Sunday, October 16, 2005

Fear, Trepidation and Trembling

The Feds, friends to all law abiding citizens, have said they will prosecute us first but will look at the clients also. BOO! You scared yet? Perhaps one day you will see the value in your trustees. For a mere $1500.00, you get our challenge process, a family trust, and a hedge of protection from our asinine government. They will never get through us to ever look at you. Maybe I should be that guy you all think you know and cover my own ass, look out for me and let you deal with this over-zealous government. God knows, you’ve done so much to prepare yourselves; I’m sure you’d be fine. Just keep bitching, blaming, complaining; I’ve got your back regardless.


Starfish Prime said...

Coming after the clients?? The government is not out to protect anyone but the Big Bankers... shame..


Starfish Prime said...
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Starfish Prime said...

and fuck all the clueless People that ruined it.

Starfish Prime said...

go run to the government for help!! They'll save you!!! You SUCKER

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Starfish Prime said...

Citizens no longer have a right to financial privacy. According to the Supreme Court in United States v. Miller, anyone who uses a bank account is an open book to the government since you waived your right to privacy when you conducted any transactions with the bank.

The case is United States v. Miller (425 us 435)

(a) The subpoenaed materials were business records of the banks, not respondent's private papers. Pp. 440-441.

(b) There is no legitimate "expectation of privacy" in the contents of the original checks and deposit slips, since the checks are not confidential communications but negotiable instruments to be used in commercial transactions, and all the documents obtained contain only information voluntarily conveyed to the banks and exposed to their employees in the ordinary course of business. The Fourth Amendment does not prohibit the obtaining of information revealed to a third party and conveyed by him to Government authorities. The Act's recordkeeping requirements do not alter these considerations so as to create a protectable Fourth Amendment interest of a bank depositor in the bank's records of his account. Pp. 441-443.

(c) Issuance of a subpoena to a third party does not violate a defendant's rights, even if a criminal prosecution is contemplated at the time the subpoena is issued. California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz, 416 U.S. 21, 53. Pp. 444-445.

Page 425 U.S. 435, 436

(d) Access to bank records under the Act is to be controlled by "existing legal process." That does not mean that greater judicial scrutiny, equivalent to that required for a search warrant, is necessary when a subpoena is used to obtain a depositor's bank records. Pp. 445-446

Further infringements on financial privacy result from the absence of large currency denominations. At one time there were $500 and $1,000 bills in circulation. That is no longer the case. In 1969 they discontinued the $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 demonitations. Try buying a $30,000 car with $100 bills and you quickly see how difficult it is to function in our society with cash.

Worse yet, the Bank Secrecy Act (the astute will quickly gather that this is an anti privacy act) imposes reporting requirements. As a result, the government must be notified if any citizen attempts to conduct business with cash above a threshold. For example, the banks must report anyone who deposits or withdraws more than $10,000 in a given day.

Anyone attempting to purchase money orders or cashiers checks over $3,000 will run into difficulty as a result of the regulations that apply to those money instruments.

As a result, our finances are all open books to the government and we are denied financial privacy.

Are you enjoying your financial privacy and freedom today?

WAKE UP AMERICA... or are you too busy watching Cold Case??

Elmer Fudd said...
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neodemes said...

>>hedge of protection

more like a shrub.

Let's see. All the client records were seized, so even the county records that require searching in person at the county seats will be easy to find.

Even w/o the help from the files, clients are only a Heineman name search away.

WillToFight said...

Seen It In Utah. If anyone lost their home in a forclosure due to Banks acting Badly, the might find confort in the following. Why don't you pass this information to them.

MERS suspends foreclosure activity in Florida

Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems has asked its members to cease foreclosure actions in the name of MERS in Florida pending an appeal of a ruling in the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court in Pinellas County.

In his ruling on Aug. 18, Judge Walt Logan ruled that MERS does not have standing to act as a plaintiff in a mortgage foreclosure suit if it is not the owner of the beneficial interest in the note.

MERS is appealing that decision.

Explain that!

WillToFight said...

The Bank need to hurry their lobbist on Capital Hill to clarify who has standing reference the promissory note!

Let the Truth Be Told!!!!!

Judge Logan challenged the pleadings filed by local foreclosure attorneys due to a lack of clarity in those pleadings regarding ownership of the promissory note.

WillToFight said...

The So-called Borrower is the True Owner of the Promissory Note.

Do you understand Neodomese, Seen It In Utah!

Do you get it. A brave Judge in Florida did what Alsup was too punk to do.

neodemes said...

WillToFight said...
The So-called Borrower is the True Owner of the Promissory Note.


Um, did you read the case?

The borrower isn't even mentioned.
Its all about MERS not the beneficial interest holder and acting as Plaintiff, rather than the true beneficial interest holder, which is apparently another corporation for whom MERS acts as nominee.

While the nominee bit ain't flyin' with the Judge, the question never arises as to the position of the signor of the note, i.e. the borrower.

Do you get it?

son of a prophet said...

The Feast of Tabernacles. “Booths”

The birth of Yeshua?

Leviticus 23: 33-44 tells us the story of the Israelites and their journey out of Egypt and the following 40 years of wondering. We can find the name Sukkoth in Gen. 33:17 “And Jacob journeyed to Succoth; and built for himself a house, and made booths for the livestock, therefore the place is named Sukkoth.” The Hebrew word Sukkoth means “hut”

The Biblical name for Sukkoth is “The Feast of Tabernacles". There are three times the Lord commanded the Jews to assemble in the Temple in Jerusalem. On these three Holidays they were to present offerings to the Lord. Those three are Passover, Shavuoth, (Pentecost) and Sukkoth. Sukkoth is the third and last of the three.

But in the month of Tishri, there are three major Holidays of the Feast of the Tabernacle of the Lord, which is God’s perfect timetable. The month of Tishri falls in September or October on the Christian Calendar. They are Rosh HaShannah, Yom Kippur, and Sukkoth. These three are often called the Second Advent. The First Advent we have the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Passover and First Fruits. Yeshua died on Unleavened Bread, He was buried on Passover, and He rose on First Fruits, 50 days later he sent the Holy Spirit on the Following Feast of Shavuoth (Pentecost). So we see here that God is setting up a pattern for us to look for. So we need to look at the remainder of the three Feasts to see the rest of the story, (sounds like Paul Harvey) something as important as the Birth of the Messiah would surely fit into this pattern.

You can purchase books (Passover Hagadah's) everywhere that tell you about how to celebrate this Holiday so I will stay on subject, and only touch on a couple of things you may not find in some of your books. In general there is a two-fold meaning to this celebration in Israel and throughout the world. The first being the Fall Harvest Lev. 23: that teaches it is a time of bringing in the fall harvest and thanksgiving. Many believe as I do, that the Puritan Colonists who landed in America who were great students of the Hebrew Scriptures based the first American Thanksgiving on Sukkoth.

The second is found in the command to dwell in Booths as a memory to Israel’s 40 years of wondering in the wilderness. Another translation of the world Sukkoth is “habitation” as we camp in booths today we need to remember that the same God is watching over us today. That He inhabits our lives with a care beyond our imagination. Sukkoth is known also as “Zman Simkhatenu” (The Time of Rejoicing) the knowledge that God provided His habitation and lives with us, is certainly a time for rejoicing.

There are blessings said over the “Lulav” (palm branch), “Etrog” (citron, a fruit from Israel that looks like a large lemon) also the “Hadas” (Myrtle) and “Arava” (the youngest branch of the willow before it opens) These are called the four spices. The only reason I am spending some time on this is there is something very special here in Biblical teaching. First the Etrog, which taste sweet and has a delightful aroma, represents a person with knowledge or Torah and good deeds. The Lulav which comes from a Date Palm, a fruit that taste sweet but has no fragrance, meaning that some people have knowledge but no good deeds. The Hadas is just opposite, having a nice fragrance yet no taste (good deeds without true knowledge) Arava has neither taste nor smell and speaks of the persons without knowledge or good deeds. James 2:17 sums this up by saying “Faith without works is dead.”

Now lets move on to the birth of the Messiah. With the celebration of Sukkoth having so many wonderful teaching in it for the Church today. You would think that the New Testament would have reference in it of Sukkoth. We read in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” It says, the Word not only was with God, but the Word was the very manifestation of God Himself.

Then we read in John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, and glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth”. What the Word of God says is, “The Word became a human being and lived with us, and we saw His Sh’kinah, The Sh’kinah glory of the Father’ only Son full of grace and Glory. But did you notice the word John used to described this event. He said “dwelt” among His people. This word dwelt come from a Greek word “skene” and the Greeks translated that from the Hebrew word “Tabernacle”. What I am trying to get you to see is, John was describing the Holy Day of Sukkoth, the Holy Day that celebrates the indwelling of God Himself. So the Word says: And the Word was made flesh and Tabernacled among us,”

The celebration of December 25th as the birth of the Messiah is pagan, and comes from the Roman Empire. The early Church often “christianized” pagan days of celebration to accommodate the new converts. And December shows this very clearly. This date was an ancient feast that celebrated the return of the sun after the winter solatice. It has absolutely nothing to do with the birth of Yeshua. Believers began to say there was no real proof of the Messiah’s birth date so this would do. What they didn’t consider was John’s description using the term “Tabernacle” or Booths or Sukkoth. It is right there before us and so clear I can’t understand how it has been so missed by so many who calls themselves Biblical scholars.

If the first Advent showed Yeshua’s death on the cross on Unleavened Bread, buried on Passover, and resurrection of First Fruits, and the pouring out of His Holy Spirit on Shavout (Pentacost). Do you think that God would let such an important event as the birth of His only begotten Son go unheralded?

Sukkoth shows that God would dwell “Tabernacle” in the midst of His people, through the presence of the Messiah, Yeshua. There is much more evidence as well, since we know that Yeshua died on Passover and we also know His ministry lasted 3 ½ years we can backtrack and that puts us right at Sukkoth as well. Nearly every serious Bible Theologian calculates that His birth was in the fall, that also is Sukkoth.

One of the ceremonies of Sukkoth is the pouring of water, and a time of prayer for water and rain in Israel. During the second Temple period a Priest would take a water pitcher down to the pool of shiloach (today called Siloam in the city of David) he would bring it back to the Temple. Crowds of people would follow him dancing and singing the Hellel, (Psalms 113-118) The highlight of this ceremony was when the Priest would pour this water at the altar of the Temple. It became known as “Simcha Bet-Ha-sho-evah” (The rejoicing of the House of Drawing Water)

The question is, why would there be so much rejoicing at this pouring of water? It has to be more than rejoicing of the future rain on Israel, as important as that might be. Because we read in Isaiah 12:3 “Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation”. (Salvation in Hebrew is Yeshua, the name of the Messiah) GLORY TO GOD.

It was much more than the pouring out of water at the Temple, or even for the rain. The Simcha Bet Ha-sho-evah pointed directly to the coming of the Messiah and the days of redemption when the water of the Holy Spirit would be poured out upon all Israel.

Now we can appreciate the Scripture that was recorded on one day in the Messiah’s life and that day was on a Sukkoth. John 7:37-39 “In the last day, that great day of the feast, Yeshua stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. But this spoke he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given: because Yeshua was not yet glorified.) Think for a moment of the time and place of these words being proclaimed by Yeshua. It was Sukkoth and it was the time of the pouring of the water. The crowds were filled with those who had expectation of the Messiah and the Holy Spirit He would bring. At the moment of the time of the pouring of the water the Messiah stood and made this bold proclamation. He was saying. I am the Messiah, do you truly want the living water of the spirit of God? If you truly want the Bet Ha-sho-evah, believe in me. I am the Messiah who will pour out the Holy Spirit on Israel.

After eight days of Sukkoth we will end this celebration, and on the 8th day our Messiah was circumcised. And from here volumes can be written over that event.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel, and all the IDF soldiers, for this Ministry and your part in it. Shalom, jerry golden

Starfish Prime said...

Son of a Prophet,

"Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

"Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house. He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.

"You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

Indeed, in all of the days since Moses recorded God’s Law in the Torah there had never been an Israelite healed of leprosy. 4 This was strange, because Moses had recorded very specific and detailed instructions that were to be carried out when this occurred. These instructions are recorded in Leviticus 14:1-32, and they were instructions given directly to Moses from the Lord God Himself,

"And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest: And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper; Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop: And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water: As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water: And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

"And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days. But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.

"And on the eighth day he shall take two he lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish, and three tenth deals of fine flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and one log of oil. And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the Lord, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

"And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering, and the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the Lord: And he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the holy place: for as the sin offering is the priest's, so is the trespass offering: it is most holy: And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot: And the priest shall take some of the log of oil, and pour it into the palm of his own left hand: And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the Lord: And of the rest of the oil that is in his hand shall the priest put upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the blood of the trespass offering: And the remnant of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall pour upon the head of him that is to be cleansed: and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the Lord.

"And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering: And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the meat offering upon the altar: and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and he shall be clean."

For about 1500 years these detailed, exhaustive and specific instructions had never been used, because no Jew was ever healed of leprosy. Over the centuries, because these instructions appeared to be so specific and so important, coming from the God of Israel Himself and written down by Moses, the rabbis and the scholars and the religious authorities within Israel developed the belief that the healing of a Jewish leper would first be performed by the Messiah. It would be a Messianic miracle, and by this miracle the people would know that the Messiah had appeared.

Perhaps this explains Jesus’ reference to the healing of lepers during His brief encounter at the synagogue in Nazareth, because after Jesus left Nazareth and continued His ministry in the countryside of Galilee He came upon a man who was completely covered with leprosy,

"When he saw Jesus, he fell with his face to the ground and begged him, ‘Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.’ Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. ‘I am willing,’ he said. ‘Be clean!’ And immediately the leprosy left him. Then Jesus ordered him, ‘Don't tell anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.’ " Luke 5:12-14

After the leper went to the priests in Jerusalem the complicated ceremony commanded by Moses would have begun. The Temple priests were very careful to follow the letter of the Law, so it would have been carried out exactly as called for: First, the two birds would have been taken and prepared according to the details, one killed, the other set free. Then the leper would have shaved all his hair and waited in a tent for seven days. On the seventh day he would have shaved again, and on the eighth he would have brought three lambs, two males and one female, to the priest. In all there would be a meat offering, a trespass offering, a wave offering, a sin offering and a burnt offering. All of them with detailed instructions to be obeyed exactly according to the Law. The first leper ever healed in the history of Israel was no small thing, and word of this miracle quickly spread throughout the land.

This was the first conclusive proof that Jesus offered to the religious leaders of Israel that He was indeed the Messiah. There were many common people within Israel who followed Jesus and looked up to Him, even identifying Him as the Messiah, but in order to be accepted by the entire nation as the promised Messiah it was important that Jesus offer proof to the leaders of Israel.

Aside from the words Jesus spoke in Nazareth near the beginning of His ministry Jesus was fairly reserved when it came to making direct verbal Messianic claims, and He confirmed that He was the Messiah on only a few very private occasions. In public however, Jesus chose to let His actions speak for Him, and to make his case directly to the Sanhedrin, the ruling council of Israel’s religious leaders. Jesus had his eye on these rich and powerful men, and He wanted them to recognize Him for who He was. That is why Jesus told the healed man to tell no one, but to go directly to the Temple priest to present himself, a cured leper, "as a testimony to them."

By the time Jesus appeared, the religious leaders of Israel had been faced with many would-be Messiahs. One of these was Theudas, who had led a group of four hundred men, and another was Judas the Galilean who had led a Messianic revolt around the time of the birth of Jesus (Acts 5:36-37). Over the years the religious leaders developed a system to examine Messianic claims and movements. Their investigation took place in two stages: The first was a period of observation. Members of the Sanhedrin would converge to observe the would-be Messiah and his movement. If the movement showed promise and was worthy of it, then the investigation would move on to the second more serious phase, the stage of interrogation, during which religious experts would intently question the Messianic candidate.

After Jesus healed the leper He received a great deal of attention from Israel’s religious leaders. The following record from Luke 5:17-26 describes an episode of the observation phase,

"One day as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law, who had come from every village of Galilee and from Judea and Jerusalem, were sitting there. And the power of the Lord was present for him to heal the sick. Some men came carrying a paralytic on a mat and tried to take him into the house to lay him before Jesus. When they could not find a way to do this because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and lowered him on his mat through the tiles into the middle of the crowd, right in front of Jesus.

"When Jesus saw their faith, he said, ‘Friend, your sins are forgiven.’ The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, ‘Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?’ Jesus knew what they were thinking and asked, ‘Why are you thinking these things in your hearts? Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins . . .’ He said to the paralyzed man, ‘I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.’ Immediately he stood up in front of them, took what he had been lying on and went home praising God. Everyone was amazed and gave praise to God. They were filled with awe and said, ‘We have seen remarkable things today.’ "

Luke records that Pharisees and experts on the law had come from miles around, from Galilee, Judea and even from Jerusalem, to watch and listen to Jesus. As they listened Jesus made no explicit claim to be the Messiah, but by claiming to have the authority to forgive sins Jesus made an implicit claim to be God, and the Pharisees recognized this immediately. However, they were not here to interrogate Jesus yet, so they mumbled among themselves and reasoned in their hearts. Even so, Jesus knew what they were thinking. He did not deny that He was claiming to be God, rather He backed up His claim to be able to forgive sins by healing the paralyzed man. (Jesus again made this claim to divinity in Luke 7:36-50).

It only took a short while for the Pharisees to move on to the second stage of the investigation. They quickly understood that Jesus was the center of a very important movement within Israel. But from the very beginning Jesus did not fit the pre-conceptions that they held about the coming of the Messiah, and even though Jesus had performed a Messianic miracle they found it hard to accept Him.

After this time the Pharisees followed Jesus just about everywhere He went, and they questioned Him on everything. They tried to find out if any of his teachings went against the Law of Moses or against scriptural Judaism. However, throughout their questioning of Him they found out that His teachings were entirely Scriptural, and that they were even more Scriptural than the Pharisee’s own beliefs which had developed into a system made up of many trivial and nonsensical regulations and man-made traditions.

The Pharisees questioned Jesus on the Sabbath. They did not like it when Jesus’ disciples gathered a few stalks of wheat to eat on the Sabbath. They also thought it wrong that Jesus would heal people on the Sabbath. Jesus showed them wrong on both counts. He told them that the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. He showed the Pharisees that they strictly obeyed the letter of the Law, but were completely ignorant of its intent. Jesus argued that doing a good deed on the Sabbath was entirely within the letter and spirit of the Law.

The Pharisees became upset when they saw Jesus’ disciples eating without washing their hands. Jesus responded that the Pharisees were following man-made rules. And the Pharisees were repulsed when Jesus sat down to eat with people they believed were ‘sinners,’ but Jesus said that He had not come to socialize with righteous people, but to minister to those who needed Him most.

The religious leaders also questioned Jesus on the kingdom of God, the paying of taxes, the matter of divorce, and on the resurrection, and they tested Him on what the greatest commandment was. In turn Jesus questioned them about the Messiah, asking the Pharisees, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?" They answered saying "The son of David." Then Jesus gave them this question, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says [and then Jesus quoted Psalm 110], "The Lord said to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.’ " If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?" The Pharisees could not explain how the Messiah could be David’s son and at the same time be David’s Lord. (Matthew 22:15-46)

The majority of the Pharisees during Jesus’ day were so steeped in their pre-conceptions, their man-made traditions and in their self-righteous attitudes that they could not accept what Jesus was teaching or that He was the Messiah. Time and again Jesus argued with them, and perplexed them, and by doing this He showed the people that these self-righteous "experts" were no match for Him at all. The Pharisees greatly resented this irreverent treatment of them, but Jesus had not come to make these men feel good, to flatter them and win them over. He simply told it like it was. Once He told a crowd, "Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely." (Luke 20:46-47)

At another time Jesus gave this parable that was aimed directly at the religious leaders who believed themselves so holy, "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." (Luke 18:10-14)

And at yet another time Jesus chastised the highest of Israel’s religious leaders saying, "…you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’ "

At this particular occasion Jesus was addressing the very Pharisees who had come from Jerusalem just to hear Him, and the disciples were shocked at the way Jesus treated them. They said to Him, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?" Jesus replied saying, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit." (Matthew 15:6-14)

Jesus taught that Israel’s religious leaders were hypocrites and leading Israel astray. Because of this, their attitude toward Jesus turned more and more negative as He continued to preach and His movement gained momentum.

Starfish Prime said...

Son of a Prophet,

In response to the rejection of Jesus as the Messiah by Israel’s leaders, on the basis that Jesus was possessed by the devil, Jesus had this to say (Matthew 12:25-37),

"Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

"Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house. He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.

"You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

After Israel’s leaders had passed judgment on Jesus, then Jesus gave a judgment upon them. He proclaimed that they had committed the unpardonable sin, which referred to their charge that Jesus was Himself possessed by an evil spirit. In response to Jesus’ condemnation of them the Pharisees were somewhat shocked:

"Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, ‘Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you.’ He answered, ‘A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now one greater than Jonah is here. The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon's wisdom, and now one greater than Solomon is here. When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.’ " Matthew 12:38-45

Jesus had already performed two Messianic miracles and He had been rejected. Jesus condemned them for passing this false judgment on Him and they responded by asking for yet another sign! Jesus responded to their request by predicting the miracle of His resurrection, and he gave a further explanation of what His judgment upon them meant. The unpardonable sin, given as ‘blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,’ was a sin committed by ‘this generation.’ It was an unpardonable sin and the penalty could not be revoked. The result of the punishment would leave the final state of "this generation" worse than the first. A Biblical generation is forty years, and forty years later the city of Jerusalem was destroyed and the Temple was razed to the ground by the Roman army.


The Scapegoat and the Sins of Israel

After the prophet Moses led Israel out of Egypt He recorded the Laws which God gave under which the people of Israel would live. In all there were 613 different laws, which were summarized in the Ten Commandments that were first written in stone by the very finger of God. 5

It was also through Moses that the Hebrew system of blood sacrifice was codified. Individuals were required to provide sacrifices, or offerings, for their sins, to be offered to God by the priests. There were burnt offerings, sin offerings and guilt offerings, all for different types of sins as described in Leviticus 1-7. In addition to the sacrifices made on an individual level there was also a sacrifice that was to be made on a national level, on behalf of the entire nation. This national sacrifice was to be performed by the high priest on the Day of Atonement once each year, and God described this process to Moses in Leviticus 16,

" ‘From the Israelite community he is to take two male goats for a sin offering… Then he is to take the two goats and present them before the LORD at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. He is to cast lots for the two goats--one lot for the LORD and the other for the scapegoat. (He) shall bring the goat whose lot falls to the LORD and sacrifice it for a sin offering. But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD to be used for making atonement by sending it into the desert as a scapegoat. He shall then slaughter the goat for the sin offering for the people and take its blood behind the curtain… He shall sprinkle it on the atonement cover and in front of it. In this way he will make atonement for the Most Holy Place because of the uncleanness and rebellion of the Israelites, whatever their sins have been. He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites--all their sins--and put them on the goat's head. He shall send the goat away into the desert in the care of a man appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a solitary place; and the man shall release it in the desert. This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: On the tenth day of the seventh month you must deny yourselves and not do any work--whether native-born or an alien living among you-- because on this day atonement will be made for you, to cleanse you. Then, before the LORD, you will be clean from all your sins. This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: Atonement is to be made once a year for all the sins of the Israelites.’ And it was done, as the LORD commanded Moses."

Over the years a couple of different traditions were added to this ceremony. On rare occasions the scapegoat, the goat released into the desert, would somehow survive and make its way back into the camp, or back to the Temple. This was considered a terrible omen, so a new custom was instituted whereby the man in charge of the scapegoat would lead it the edge of a cliff, and make sure that the goat fell off the cliff and died.

Over the years the priests also picked up the tradition of tying a cord of red wool to the horns of the scapegoat. Before the goat reached the edge of the cliff half of the scarlet cord would be removed. After the goat was killed the scarlet cord that was saved would then supernaturally change to pure white, and then the priests would know that Israel’s sins were truly forgiven by God. Perhaps this ritual came from Isaiah the prophet who wrote (1:18), "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow." We don’t know for sure who started this part of the ritual, but we do know that God honored it, because it was recorded in the ancient Jewish histories and commentaries that have been preserved over the ages. In fact, here is what is recorded in the Babylonian Talmud, Yoma 39a-39b,

"Our Rabbis taught that throughout the forty years that Shim'on the Tzaddik served... the scarlet cloth would become white. From then on it would sometimes become white and sometimes not.... Throughout the last forty years before the Temple was destroyed... the scarlet cloth never turned white."

Shimon the Tzaddik was a high priest who led Israel well and throughout his service the scarlet cord always turned white upon the death of the scapegoat. After Shimon’s service ended then Israel was found to be in and out of favor with God, and the cord did not always turn white. But then at a certain point exactly forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, the cord ceased to ever turn white again. This corresponds to the very year in which Israel’s religious leaders rejected Jesus as the Messiah on the basis that He was possessed by a demon. Israel’s leaders, that generation of Israel, had committed the unpardonable sin and God did not forgive them, a fact proven by the Jewish records themselves.

WillToFight said...

Again Neodomenesassfacekissup does not get it!

neodemes said...

I'll take that as 'No' you didn't read or comprehend what the case is about, WTF.

Go back to your trailer park and do your homework.

Or not.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic.


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Starfish Prime said...

Son of a Prophet,

The Feast of Tabernacles

Jesus of Nazareth’s most scathing indictment of Israel’s religious leaders is recorded in Matthew 23,

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

"Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’

"But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ. The greatest among you will be your servant. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.’ You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

(The Pharisees were so careful to follow the Law requiring a ten-percent tithe that they even tithed their kitchen condiments! Jesus pointed out that they were right in giving tithe, but they had forgotten what was most important: "justice, mercy and faithfulness.")

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!

"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate."

In the face of this type of preaching from Jesus, after they had rejected Him on the false basis that He was demon-possessed, the Sanhedrin instituted a policy of excommunicating anyone who stated publicly a belief that Jesus was the Messiah. They had already ruled on the matter and anyone contradicting them would be thrown out of the synagogue and removed from the Jewish community. At about this time certain members of the Sanhedrin also began to plot of a way to kill Jesus and be rid of Him entirely. This created a great deal of problems for Jesus and His disciples and it also created a stumbling block to any respected citizens who might still be considering Jesus, because to accept Him for who He was would make one an outcast and result in the complete loss of all social standing. This was the atmosphere surrounding Jesus as the Feast of Tabernacles approached. For this reason Jesus waited and went to the holy festival in Jerusalem in secret, apart from His family and apart from His disciples (John 7 and 8):

"Not until halfway through the Feast did Jesus go up to the temple courts and begin to teach. The Jews were amazed and asked, ‘How did this man get such learning without having studied?’ Jesus answered,

‘My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him. Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?’ ‘You are demon-possessed,’ the crowd answered. ‘Who is trying to kill you?’

Then Jesus proceeded to rebuke the Pharisees for their teachings regarding the Sabbath. Jesus asked why it was forbidden by them to heal people on the Sabbath, yet circumcision was allowed on the Sabbath!

"At that point some of the people of Jerusalem began to ask, ‘Isn't this the man they are trying to kill? Here he is, speaking publicly, and they are not saying a word to him."

Despite the danger Jesus continued to speak out in the midst of the temple courts,

" 'Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him, but I know him because I am from him and he sent me.' At this they tried to seize him, but no one laid a hand on him, because his time had not yet come. Still, many in the crowd put their faith in him. They said, ‘When the Christ comes, will he do more miraculous signs than this man?’

"The Pharisees heard the crowd whispering such things about him. Then the chief priests and the Pharisees sent temple guards to arrest him. Jesus said, ‘I am with you for only a short time, and then I go to the one who sent me. You will look for me, but you will not find me; and where I am, you cannot come.’ The Jews said to one another, ‘Where does this man intend to go that we cannot find him? Will he go where our people live scattered among the Greeks, and teach the Greeks? What did he mean when he said, ‘You will look for me, but you will not find me,’ and ‘Where I am, you cannot come?’

"On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, ‘If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him.’ By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

"On hearing his words, some of the people said, ‘Surely this man is the Prophet.’ Others said, ‘He is the Christ.’ Still others asked, ‘How can the Christ come from Galilee? Does not the Scripture say that the Christ will come from David's family and from Bethlehem, the town where David lived?’ Thus the people were divided because of Jesus. Some wanted to seize him, but no one laid a hand on him. Finally the temple guards went back to the chief priests and Pharisees, who asked them, ‘Why didn't you bring him in?’ ‘No one ever spoke the way this man does,’ the guards declared. ‘You mean he has deceived you also?’ the Pharisees retorted. ‘Has any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed in him? No! But this mob that knows nothing of the law--there is a curse on them.’

"Nicodemus, who had gone to Jesus earlier and who was one of their own number, asked, ‘Does our law condemn anyone without first hearing him to find out what he is doing?’ They replied, ‘Are you from Galilee, too? Look into it, and you will find that a prophet does not come out of Galilee.’ Then each went to his own home.

Some of the people who heard Jesus speak out believed that He was the Christ (the Greek word for ‘Messiah’), and even Nicodemus, himself a Pharisee, tried to defend Him. However, the other Pharisees used peer pressure and the bogus argument that no prophet could come from Galilee, to try to influence them. The next day Jesus came to the temple courts again, and after speaking out against the Pharisees they responded to Him with their same old accusation,

"The Jews answered him, ‘Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?’

‘I am not possessed by a demon,’ said Jesus, ‘but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.’

At this the Jews exclaimed, ‘Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that if anyone keeps your word, he will never taste death. Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?’

Jesus replied, ‘If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.’

‘You are not yet fifty years old,’ the Jews said to him, ‘and you have seen Abraham!’

‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds."

When Jesus claimed to be the great "I Am" He was making a definitive and obvious claim to be the Pre-Existent One. He was claiming to be God in the flesh. The Pharisees responded by trying to stone Him to death, which was the Lawful penalty for blasphemy, but Jesus was able to hide from them and He left the Temple grounds.


A Third Messianic Miracle

After Jesus was able to make His escape from the wrath of the Pharisees He performed yet another miracle that offered definitive proof that He was the Messiah (John 9):

"As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?’ ‘Neither this man nor his parents sinned,’ said Jesus, ‘but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.’ Having said this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes. ‘Go,’ he told him, ‘wash in the Pool of Siloam.’ "

At the time of Jesus it was not unheard of for people to be healed of blindness. If you became blind from a disease, or from a wound, then there was always hope that you might one day see again. It was different, however, if you were born blind. If this was the case then there was no hope for you, because this type of blindness had never been cured. This was another miracle that, according to tradition, could only be performed by the Messiah.

"So the man went and washed, and came home seeing. His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging asked, ‘Isn't this the same man who used to sit and beg?’ Some claimed that he was. Others said, ‘No, he only looks like him.’ But he himself insisted, ‘I am the man.’ ‘How then were your eyes opened?’ they demanded. He replied, ‘The man they call Jesus made some mud and put it on my eyes. He told me to go to Siloam and wash. So I went and washed, and then I could see.’ ‘Where is this man?’ they asked him. ‘I don't know,’ he said."

People were so amazed at this miracle that many refused to believe that this was the very same man who was born blind. When he emphatically stated that he was the man then they were extremely curious as to how he was healed.

"They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind. Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened the man's eyes was a Sabbath. Therefore the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. ‘He put mud on my eyes,’ the man replied, ‘and I washed, and now I see.’ Some of the Pharisees said, ‘This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.’ But others asked, ‘How can a sinner do such miraculous signs?’ So they were divided. Finally they turned again to the blind man, ‘What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened.’ The man replied, ‘He is a prophet.’ "

Jesus was guilty of both healing and making mud on the Sabbath! That was the most important problem to be dealt with as far as the Pharisees were concerned. They also refused to believe that this man had been born blind.

"The Jews still did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight until they sent for the man's parents. ‘Is this your son?’ they asked. ‘Is this the one you say was born blind? How is it that now he can see?’ ‘We know he is our son,’ the parents answered, ‘and we know he was born blind. But how he can see now, or who opened his eyes, we don't know. Ask him. He is of age; he will speak for himself.’ "

Of course the man’s parents knew by now how their son had been healed, but they answered the Pharisee’s interrogation by simply saying "yes, he is our son," and "yes, he was born blind." The apostle John explains why they did not say much else:

"His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jews, for already the Jews had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Christ would be put out of the synagogue. That was why his parents said, ‘He is of age; ask him.’ "

It was already well known that it was forbidden to acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, so the parents were careful to avoid making this sort of suggestion. They did not want to be excommunicated and cast out of the synagogue. The Pharisees then decided that they needed to talk to the blind man again:

"A second time they summoned the man who had been blind. ‘Give glory to God,’ they said. ‘We know this man is a sinner.’ He replied, ‘Whether he is a sinner or not, I don't know. One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!’ Then they asked him, ‘What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?’ He answered, ‘I have told you already and you did not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you want to become his disciples, too?’ "

Apparently the man who had been born blind was becoming quite fed-up with the hypocrisy that was being shown by the Pharisees. He mocked them by asking, "Do you want to become His disciples, too?" This did not go over very well with the Pharisees:

"Then they hurled insults at him and said, ‘You are this fellow's disciple! We are disciples of Moses! We know that God spoke to Moses, but as for this fellow, we don't even know where he comes from.’"

This man, after finally receiving his sight after a lifetime of darkness, refused to be intimidated by the Pharisees. He knew they were looking for anything that might discredit Jesus in any way, but he continued to stand up to them:

"The man answered, ‘Now that is remarkable! You don't know where he comes from, yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly man who does his will. Nobody has ever heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.’ "

Yes, the Pharisees could not avoid the fact that this man had been born blind, and he threw this fact back in their faces. This miracle was entirely unheard of. It was an undeniable Messianic miracle. But the Pharisees had heard enough:

"To this they replied, ‘You were steeped in sin at birth; how dare you lecture us!’ And they threw him out."

This courageous man was excommunicated from the synagogue, and he now faced a life outside of the Jewish community. However, Jesus made sure to find the man again, to speak to him eye to eye for the first time:

"Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, ‘Do you believe in the Son of Man?’ ‘Who is he, sir?’ the man asked. ‘Tell me so that I may believe in him.’ Jesus said, ‘You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.’ Then the man said, ‘Lord, I believe,’ and he worshiped him. Jesus said, ‘For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind.’ Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked, "What? Are we blind too?’ Jesus said, ‘If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.’ "

Jesus continued to speak, and he then gave the parable of the Good Shepherd. He ended His talk by predicting that God had given Him the power to give His life, and to then take it up again. These amazing claims again caused a division among the crowd that was listening to Him:

"Many of them said, ‘He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?’ But others said, ‘These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?’"

son of a prophet said...

Even after Yeshua healed the leper, the Pharisees could not recognise Him, because they were expecting the Messiah to usher in the Messianic Kingdom on earth.

Bereft of the Holy Spirit, they could not uderstand what Yeshua said when He went one on one with satan on the mountain....

Satan: (to Yeshua) "Behold, all these Kingdoms, are yours, IF you throw yourself down the side of this mountain."

Yeshua: "It is written, 'Thou shalt not tempt the LORD thy God.'"

Why did not Yeshua say..."By whose authority do you offer me these Kingdoms?" or "You cannot offer me these Kingdoms, for they are already mine."?

Yeshua did not say either of these because He knew whose Kingdoms (on earth) they belong to: satan.

Again, Yeshua's Kingdom is yet to come, and then as now, it currently belongs to satan and will until He returns after the repture.

Peace of Yeshua be with you.

Starfish Prime said...


getmeoffthisride said...

Great bible study. We are freed from the law because of Jesus the Christ! Now that's something to celebrate!

getmeoffthisride said...

Sorry, I should've said that Jews can be freed from the law, Gentiles were never were expected to be a part of the law.

mogel said...

In LARGE NUMBERS OF foreclosures, it seems, MERS, is the nominee, or agent that is representing the ALLEGED "holder in due course" or NOTEHOLDER OR SERVICER of the note. Recently a Florida Court Judge, has ruled that a bunch of foreclosures are improper in the state of Flordia because MERS has no legal standing to foreclose or even represent the real plaintiff for many legal reasons.
Check & see if MERS is a nominee on your mortgage. If so, this Case would be a huge defense for you if MERS ever tried to foreclose on you, improperly representing the lender in due course:

Court: Do you feel as though it would be reasonable for the Courts to be presented with a chain of title as to where the Note started and HOW IT GOT TO MERS?

Attorney for MERS: No I do not.

Attorney for MERS: I don't. And, in fact, not only do I think it's not reasonable, often that's going to be IMPOSSIBLE.



Elmer Fudd said...

Starfish Prime said...

LoL Starpastey you say Amen, then on the other hand as soon as someone disagrees with you, then the cursing comes out. You two face heathen you better repent.