Tuesday, August 16, 2005

“What’s In A Number? “

Today a client sent in a notary to grant their property out of trust. I do not mind this but you must make sure that is what you really want to do, lest you jeopardize the other task we perform for you. Again I want to thank you for your letters; they go a long way in the edification of my soul. For my fellow fighters do not fear for me our enemies are cowards and desperate. I have spent my life facing down the bullies to expose their spineless nature. Here is the mystery to me. If two men can shake up the government to have it become lawless in self-preservation how is it the previous generations have remained silent? Duplicate yourselves and your education if two can rattle their peace what will a hundred, a thousand, or ten thousands do? I for one would like to witness that event. To be continued…

26 comments:

dgwondering said...

Just can't seem to stop promoting the scheme no matter what. That'll help your case.

tcob247 said...

Isnt that what happens when we get the Quit Claim Deed and then file it?
It takes the property out of the trust. Am I right or wrong?
Anybody?

dgwondering said...

I think you need to dissolve the trust and revoke the power of attorney and record those in the same county with the quit claim.

tcob247 said...

How does one go about doing that?

imbigo said...

Why would one join a fight and quit fighting because they lost a few rounds, all it takes is a punch in the right spot to knock the guy out. Dont be a quitter! Pay your note and wait to see the last blow...

BIG "O" 1+1+1=1

blondiefromjekyll said...

Kurt - we were told on a call for everyone to do the quitclaim and then resubmit later, that it would not impact anything - is that not correct? particularly in the case of having a possible buyer right at pre-foreclosure? Hope you are ok...

dgwondering said...

tcob247 - what I think you're trying to do is restore everything to the pre-Dorean filings situation. You want to make things as if it never happened. Your mortgage or title insurance company should be willing to help you fix it unless your way behind on payments.

tcob247 said...

I'm fine....I've been making payments all along
Never been late.
I was under the assumption that once you got your Quit Claim back and filed it, that was what took it out of the trust.
If you don't Quit Claim it back to Kurt, then it was like it was originally.
Imbigio...
I joined the fight with the information given at that time.
It didn't turn out to be the way they portrayed it.
Is it OK with you if I just want my house back?
Looked like for awhile I wouldn't cause Kurt was in Jail and he owned my house. Scary
You can do it if you want. I worked too hard to have someone own my house who is in Jail
Just my opinion and my house

dgwondering said...

tcob247: this isn't legal advice but what I understand is as long as they still have a power of attorney and the trust still exists you need to know for sure what that means to your personal legal and taxes situation.

truthtooth said...

Once again Kurt has them right where he wants them. He is right. What would happen if we had 1,000 Kurts?

Answer: Increased population of our jails.

Elmer Fudd said...

We'll isn't that such wonderful news Kids :P. Hey you keep up the good work there jailbirds and make sure you keep your back away from ol big bubba there.

connielee said...

Kurt,
What kind of courage is needed when you are about to have your house sold and there is no one from Dorean able to appear in the court? Some of you may not care and can keep up the fight
but we like to be able to sleep at night. There has been no peace in this home for a year and lots of ugly hateful bank letters and grief. We tried to make payments and it was like forcing spinach down the throat of a baby who hates spinach. The bank would not negotiate the payments with the note on the back. So we tried to pay without the note and still to no avail. We have always defended, supported you and still cheer for you. But now we have to do what the attorney says before we are fed to the wolves. We have over $100,000 equity at stake. We have paid over $20,000 in bank and attorney fees, not to mention the money spent on this program and effects of a negative credit report.
We still feel we should rightly be compensated with the "administrative judgements" regardless of what actions we must take for reinstatement favor for virtually fighting on our own in the cause for over a year to no avail. We feel distressed and disappointed by your note today. Are you not going to reward any of us since we just have to "quit claim" to have any defense at all in the court. And we do hope we can at least have the "quit claim" done. That is a simple procedure that may prevent the foreclosure and reinstate the loan for us. Do not admonish your faithful servants, your most precious clients who have become pawns it this game to fulfil an agenda. I want to be positive in attitude but if the judges say " "so you got a house and you were compensated???"....what will be your new endeavor in the missing note project????

Elmer Fudd said...

Connie i wish you the best and hope it all works out for you. Unbelievable you people at dorean should be ashamed of yourselves.

Watergod said...
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Watergod said...

I can appreciate what you are trying to accomplish...but the fact is there are a lot of damaged lives. My wife of 7 years just filed for divorce as our entire financial life has been destroyed. She trusted me because I trusted you. We lost our 2 homes...and $600,000 in equity. Now it looks like I am also going to lose the love of my life as well. (And NO there weren't any other problems in our marriage before TDG. Best friends for 10 years. But destroying everything we worked for was just too much for her. Look it up. #1 reason people divorce...FINANCES)

It seems this whole system being sold WASN'T proven at all. It was an educated guess...gambling with other people's assets. Now I hear there is a new direction for TDG. Good for you. But just because McDonalds was a HUGE success...doesn't mean you can open your own burger joint and expect to have the same results. The fact is you are all flying by the seat of your pants grasping at vines in the jungle and all the while justifying the casualties along the way.

People who have passed through to the other side...and returned (Near Death Experiences) report that they were forced to experience EVERYTHING they put other people through...down to the last emotion and pain. Pray this isn't true...because I doubt you could handle the pain of what you have put countless families through. I have lost everything...and don't think the idea of ending my life hasn't crossed my mind...over and over again. I could handle losing the houses...but now TDG has reached out and destroyed the most important part of my life.

I feel like the biggest sucker in the world.

Great you decided to fight the good fight.

Shame on you for using other peoples lives as the means to make your Whistle.

Elmer Fudd said...

Hey Swami or Down but not out. Do you have any comments or helpful suggetions to these people that are going thru this? Let's hear from you two what they should do.

tcob247 said...

Those are just two people affected.
There are hundreds more.

down but not out said...

efudd

I am in the same situation as many.
Right now I am talking to a third party foreclosue intervention agency. There are remedys to foreclosure (and I'm not talking bankruptcy)When I know more I will pass the info on, which is more than I can say for you. If you are so passionate about saving everybody, why don't you do some research to find ways to help, instead of demonizing everybody involved?

tcob247 said...

Here's the kind of comments you get from people who support TDG

Down but not out.."Quit bitching about it. You signed up for this "scam" and lost. Take your ball and bat and go home" You seem to want to blame everone BUT yourself.
Be a man and take some responsibility for your actions.

Or this from TwinGift94 said...
We sit here in judgement with nothing on the line. Kurt and Scott are the ones who will ultimately sacrifice.

lostatc said...
so what is worse, losing your job because you were told to stop paying taxes, or, losing your house because you were told to stop making payments?
so what your "friends" won't talk to you without their lawyer... waaaa. give me a break. trust me, they never were your friends.. so many victim stories...

Elmer Fudd said...

down but not out said...
efudd

I am in the same situation as many.
Right now I am talking to a third party foreclosue intervention agency. There are remedys to foreclosure (and I'm not talking bankruptcy)When I know more I will pass the info on, which is more than I can say for you. If you are so passionate about saving everybody, why don't you do some research to find ways to help, instead of demonizing everybody involved?

LoL we'll i'll tell you if i did take there money and promised them i would elim there mortgage you can be damn sure i would at least answer the phone for any questions. I never said i was well versed on this subject either knuckle head, but i know when someone is being ripped off. So since you're going thru the process idiot why don't you help her and the other gentlemen out? But i bet your not! Just another one of those kurt supporters or friends who don't really give a shit about Connie or watergod. Come on dorean people help them out!!!

down but not out said...

E Fudd.

Did you not read what I posted? I am seeking third party intervention to see if something can be done to help us out of the situation. When that information is available I will pass it along.
BTW I appologize for the name calling and harshness of past posts. If you will show some restraint so will I and maybe we can help everyone out of the situation.
If you want to continue to call me an idiot , a liar, and a cheat, so be it. I will do my part to get some helpful info. What will you do?

Eliot51657 said...

For all of those in dire straits caused by the deceitful and fraudulent actions of TDG, the most beneficial action you can take at this point is to contact the Loss Mitigation Department at your mortgage company. You have undoubtedly received numerous letters listing just how to do this. I know that you all were hoping for some “magic pill” as espoused by TDG, but the only sure way to save your home is to either repay the arrearage amount in full, or make some arrangement to do so. That arrangement is called a Loss Mitigation plan.

Despite what you have been spoon fed by the thieves at TDG, or may even believe, you really were loaned money for your home and that must be repaid. While it sounds great to possibly receive something for nothing, do you really believe that someone was just going to give you your home?

If you really want to keep your home, quit looking for some “magic pill” and own up to the fact that you did borrow the money and begin to figure out a way to repay that amount to the mutual satisfaction of all involved.

you will know them by their fruit said...

Wow did this blog backfire!

May God be will all of you who are in such terrible circumstances. Amazing and horrible stories at the same time.

I think it would be healing in nature if even others could share their story.

God Bless

truthtooth said...

Watergod:

I am sorry to hear about all of the loss that these con-men (criminals) have put you through.

These people are worse then people that stick you up with a gun! A least a stick-up person is honest about what he is doing to you.

I have been through a divorce and I don't have to tell you about the extreem pain because you are living it. I am not one to preach about support groups because I am an independent man that never thought much about the softer skills. But I would like to encourage you to seek out others that can relate. I promise you that as painful as this is you will come through this.

The world is full of shitty people but you will be supprised at how many good people there are that really care about you.

Please be strong and know that although I do not know you from Adam I will prey that God gives you strength.

Be strong dude.

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