so far, would they not get involved at all & prefer to have a refund today if that were even possible? Maybe that's the question to ask. If the answer is yes to that question, they have lost faith and see what they want to see based upon their limited tunnel vision.

God's vision for us is often very different than our own personal vision.

I like that Scott & you are willing to do your best to listen to all the words of Christ as this is the way to victory, not only for personal salvation, but also redemption for Dorean and exculpatory justice and vindication too for you both.

You both have never been forgotten. It may seem that way, from time to time, but in reality many have taken notice and see and acknowledge in their own personal weaknesses, that you both are doing something extraordinary.

Keeping the faith is your "red badge of courage" and the greatest tribute and compliment to Dorean.

Joseph said...

Cost for membership as a dorean client: $3,000

Cost for the belief that Dorean would prevail:

Possible foreclosure on home

Influential people met and being enriched along the way due to introduction to Dorean:

PRICELESS

dr. ira gilac said...

How many Dorean clients have broken faith with Scott and me?
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corse, it wuod help a lot to keep fate as long as one haf a place to live, or is/was that not important to the program?

corse some ho may haf bin put out on the street and have died since cant keep the faith now can they?

the dg will eventually be successful but it has failed in its original promises. granted, not thru malice of intention, but throuhg inadequate understanding of the strenght and resauces of the beast.

kurt and scott are nice guys, but until they come to admit that their original premise of the dg has failed, they are not going anywhere spiritually no matter how much they bring god into it.

they must take the spiritual monkey off thier backs and put it on the backs of the dg clints.

then, its up to the dg clits to "forgive" them, else they themsleves are now in default with god.


end of story...it is what it is

if either side fails to admit failure, they are in the water w/o a kayak, swimming in the nile. they can talk about god all they want to.


bottom line, the dg made promises that were not kept in the time frame promised, so they failed. all the religious gobbleygook is meaningless. in fact, it may be the reason that god is keeping them where they are, and until they do admit it.


now, i am not saying that they committed any fraud, or should even be in jail.

they do not need to admit anything to the beast, ie the govnmt, but THEY DO NEED TO ADMIT FAILURE IN THE TIME PERIOD PROMISED to their clints.

they dont have to, but god may be trying to teach them to repent and they are nto getting the massage.

take it fo wha its worth.

dr. ira gilac said...

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Cesium-137 at 1.1 MILLION times limit (VIDEO)


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Like I said --- END GAME
If there is ANYTHING we can do to save the human race
WE NEED TO DO IT.
This is it, folks.

Don't know how much more I can say

dr. ira gilac said...

nah, da end isnt cumming...jus kep rolling rite along....it all good....kep listing to da Cuntrol Noose Notworks (CNN) and yo be alrite.....let me no when yo start glowing in da dark, i want to charge up my flatlite.....lol

dr. ira gilac said...

lol...


first it was no excape radacton...den it was only few x more....den it was only a hundid x mo....den a tousand x mo.....


NOW IT 7,500,000X MORE!!!!


r u f**king kidding me or wah???


course, dun worry, it wont get into the air an yo wont breath it....nah.....lol


like yo sayed, da dg is irelvant now...yo wont be around long enuf to joy yo settel mints...it will leave a bad taste in yo moth...yo g-g-g-g-g-g-g-grankikes wont efen be around to joy it eether.

Joseph said...

Dr. Numb Nutts says: corse some ho may haf bin put out on the street and have died since cant keep the faith now can they?
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Have you immediately forgotten that Kurt & Scott are in prison and have no home to call home, so how can they keep the faith? But they do, don't they?????

So if you lose your house & rent another place, you can't keep the faith? Faith is dependent upon material blessings always?

So if your body dies, and your spirit lives on, you can't keep the faith? Here's a spiritual and eternal fact: "The same spirit that possesses your body at the time you leave this earth, that same spirit has power to possess you in the hereafter." Your personality doesn't change because you died. You aren't saved because you died. Maybe you still don't get that. This doctrine is called the doctrine of "restoration". It's a just and fair doctrine, and "it is what it is."

If someone dies, any inheritance is given to their posterity. That is in keeping with keeping the dorean faith.

The only thing that Dorean needs to apologize for is on not being as successful as quickly as believed, but that has already been acknowledged, and God is not punishing the Dorean Group for pride or arrogance as you suggest since you suggest that they are spiritually lacking. If anything your conclusions and accusations of all of this is arrogance, and considering you were never even a client, you are lacking on many things yourself in trying to understand all of this and being a fair and impartial judge. You have no "skin in the game" as it's called in the lending world, so why do you care?

Your accusation in essence says that the Dorean Group under-estimated the enemy, therefore due to this under-estimation they were punished and defeated in many battles.
There were never any guarantees!!!! Scott overstressed this from the very beginning. I understood this, so I never stopped making my payments voluntarily. I wanted to see how things played out. I wasn't sure, but I still understood the legal basis for quitting the payments though, and I truly hoped that my lender would see the light.

I didn't realize because one has lost many battles in life means you can't be spiritually inclined and therefore have a need to repent? Thanks for pointing this out.

Joseph said...

Obviously you have a short term memory loss, since you don't remember the recent apology of Kurt's when he said that his belief about getting out of prison by a certain date was wrong and he was mistaken, and that by leading some to believe this was a prophecy, instead of a personally held belief, he hurt some people close to him. How much groveling do you really need to be appeased anyway cause frankly I really don't know? I would never kick someone when they are down, not ever. I'm not that cruel, however, I think you possess a cruel streak sometimes.

So since you don't accept the apologies he does make, further apologies will probably fall on deaf & ignorant ears of yours anyway, so I still don't see your point.

Also the only promise Dorean clients were given was that their mortgage would be discharged of record. It was in every case discharged of record. There were never any written guarantees how the banks would behave. Scott CONSTANTLY SAID, at least a dozen times I can recall, "expect the banks to behave badly", and not all banks behave alike in the same manner.

It's not the Dorean's fault that the courts don't recognize the lawfulness of the process right now & the fact that all the banks were put in default. The paper trail proves this. If the courts finally recognize the importance of the paper trail & that the criminal counts were bogus, and that Judge Alsup behaved badly, at some point we can have a class action lawsuit, and clean their house. Or we can say the government is at fault and needs to pay if the banks don't.

in time, just to wait for that possibility, isn't that good enough for you? No it isn't. You still want more apologies even today than has already been given. If you think they are going to win eventually, why don't you tell me how you think this is going to happen?

Your negativity is only exceeded by your inability to spell.

Who cares if people have suffered if eventually the faithful and even the non-faithful are blessed 3-10 fold in the end? Jesus is God and he didn't eliminate suffering when he was here ON THIS EARTH. He didn't eliminate poverty when he was here either. He didn't even eliminate homelessness. He was often homeless himself. If that was of the utmost importance, CHRIST WOULD HAVE SOLVED THOSE PROBLEMS LONG AGO.

Will it all be worth it if that scenario is correct that there will be a victory party some day? Will you still ask that the Dorean Group apologize at that date too when the blessings are flowing and no one is denying that fact because it's a fact at that time that can't be denied? At that day, no one outside the Dorean Group will be asking for apologies from Kurt & Scott, I assure you. If anything, many of the unfaithful will be asking the Dorean Group for forgiveness of their unfaithfulness and ill spoken words if anything.

Have you ever thought you needed an apology from someone, and than when you saw the full picture, your need for an apology was no longer a need or an issue? Of course not, you've never had an eppifany like that, otherwise, you wouldn't make the comments that you do. Sorry for the question; that was very unthoughtful of me.

Joseph said...

Dr. Numb Nutts said: "god may be trying to teach them to repent and they are nto getting the massage."
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Yes, and God may be blessing Judge Alsup, the courts, the banks for their actions too since it's evident for the most part, most of these parties haven't suffered at all. Since they haven't suffered, they must be just & this must mean God has blessed these parties because they were on the right side all along.

God's patience in not delivering justice for the Dorean Group in a speedy manner, must mean that God approves of the actions of the banks, the courts, the FBI, and all the enemies of the Dorean Group and that God is against the Dorean Group since God has never apologized recently for not bringing these parties to complete justice by now, so he must approve of all of their actions. God must need to apologize soon too, otherwise, I'm going to lose my faith since my faith is based upon an apology & restitution in the perceived time I expected.

Hopefully God will get this monkey off his back soon, but if not, this must mean that Kurt & Scott were totally wrong from the very beginning. Since none of these parties have been held accountable for the most part, it must mean that God approves of all of these actions by the banks & courts and the US justice Dept., because God is always a winner, and must also approve of the fact that Kurt & Scott are in jail, otherwise, they would have been out of jail by now & they got what they deserved because the petite jury saw them for what they were, liars and cheats. If God was really in control of the Dorean Group & was inspiring them, he would have never allowed Kurt & Scott to go to jail in the first place. All holy prophets in the past were always protected from this fate, so why not Kurt & Scott?

God must be proving that the Dorean Group got their just reward. Appearances are always the facts.

I'm glad I finally had the opportunity to show how intelligent and perceptive I really am from this latest post.

If you believe most of this, I'm sorry for you. It's pure sarcasm.

OMO said...

There were never any guarantees!!!!
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If people wanted a certain guarantee all they had to do was ask the Dorean broker what Dorean's strategy was for calling off the Sheriff! Asking the RIGHT questions and you'll get the RIGHT answers. If no answer is forthcoming, then that is your answer! No answer means run, run as fast you can!

The trouble is no one knew what questions to ask. They simply put their "Trust" in Kott and Scurt.
What sinners!

OMO said...

How many Dorean clients transfered their property to two people they didn't even know? What sinners! When Dorean clients wanted out of the program, guess what? How many Dorean clients were declined! OMG...

Joseph said...

How many Dorean clients transfered their property to two people they didn't even know? What sinners!

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT DOREAN CLIENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY STUPID & NEVER DID ANY DUE DILIGENCE ON THEIR OWN WHATSOEVER? WHO ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO INSULT HERE? THE TRANSFER WAS INTO YOUR FAMILY TRUST YOU MORON! THE CLIENT IS THE BENEFICIARY OF THAT TRUST. THIS PROVIDED ASSET AND PRIVACY PROTECTION. HOW MANY CLIENTS ASKED TO HAVE THE TRANSFER REVERSED BACK TO THEIR PERSONAL NAMES & HAD IT DONE? YOU QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THE TRUSTEES & HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY SUCH, SO THAT MAKES YOU THE SINNER LAST TIME I CHECKED. YOU AGREE YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, AND YOU PROPOSE ANTI-CHRIST PHILOSOPHIES, YET YOU ARE THE FIRST TO JUDGE. I FIND THAT IRONICAL BECAUSE JESUS WILL BE YOUR FINAL JUDGE AT THE FINAL JUDGMENT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

When Dorean clients wanted out of the program, guess what?

I GIVE UP, WHAT IS THE ANSWER & WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO GUESS? GUESSING IS WHAT YOU ARE BEST AT-- NO ME.

How many Dorean clients were declined! OMG...

EVERY PERSON THAT WANTED OUT EVENTUALLY HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY OR A TRANSFER OF TITLE.

IF YOU MAKE A CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE, DOES THAT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO BREAK IT AT WILL AT ANY TIME? OBVIOUSLY YOU THINK SO, SO AGAIN, THAT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE THE CONTRACT BREAKER & SINNER BECAUSE YOU SIDE WITH THOSE THAT HAVE NO SANCTITY IN AN AGREEMENT. IF YOU ARE A PARENT & HAVE CHILDREN, HAVE YOU GIVEN YOUR CHILDREN WHAT THEY ASKED ALWAYS, IMMEDIATELY WHEN THEY ASKED IT, EVEN IF YOU THOUGHT IT WASN'T BEST FOR THEM, AND MIGHT EVEN HURT THEM OR ARE YOU A HYPOCRITE IN THAT AREA TOO?

Joseph said...

If people wanted a certain guarantee all they had to do was ask the Dorean broker

IF GUARANTEES WERE GIVEN BY CERTAIN BROKERS, THAN YOUR BEEF IS WITH A SPECIFIC BROKER.

what Dorean's strategy was for calling off the Sheriff!

PRAYTELL WHAT SPECIFIC STRATEGY ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

Asking the RIGHT questions and you'll get the RIGHT answers.

I OFTEN ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND NEVER GET THE RIGHT ANSWERS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN THERE EITHER.

If no answer is forthcoming, then that is your answer!

SO SINCE THE BANKS NEVER GAVE AN ANSWER TO THE AFFIDAVIT OF TRUTH THAT SCOTT SIGNED, THAN THAT'S THE ANSWER THAT THE LENDER HAS NO LEGAL INTEREST IN MY HOME? THANKS FOR PROVING THE DOREAN PROCESS WAS LEGALLY SOUND.

No answer means run, run as fast you can!

WHAT IS THE ANSWER YOU NEVER RECEIVED? MAYBE YOU DIDN'T ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION? LOL

The trouble is no one knew what questions to ask. They simply put their "Trust" in Kott and Scurt.
What sinners!

OH, SO YOU KNOW THE MAGICAL QUESTION TO ASK? PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE MAJICAL QUESTION(S) ARE? I'M DYING TO KNOW.

OMO said...

I stand by everything I said. If you don't understand it, then too bad. I have no more time for this nonsense. The Dorean program is OVER and has been for quite sometime now! No use crying over spilled milk. I'm done responding to your nonsense!

Joseph said...

ask the Dorean broker what Dorean's strategy was for calling off the Sheriff!
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I'll tell you what I would tell the Sheriff. I would say that if you forcibly evict me, you will become a defendant to my huge financial claim down the road, because my lender doesn't have "legal standing" to foreclose on me and never did. Do what you must at your own peril.

There was no process to deal with the Sheriff doing his job, nor was there any written agreement to defend any foreclosure lawsuit. The Dorean process was an administrative process only.

So OMO, are you saying you were never a Dorean client?

Joseph said...

I stand by everything I said. If you don't understand it, then too bad. I have no more time for this nonsense. The Dorean program is OVER and has been for quite sometime now! No use crying over spilled milk. I'm done responding to your nonsense!
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Dear Quitter:

Yeah you remind me of the collection agency that called me on the phone one day trying to collect on a very small debt, that they purported to be the holder in due course of, using every harassment technique in the book.

I threw every technique they used back in their face, and in the end, the collector got so muffled and angry by what I threw back at him, he said the same thing, "I don't have time for all of this" his last words were in a yelling tone, "Get out of my face" and he hung up on me.

When you get collection agencies hanging up on you first, than you've done a good job.

Before he hung up, I reminded him that he was the one that called me, not the other way around.

Joseph said...

The Dorean program is OVER and has been for quite sometime now!

ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT TRUE. THERE'S PHASE I & PHASE II THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

No use crying over spilled milk.

YET YOU STILL ARE CRYING OVER SPILLED MILK BY YOUR ACCUSATIONS AND HARD FEELINGS AND COMMENTS. DON'T YOU SEE THE HYPOCRISY THERE?

I'm done responding to your nonsense!

CAN I GET THAT IN WRITING? I RESPOND TO YOUR NONSENSE, DO YOU THINK YOU ARE BETTER THAN I AND BY RESPONDING FURTHER, IT IS SOMEHOW BENEATH YOU? FRANKLY I THINK YOU HAVE WASTED OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME WITH MANY OF YOUR COMMENTS THAT PROVIDE NO FAITH, NO HOPE, AND HAVE NO VALIDITY WHATSOEVER.