Monday, October 17, 2005

Four Months to the Day 9/28/05

Well I finally saw Scotty and was delighted to find him full of courage and ready to fight our foolish foe. God has taken him through his doubts and now will take him to victory. We were taken to court but never left the holding cell. They told us our lawyers rescheduled. Funny, I don’t have one. I actually like this action since it appears to be separating us from the defendants, which is all I try to accomplish when present. Now I can just not go and have the same effect. I have put all on notice I will not attend court without an order of a judge demanding it. Now some common sense... Utah case is over. The feds can’t let them prosecute on the chance I win and it effect their case. Besides the 1500 years I’m facing in the feds should be enough to hold me. The next way you can tell Utah will drop the case is the feds said they were going to let them prosecute in their press (lie) release. How do you know government is lying? Their lips are moving. Hey with good time I can be out in 1200 years. Will somebody tell me what the millennium was like? The bigger the numbers the bigger the bluff. Welcome to the World Series of Poker folks.

99 comments:

Starfish Prime said...

My only question is if you win, Kurt, will that set the stage for a single government or religion or central bank?? It was my guess that the bankers would play a key role in the End Times.

If Kurt wins, what, then, is to be that which would set the stage to usher in the End Times??

imbigo said...

starfish, starfish, starfish...

No disrespect, but I thought we agreed that you were going to do some Bible studies. The end times started over 2,000 years ago!!!!.
The stage is allready set, let me help if I may ( again this is not meant to disrespect at all.) Focus more on your personal relationship with the Master ( JESUS ) than on end time, prophesy, ect... The relationship is way more important!

If your really concerned say a prayer for our Brothers Scott and Kurt and their strenth to endure.

Gods Speed my freind, will get there together!!!

BIG "O" 1+1+1=1

Starfish Prime said...

Imbigo,

I agree on the relationship part.. but I think YOU are wrong claiming that the End Times have been here for the last 2,000 years. THAT was when the Messiah came. NO ONE will know when the Lord will return.. no one..

then to claim it has happened already (2,000 years ago) is absurd.

The stage has been set, sure, but a victory over the Bankers would seem like a good thing for all..and evil would seem to have lost it's instrument to gain the power to the extent that "it" wants..over the Earth.

It just would seem like an unexpected turn of events and not in line with what is to come and I know that Kurt is NOT the second coming of Christ... so back to the drawing board for you..

dgwondering said...

Kurt: "How do you know government is lying? Their lips are moving."

And how do you know Kurt is lying?

Stuff appears on this blog.

Starfish Prime said...

Dgwondering,

...................... now go to your room and think about what you've just done.

Starfish Prime said...

Imbigo,

According to the prophecies of Daniel, the Antichrist will arise out of a single kingdom that dominates the entire world (7:23-24). The Antichrist may appear before this predicted New World Order, but he will not take over effective control until after it has been established. The so-called "New World Order Conspiracy" suffers greatly from ridicule in the mainstream media, but it is a reality nonetheless, with many different, yet inter-related supporting factions.

Three of the most important factions are:

The International Bankers Cabal- the monetary powers who rule behind the scenes.
A handful of families have, little by little over the centuries, gained control of virtually the entire world through their creation of central banks in the different economic centers of the world. First in Continental Europe, then in England, and then in America through the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The banks these families own, despite the fact that they have names like the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve (sic) Bank of New York, the Bank of France, the Bundesbank-Germany, etc, are not institutions that exist by the people and for the people, but are instead completely private institutions that operate purely for the profit of the small group of elites who own them. This is how the United States Treasury has amassed a debt of trillions of dollars (a debt which we the people are responsible for), while the Federal Reserve has never been more profitable (a profit enjoyed by the owners of the Fed). Yet this incredible state of affairs is almost never commented on by the media, and those who call for eliminating the Fed and returning financial controls back to the public are labeled as kooks and extremists.

The situation is even worse in the Third World where, after half a century of "aid" from institutions like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, these countries find themselves in a condition of perpetual debt and poverty that has stemmed from their reliance on high-interest loans that have often been squandered by their despotic leaders. The homepage of the official website for the World Bank (worldbank.org) is emblazoned with the headline, "Our Dream is a World Free of Poverty." The fact is that the World Bank is one of a handful of institutions most responsible for the pathetic situation that the Third World is currently mired in. Bruce Rich, a former consultant to the World Bank, demonstrates this very conclusively in his book "Mortgaging the Earth," and many other critics have amassed significant data and research proving this conclusion as well.

The march to a socialist, dictatorial New World Order is led by the men who control the world's money, and many believe it will be ushered in by a pre-meditated and manipulated world financial markets crash which will, as did the crash prior to America's Great Depression, act to transfer wealth from the masses back to the central banks, and to transfer power from the masses to a small circle of elitists bureaucrats. Benjamin Creme, in his lectures and writings, has stated many times that the appearance of Maitreya will be accompanied by a major stock market crash and a global financial meltdown.

The United Nations- the diplomatic/political arm of the NWO.
The UN is an organization that was created immediately after World War II to aid the moneyed elite in their goal of establishing a one world socialist government. Since that time it has steadily gained influence and respect. For the most part the UN is a benevolent organization with goals of world peace, ending poverty and hunger and stopping disease, yet there are many sinister aspects of this organization as well. The UN is striving to have all religions respected and acknowledged as equal in truth, and is promoting a ban, aimed at evangelical Christians, on all forms of proselytizing. The United Nations is also pushing for a worldwide ban on civilian gun ownership and it is promoting abortion as a "human right." The UN is also working towards the establishment of a permanent "police force," and supporting the formation of a permanent World Criminal Court.

All of these goals have the effect of limiting personal liberty and giving control and influence of many aspect of public life into the hands of unelected bureaucrats. Can we trust them to make the best decisions for individuals and the world as a whole? Increasingly we are being forced to accept their rules whether we agree with them or not.

The New Age Movement- the spiritual force motivating the NWO.
Alice Bailey and the Lucis Trust were staunch supporters of the formation of the UN. In her channeled writings it has often been stated that the UN is the organization whereby a united and peaceful world will be established. For years this occultic New Age organization was headquartered on UN property at the UN Plaza, until recently moving to a location on Wall Street. In 1950 the Secretary-General of the UN at the time, Dag Hammarskjold, designed the official UN Meditation Room and it was given over to the Lucis Trust, which has maintained it to this day. Share International also speaks highly of the UN. An SI columnist, Bette Stockbauer, writes this of the UN, "Maitreya and his group of spiritual co-workers have designed a plan that is brilliant in its simplicity and insight. They visualize a world organization, administered by the United Nations, which will completely restructure our economic systems. Instead of the present system of domination by market forces which has led to the complete polarization of wealth, we will see an equitable distribution of planetary resources. Instead of a world in which the richest societies blindly ignore the total degradation of countless millions, we will see the greatest solicitude for human suffering."

The basic tenet of New Age belief is that all religions come from the same source, and that all serve their own limited purposes and point to a higher truth. New Age belief understands that all successful religions recognize the Golden Rule of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Within Christianity this Rule is understood as the second most important commandment, yet NA belief elevates this commandment to prime status and dispenses with Christianity's most important commandment as irrelevant (see Matthew 22:34-40). With this basis the New Age movement welcomes a New World Order that will be based on socialism and the priorities of human evolution and environmental protection, and the global elites who actually control the mechanisms that could produce a NWO are deceiving countless well-meaning New Age believers into supporting their goals.

The Final Goal

Foster Bailey, the husband of Alice Bailey, referred to Hitler's Third Reich as an attempt to put the 'Plan' into action. The next totalitarian experiment is just on the horizon and New Agers, communists, socialists, liberals, and other left-wing intellectuals and activists are ready to embrace it with open arms. Once again the tried and true technique of the Hegelian Dialectic is being used by the global powers to achieve their desired goal. On the one hand the moneyed elites are promoting full-scale global capitalism through the policies of the IMF and the WTO. This system puts profit as the ultimate goal, promotes greed, selfishness and materialism, contributes to environmental degradation, and places the third world in a system of indentured servitude. Yet on the other hand the moneyed elites have a history of supporting communism and socialism through their complicated network of private trusts and media control. They engineered the creation of the UN and they have infiltrated the global environmental movement. Why would the powers responsible for the present system of out-of-control global capitalism also promote the very forces which seem to be against it? Because they see neither global capitalism nor idealistic democratic socialism as the ultimate goal. By playing both sides they aim to achieve the desired synthesis which will be a totalitarian New World Order under their complete control (at least until the Antichrist takes command).

To verify the New World Order data please go here- http://www.redmoonrising.com/NWO.htm


End-Times Babylon

The 17th and 18th chapters of the book of Revelation offer a detailed description of the last great secular superpower that the world will see. She is shown as a woman that is dressed in "linen, purple and scarlet," and named Babylon the Great. She is referred to as a great city, but other prophecies make it clear that she represents more than just a single city.

- This woman is said to effectively rule over the kings of the earth.
- The great city of Babylon is referred to as the "city of power."
- Geographically she resides "on many waters," and is composed of a melting pot of cultures.
- In Old Testament scriptures Babylon was the home to Jewish exiles, and this is implied of end-times Babylon as well.

These are all important clues regarding the identity of end-times Babylon, but by far the majority of the descriptive emphasis is placed on the fact that she is the world's foremost economic power:

- Babylon is described as the wealthiest nation on the earth, basking in her "excessive luxuries."
- She is described as being the home to the "merchants of the earth," and these merchants are called "the world's great men."
- Her crimes include seducing the world through the luxuries that are peddled by her global merchants.
- Her general attitude is described as one of supreme self-confidence and arrogance, but when the great city is suddenly destroyed the merchants of the world weep with grief because of their terrible loss.

After the sudden destruction of the great city of Babylon the remnant of end-times Babylon appears to resist the New World Order and the conquests of the Antichrist. However this resistance is ultimately crushed and the nation is absorbed into the Antichrist's kingdom as related in Revelation 17:17-18, "The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled."

TwinGift94 said...

I'm all in Kurt. Now the stare down between us and our foe begins. Who is going to blink first and fold? Now lets see who has the guts to face the facts of this case. All rise.....to be continued.

Starfish Prime said...
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Starfish Prime said...

Dgwondering thinks our government never tells a lie.. awwwwww.

I feel sorry for the little guy... he's gonna get his heart broken.

Starfish Prime said...

So let me get this straight..if Kurt wins in Court does that mean an end to the Federal Reserve System or is it just an overhauling of the mortgage industry.. if the latter were the case then I could see Kurt victorious as far as mortgage fraud goes..but what then of the Bankers International Cabal?... input anyone ?

Starfish Prime said...

www.pqi.cc has something that people might find interesting... they are on the right track..

Starfish Prime said...

http://www.pqi.cc/Q1.cfm

Most Importantly...

neodemes said...

TwinGift94 said...
I'm all in Kurt. Now the stare down between us and our foe begins. Who is going to blink first and fold? Now lets see who has the guts to face the facts of this case.

TwinGift94 ALSO said...
We sit here in judgement with nothing on the line. Kurt and Scott are the ones who will ultimately sacrifice.

***
It should be easy enough for YOU not to blink, David, eh?

'All in' to you means what, exactly?

LOL

Starfish Prime said...

Neodemes,

I think I understand the "emotion" that went behind the post. Too literal are you Neo..

TRANSLATION: "He stands with Kurt and is prepared to deal with whatever may come his way (for what it's worth Kurt did mention, Neo, that the government would look into the DG CLIENTS as well)" but also realizes that we are all here on the blog with nothing on the line as far as facing the kind of hard-time Kurt and Scott are.. or put better, "easier said than done"

neodemes said...

Thanks for clarifying that, starfish.

I tend to doubt that the clients will ever be gone after.

The brokers and agents, though, well, that's another story.

getmeoffthisride said...

It almost sounds as if there won't be any settlement now.

TwinGift94 said...

Thanks for the clarification/support starfish......

Right now I am in a legal battle holding lenders accountable for TILA, FFLA (Florida Fair Lending Act) and HOEPA violations which includes both state and federal implications. This legal showdown is now in its 3rd year and they (the lenders) are now in an uphill battle to defend their actions while at first basically telling me I was crazy. Legal remedies are very unpredictable and lengthly; I anticipate Kurt/Scott's litigation to go on for some time. Its also hard to predict timeframes so lets give them some slack and relax.

Fight for what you believe in and never give up if you think you are right. Naysayers are just that; they jump ship quick when things heat up and then jump back on the bandwagon when its convenient to do so.

AgentR said...

Gentlemen,
An excellent review of the history of the Christian church and insight into the end times and what brings it on can be found in a book titled The Great Controversy. If someone can provide an address, I'd like to send Kurt and Scott a copy.

livinginxs said...

Has anyone seen the acutual federal charges against Kurt & Scott? If so where could I view them?

son of a prophet said...

A previous post posited the query as to whether the Dorean Process is contributing to the evetnual incoming of the "Beast system" as described in the Book of Revelation.

Here are some of my thoughts and cogitations on the issue......

In fact, I do believe that the Dorean process is a part of the eventual establishemt of the 'Beast system' as described in Revelation.
This is one reason why I believe that it will ultimately be successful or at least lead to change. I also believe that HESARA will ultimately come about also for the same reasons given.

Having said this, do I believe that it is necessarily wrong for a Christian to participate in either of these or feel guilt about doing so?? NO! I do not belive that it is inherently wrong for a Christian to particiapte in either or any future devised similar programs.

At first blush, it may seem that my positions are contrdictory. They are not.

A Christian may/must use all legal resources availalble to him to provide. Some of these in fact may have been provided by Yeshua Himself. And dont worry, any sin incurred has been paid for by Yeshua Himself and you will also incur payment in this life as well. So, I would do what is needed to provide for myself and my family and let God sort out all deal with all the consequences of my actions.

One must however be very careful as to how one applies this principle. (not principal-which is $$$$)

Fro exmample, according to the bible, one should not kill to save/protect/provide for his family as the bible says that 'thou shalt not kill.' It did not say that 'thou shalt not kill except to protect/save/provide for ones family.'

This is an admitted difficult concept to understand, but nevertheless, that is what the bible teaches. Agian, one would be killing another to survive in what we know is satans kingdom,(earth) as previously discussed in an earlier post. Yeshua prohibits this.

Peace of Yeshua be with you.

Starfish Prime said...

Reading quotations from one of her earlier books, I instantly recognized that she had plagiarized from John Milton's Paradise Lost, yet she claimed that she SAW these details of his classic poem in a vision from God!!! This is heretical!

I would advise anyone who reads The Great Controversy or any other book written by Ellen White to also familiarize yourself with the following website: http://www.ellenwhite.org/index.html or The White Lie, by Walter Rea

Starfish Prime said...

Livinginxs,

9/22/2005 6:51:00 PM

To: National Desk

Contact: U.S. Department of Justice, 415-436-7200

OAKLAND, Calif., Sept. 22 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The United States Attorney's Office for the Northern District of California and the FBI announced that a federal grand jury in Oakland indicted Dale Scott Heineman, 45, Kurt F. Johnson, 42, and the Dorean Group in a 46-count indictment charging mail fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy to commit wire fraud, mail fraud and bank fraud.

The principals of the Dorean Group are Dale Scott Heineman of Union City, California, and Kurt F. Johnson, of Sunnyvale, California. They, along with the Dorean Group and entities associated with the Dorean Group, are charged with operating a debt elimination scheme whereby fraudulent documents are recorded as part of the title of their clients' properties, causing home mortgage and equity loans to falsely appear satisfied when they actually had not been paid. With this fraudulently-generated free and clear title, certain clients, at the direction of the Dorean Group, obtained hundreds of thousands of dollars in home equity loans from independent lenders.

The charges in the indictment relate to 17 properties in California, Nevada, Texas, North Carolina, Florida, Colorado, Washington, Idaho, and South Carolina with a value of over $5 million. The FBI is continuing to investigate more than 480 properties throughout 35 states with a potential value of $88 million in loans that may have been affected by this alleged scheme. The FBI is investigating properties in 19 California counties affected by this alleged scheme.

U.S. Attorney Kevin V. Ryan stated, "Homeowners should be cautious of offers that sound too good to be true. This alleged scheme violates mortgage agreements between the lender and borrower and taints property titles by recording false documents on the title of a home. Manipulating property titles and interfering with mortgage loans with the intent to defraud is illegal and will result in prosecution."

Joseph Ford, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI in San Francisco, stated, "Mr. Heineman and Mr. Johnson are accused of being con artists in a sophisticated telemarketing scheme. They are alleged to have incorporated the internet to further their criminal enterprise which is nationwide in scope and has significant impact on the housing market in the U.S. Because cyber space has no borders, the FBI is working with its law enforcement partners from around the world to address these growing crime problems."

According to the indictment, the Dorean Group is an unlicensed and unincorporated entity that has been operating a purported debt elimination program since at least January 2004. The Dorean Group uses brokers to promote its program. On various websites, the Dorean Group and its brokers publically advertise that they have a "PROVEN, legal and moral way of eliminating your mortgage while adding $32K to your pocket (based on a $200,000 mortgage)."

According to the indictment, the Dorean Group's scheme to defraud operated as follows:

(1) Fee: The client pays an up-front fee of approximately $1,000 to $3,000 per loan to be eliminated and promises to make a "free-will offering of 50 percent of the REDEEMED mortgage." The redeemed mortgage refers to a subsequent equity loan (inaccurately dubbed a refinance loan in websites promoting this scheme) that is obtained from a separate lender based upon the false premise that the initial mortgage loan secured by the property had been fully satisfied.

(2) Transfer of Title: Once the initial fee is paid, the Dorean Group forms a trust with its client, the trustees of which are Heineman and Johnson. The client records a quitclaim deed with the local county recorder's office, which allegedly transfers the borrower's title interests to this trust. However, mortgage agreements between a borrower and a lender generally require the lender's consent before the borrower may transfer his/her title interests. According to the indictment, no lender has granted Heineman, Johnson, or the Dorean Group permission to act on behalf of the borrower under the applicable mortgage agreements.

(3) Self-Executing Presentment Packet: The Dorean Group subsequently mails a "selfexecuting presentment packet" to the lender of its client's loan. In this packet, the Dorean Group claims to act on behalf of the borrower and demands the lender prove the validity of its loan "to the unilateral satisfaction of the Dorean Group" within 10 days. If the lender fails to take this opportunity, documents in the packet allege that, due to the lender's "tacit assent" and "default," Heineman and/or Johnson of the Dorean Group will act as the lender's agent and attorney-in- fact as to the loan and the secured property. In addition, if the lender elects to prove the validity of the loan, but fails to meet this burden, the lender is purportedly liable to the Dorean Group for damages twenty times the amount of the loan.

(4) Substitution of Trustee: After 10 days has elapsed, Heineman, Johnson and the Dorean Group prepare a "Substitution of Trustee," or, depending on jurisdiction, a "Specific Power of Attorney" or "Power of Attorney," that is recorded as part of the title to its client's property. This recordation claims that Heineman and/or Johnson is acting as agent and attorney-in-fact on behalf of the lender. According to the indictment, no lender has authorized Heineman, Johnson or the Dorean Group to act either as its agent or attorney-in-fact.

(5) Full Reconveyance: Under this false representation, Heineman, Johnson and the Dorean Group prepare a "Full Reconveyance" or, depending on jurisdiction, "Discharge of Mortgage" or "Satisfaction of Mortgage," that is recorded as part of the title to its client's property. In this document, Heineman and/or Johnson of the Dorean Group - allegedly acting on behalf of the lender - represents that the loan secured by the property has been fully paid, when the loan had not, in fact, been repaid. In this recordation, Heineman and/or Johnson purportedly transfers the lender's secured interests in the client's property to the client's trust established by the Dorean Group, causing title of the property to falsely appear free and clear of any encumbrances.

(6) Subsequent Home Equity Loan: With what appears to be free and clear title, the Dorean Group directs its clients to obtain a subsequent "refinance" or home equity loan from a separate lender, with the property serving as the security underlying this loan. When the loan disbursement loan is made, the Dorean Group receives 50 percent of its proceeds, the Dorean Group broker receives approximately 10-25 percent of the funds, and the Dorean Group client keeps the remaining 25-40 percent of the loan. The refinance loan is expected to be subject to the Dorean Group's debt elimination program and is not repaid.

Mr. Heineman and Mr. Johnson were previously arrested on state charges filed in Salt Lake City, Utah. They are currently being held in custody in Salt Lake County Metro Jail in Salt Lake City, Utah. No bail arrest warrants were issued as to both Mr. Heineman and Mr. Johnson as a result of this indictment and will be lodged with the Salt Lake County Metro Jail. An initial appearance on this indictment is not yet scheduled, as the Third District Court of the State of Utah, which has primary custody over Mr. Heineman and Mr. Johnson as a result of the pending state charges, must first determine when they can be made available for that purpose.

On July 6, 2005, the Civil Division of the United States Attorney's Office filed a complaint for injunctive relief pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 1345, and a motion for a temporary restraining order directing that Messrs. Heineman and Johnson, doing business as the Dorean Group, stop marketing and operating their mortgage elimination scheme. On July 6, 2005, Judge William H. Alsup granted the government's motion for a temporary restraining order.

On August 1, 2005, Judge Alsup converted the temporary restraining order to a preliminary injunction, restraining the Dorean Group from engaging in any activities related to its mortgage elimination scheme, pending final judgment in the civil action.

The maximum statutory penalty for each count of mail fraud in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1341 and affecting a financial institution is 30 years imprisonment and a fine of $1,000,000, plus restitution. The maximum statutory penalty for each count of bank fraud in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1344 is 30 years imprisonment and a fine of $1,000,000, plus restitution. The maximum statutory penalty for each count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud, wire fraud and bank fraud in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1349 is 30 years imprisonment and a fine of $1,000,000, plus restitution. However, any sentence following conviction would be imposed by the court after consideration of the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and the federal statute governing the imposition of a sentence, 18 U.S.C. 3553.

An indictment contains only allegations against an individual and, as with all defendants, Mr. Heineman, Mr. Johnson and the Dorean Group must be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

James Keller is the Assistant U.S. Attorney who is prosecuting the case and Steven Saltiel is the Assistant U.S. Attorney who handled the government's application for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunctive relief against the Dorean Group. The prosecution is the result of a nine-month investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Several state law enforcement entities, including the Alameda County District Attorney's Office and the California Attorney General's Office, among others, provided valuable assistance and information about this alleged scheme to the United States Attorney's Office.

Further Information:

A copy of this press release and related court filings may be found on the U.S. Attorney's Office's website at http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/can.

Electronic court filings and further procedural and docket information are available at https://ecf.cand.uscourts.gov/ (click on the link for "to retrieve documents from the court").

Judges' calendars with schedules for upcoming court hearings can be viewed on the court's website at http://www.cand.uscourts.gov.

All press inquiries to the U.S. Attorney's Office should be directed to Luke Macaulay at (415) 436-6757 or by email at Luke.Macaulay@usdoj.gov.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

Starfish Prime said...

Son of a Prophet,

NESARA.US is a FRAUD!! The real one is NESARA.ORG!!

I do not believe NESARA will go anywhere but people's conspiracy scams via "DONATIONS" to get it "announced"

Starfish Prime said...

NESARA is an acronym for the National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act, which is a legislative proposal that merely reintroduces specie as alternative currencies to help combat anti-inflationary policies of the paper currency. The NESARA proposal is sponsored by the “NESARA Institute”, having offices at 7635 Jefferson Highway, No. 354, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70809 (Ph: 864-886-0657). Although the NESARA proposal has been presented to many Congresspersons over the years, and some have expressed interest in the proposal, it hasn't yet built up sufficient support for even introduction to Committee, much less to a full vote by Congress. Maybe someday the NESARA proposal will find support in Congress and may be presented for a vote, but that really isn't the point of this webpage. (You can read all about NESARA at www.nesara.org). The point of this webpage is that when certain scam artists claim that NESARA has been "enacted into law" by "secret Acts of Congress" they are telling a great big lie and total fabrication because NESARA has never even been formally made into a Bill or presented for either a Committee vote or a full vote or Congress

Scam artists often latch on to something that sounds good to relieve suckers of money. For example, scam artists will often set up boiler-room phone solicitations to seek charitable donations for firemen or policemen, which the scam artists then pocket without actually giving any money to firemen or policemen. The making of charitable donations to firemen and policemen is a good thing, but the scam artists simply divert the donations to their own pockets.

The NESARA proposal is currently being used in just this sort of a scam. Some of the same people who helped keep alive the myth that Omega Trust & Trading would eventually pay out millions of dollars for every $100 sent to “trader” Clyde Hood (now convicted and serving a lengthy prison sentence), are now saying that Omega Trust & Trading and the other “original Prosperity Programs” will still pay out their millions/ billions/ trillions/ quadrillions of dollars when (not if) the “true NESARA law” is finally announced.

The scam artists pitching the NESARA scam claim that the “True NESARA Law” was already adopted by Congress in 2001, but that Congress has been keeping it a secret all this time (like anybody in Washington D.C. can really keep a secret about anything), and that soon the “True NESARA Law” will be announced. According to these scam artists, the “True NESARA Law” does the following:

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All of the “Prosperity Programs” (failed HYIP and bank debenture scams) will fund, giving zillions of dollars to those smart enough to have invested in them and believed in them even after their promoters were convicted of fraud and went to prison.
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Because the funding of the “Prosperity Programs” will swamp the Earth with wealth, nobody in any country will ever have to pay taxes again, which is nice.
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Because the banks will have more money than they will know what to do with (because of deposits from those smart enough to invest in the “Prosperity Programs”), there will be “Debt Forgiveness” of all debts, i.e., home mortgage payments, car payments, credit card payments, whatever, which is also nice.

The scam artists have set up several websites “updating” NESARA and pitching the coming debt forgiveness and new money system. These websites make some of the wildest, bizarre, and downright gut-busting statements as to why the “True NESARA Law” has not yet been announced. For instance, at http://www.2012.com.au/ NESARA_Update.html the scammers claim that on September 11, 2001,

" at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Alan Greenspan, was scheduled to announce the new Treasury Bank system, DEBT FORGIVENESS for all U.S. citizens, and abolishment of the IRS as the first part of the public announcements of NESARA.

Instead, at just before and after 9 a.m. EDT, planes attacked the World Trade Center. The attack on the WTC served to stop the announcement of NESARA because a crucial banking computer center on the first and second floors of the WTC was prevented from carrying out a computer system download to U.S. banks which was scheduled to begin at 9 A.M. EDT."

This same website similarly claims that:

“For the last month in Orange County California, citizens have been receiving letters enabling them to have ALL their credit card debts forgiven and their mortgage debt taken off their shoulders. If their mortgage was taken out before 1997, it is totally "forgiven" and the DEED to the property will be mailed out to the owner. If the mortgage was taken out during 1997 or later, the mortgage bank is required to turn it into a "self-liquidating loan" which the BANKS are required to pay off on behalf of the citizens. Some lucky people in Orange County are receiving these benefits of NESARA which EVERY citizen in the United States is SUPPOSED to have ALREADY RECEIVED!”

Hmmm. So everybody in Orange County, California (about 4 million people) had all their debts forgiven but the rest of the nation didn’t hear about it? Wow, the power of the government to suppress information cannot be underestimated! For that matter, we here at Quatloos! are all in Orange County, but our debts weren’t forgiven. Hmmm.

But if you think all of that is strange, you haven’t heard anything yet. The primary scam artist goes by the name of "Dove of Oneness" or usually just “Dove” hosts a website called “The Four Winds” at http://www.fourwinds10.com that spews a bunch of New Age hooey, such as “Lord Ari’s Galactic Tales”. Additionally, Dove has an “update line” that you can call at: (206) 781-3897 to hear the latest updates on the “True NESARA Law”. These updates, which are archived both on Dove’s website and ours (for posterity, of course) offer totally bizarre news events, such as that “100,000 Bankers who would not accept the True NESARA Law have been eliminated” and that the spaceships of the Galacticans are regularly seen visiting Washington D.C.

For those of you in law enforcement, Dove has listed her address for purposes of sending “donations” as:

Dove
3430 Pacific Ave. SE
Suite A6, Box 217
Olympia, Washington 98501

which apparently, in a course consistent with more sane scam artists, is simply a drop-box. Dove has conspired with a bunch of other scam artists/nuts

But others much less intelligent have allowed themselves to be drawn into this scam, as have some who have been mentioned as “White Knights” (whom the scammers claim are persons that protect the “True NESARA Law” and fight for it’s announcement) who probably aren’t even aware of NESARA. The nut category includes Sheldan Nidle, who gives updates from the Planetary Activation Organization, http://www.paoweb.com, and writer David Icke, http://www.davidicke.com, who claims that most important politicians and leaders are actually shape-shifting lizards from outer space, see http://www.davidicke.com/ icke/ temp/ reptconn.html.

But as amazingly stupid as all this stuff is, it is still nothing more-or-less than a scam, and one that is at times simple to discern and at other times more complex.

The easy part of the scam is little more than a common “donations” scam. Dove and several of these nuts openly solicit “donations”, ostensibly to keep their phone lines on, etc. When they need more money, they will spin a bogus tale of somebody needed medical treatment or an operation, or about somebody’s house about to foreclosed, and invite their listeners to send them money. Then, they simply pocket the cash.

The most active of these scammers is Jennifer Lee who, again for our friends in law enforcement, lists her address for purposes of sending “donations” as:

8726 South Sepulveda, Apt. B-13
Los Angeles, California, 90045

Jennifer operates her own “update line” at (310) 842-5902, and daily (and sometimes three or four times per day) generates several minutes of airhead stream-of-consciousness, usually summarizing Dove’s updates or reciting the babble of several other scam artists who have come on board. These scam artists have amusing names, such as “A and A”, the “King of Swords”, and our personal favorite, “The Nameless Ones”.

Usually, towards the end of her message, Jennifer will spin a sob story about not being able to pay the rent, or pay her phone bill, or pay her electricity bill, or whatever else comes to mind, and about once a week she asks for money to “help” somebody else out. The Galacticans must sure be cheap if they themselves can’t help ‘ol Jennifer out with the phone bill!

From this relatively simple scam comes the more complex stuff. Dove and other scam artists will from time-to-time either offer themselves or direct their listeners to their shills who continue to sell units in one or another of the “Prosperity Programs”. Believe-it-or-not, people actually send money to these idiots to buy units in programs that have proven to be totally fraudulent, and where the original promoters (such as Omega’s Clyde Hood) are serving long prison terms. Ah, the stupid and their money shall soon be parted . . .

Some of Dove’s function is just to keep the scam victims quiet and thinking that eventually they will receive their money. Before Clyde and the other Omega fraudsters were indicted, Dove was strident in remarks aimed at keeping the sheep in line for sheering. Although we’re not sure, Dove’s voice seems eerily familiar to that of “Mumbles”, who ran a scam called Destiny that was supposed to “fund” at the same time as Omega. People actually sent “Mumbles” $100 bills wrapped in aluminum, without getting receipts, and then listened to bizarre messages predicting imminent funding on a voice machine traced to Texas. Again, the stupid and their money are soon parted . . .

This scam also has, in addition to the weird New Age aspects, an extremist left-wing bent. Hardly a week goes by that Dove doesn’t call for or predict the arrest of Bush, Cheney, et al., and at times Dove’s messages have seemed to be an open invitation for some nut to take unilateral action and attempt to assassinate them so that the “Prosperity Programs” can finally fund.

More information on other these and other looney-tunes is on our Omega Chronicles page, at http://www.quatloos.com/ cm-omega/ omega-chronicals.htm

One of our Quatloos! readers recently sent an e-mail to Dove crony “Patrick Bellringer” and received the following reply:

I am a newcomer to Nesara and I am very happy to know that it may soon become a reality. However, as I have read many of the articles and thought about many aspects of the law and its implementation, I have a few questions. Perhaps you can answer some of them.



1. Since this is apparently so secret, how is it that you seems to have so much access to what is going on?

1) KOS (King of Swords) The White Knight in charge of all White Knights communicates truth to select individuals for release to the public. A few other "insiders" are doing the same.

2. If higher souls and masters, such as St. Germain and Sananda are helping run things, why push for it to perhaps be announced before things are ready?

2) Admiral Sananda, who is in charge of Earth Shan's transition, gave the order weeks ago to the White Knights to announce NESARA. Things are ready!

3. I do find it difficult to believe that so many people could keep this thing a secret. Washington is particularly not noted for keeping secrets.

3) Secrecy under threat of death. Some have broken their silence and are now deaded!

4. I am in retailing and when I look at the people I deal with every day, when I think of Nesara being passed, I see chaos and confusion. When people are told that their dollars have decreased in number( but not value), that prices are being cut and they no longer will have taxes withheld,they are going to have more to deal with than many of them are capable of handling. Add to that that the administration and congress will resign and I can see riots and paranoia being rampant.

4) When prices and salaries are reduced by the same ratio--buying power remains the same. People are not ignorant. They will be relieved to have no debt, no income tax, and no evil government. Where are you at? Things will move forward in an orderly fashion. We White Knights are not stupid!

5. Dove talks about these prosperity programs. Was one of them the Omega Trust? I came across a reference to it somewhere and there was a person named Dove apparently involved in that. Where can I find more info on these programs?

5) Why do you want to know about Omega? It is closed to new people and held confidential. You will have your opportunity to participate in a prosperity program---later.

6. I love many of the ideas that Nesara puts forth, but one of the things I keep hearing in many of the articles is When do I get MY money? It seems that many of the current have-nots want to become "haves". If this is the motivation, I predict disaster for the whole thing.

6) People are anxious to get their funds to get on with their lives and their humanitarian projects. I have waited ten years, and I am angry. Those with greed will get nothing.

7. I e-mailed one of the national radio websites about Nesara and they said they had not found any documentation that it was real. The 10 ways Dove lists to prove that Nesara is real (http://www.fourwinds10.com/ NESARA/ history/ dove101702.html) are a joke as far as I'm concerned. How many people do you know that are bank presidents or member of the German legislature?

7) If you think that Dove's list of 10 ways to prove NESARA is a joke---then I consider you to be most ignorant and quite lazy. With that attitude you deserve no part of NESARA. It is obvious that you have had no part in it, thus far.

As funny as all this is, what is even funnier is that Dove and Jennifer constantly imploring their listeners to send postcards to the U.S. Supreme Court demanding announcement of the “True NESARA Law”, and to write “NESARA Now!” when you send in your utility bills, postcards for magazine subscriptions, etc. We can only image the poor mail room clerk at Pacific Bell getting a bunch of phone bills with “NESARA Now!” written on them and wondering just what in the hell NESARA is . . .

The extreme left-wing agenda of Dove seems strangely similar to that of the "Communist Party USA" found at http://www.cpusa.org/ It will be recalled that "debt forgiveness" was a common theme of both Lenin's and Castro's communist takeovers. It certainly wouldn't surprise us if later Dove is found to be fronting for some fringe communist or socialist party.

Starfish Prime said...

Keep in mind Quatloos also bashed the DG..but I think they are right on the above information..

Starfish Prime said...

"Jennifer operates her own “update line” at (310) 842-5902"..hahahahahahahahaha ..I actually called it and found that Jennifer is going to be EVICTED!! and they want more "donations"...hahahahahahahaha that's what these little trailor trash theives deserve..haha

They'll even take Pay Pal to get NESARA "announed"..hahahaha

How do people fall for the fact that more MONEY will get these people to announce it?? hahahahahahahahahahaha... good laugh.


I'm hungry.

WillToFight said...

StarFish Prime

Slow down. Slow Down. It is very difficult to truly understand what direction you come from?

I like truth. I am not Christian, Muslem, or Jew/Hebrew. However, the argument that you might have with me, I do not believe your capable of defending, nor comprehending.

Yet, I do appreciate some of your input, you can no longer monopolize this blog.

Slow down, Slow down, you do not need to react to every post made.

We will get there my friend. Then we can debate what-ever.

WillToFight said...

StarFish

another thing. Get out of this Left/Right Liberal/Conservative rutt, your spoutting about.

It is beyond that. Those that will or try to have complete power relish on folks like you who really believe in a difference!

Starfish Prime said...

the left/right stuff is just an expression of frustration.

What argument might I not be able to defend/comprehend?

READY.

Starfish Prime said...

On 6-6-6

The Beast

will be released

Worldwide

(June 6, 2006)



The Beast is the title of a new movie
that is being boldly marketed as

"an epic story of innocence lost, faith in crisis,
and the astonishing power of the truth to survive."


The basic premise of the movie is that Jesus Christ never existed,
that His life as recorded in the Gospels is a fictional account
based on pre-existent pagan mythological themes, and that
traditional Christianity itself is the great and terrible Beast
that has deceived and oppressed humanity from its very inception.

not good.

Starfish Prime said...

Willtofight,

I am been around and around with regard to religion...I was all for it..then fell..now I'm getting myself up again. Trust me: I will always be seeking truth. I want things to add up and make sense..and you know where I settled? JESUS.

I am surprised myself. I was an atheist for awhile, until I visited the Myrtles Plantation in St Francisville, LA. I KNOW that there is life after death because I saw ghosts (multiple times) with my OWN EYES!!! I swear to you. I also had something occur that I lived through (somehow) which led me to God..but then as I got older I convinced myself that there was no PROOF..but now here I am!

Myrtles will change anyones view on life that isn't a believer in God (or Satan).

tcob247 said...

Starfish.....
Is this your blog now?

Question

Did Jesus tell you to continually call me a F***ing idiot?

Great testimony

Your witness should bring more people into the kingdom right?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Starfish Prime said...
On 6-6-6

The Beast

will be released

Worldwide

(June 6, 2006)




Swami Said:

THAT'S JUST GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's when I'm suppose to start my vacation!!!!!!!! CRAP!!!!!

~~The Swami~~~ said...

CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well let me tell you something devil........you haven't heard the last from me - no Sir. You haven't heard the last of The Swami....NO SIR!!!!!!!! (Bonk,Thump,Ker Plunk)

Starfish Prime said...

tcob , sorry for calling you a f-hole. It was not right. I will try not to call you a fuckface ANYMORE! I am ashamed I called you a fuckin idiot. Some times it seems I can put everything on hold and say that you are a fucker.. but I can do better.

SORRY.

Starfish Prime said...

Swami spouted:

"(Bonk,Thump,Ker Plunk)"

That was Starfish Prime knocking Swami over the head with a backhand, Swami's belly hitting the floor first.. ., finally the rest of him.


TKO.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Starfish Prime said...
Swami spouted:

"(Bonk,Thump,Ker Plunk)"

That was Starfish Prime knocking Swami over the head with a backhand, Swami's belly hitting the floor first.. ., finally the rest of him.





Swami Said:

(Crickets Chirping)

livinginxs said...

can we keep this about the dorean group mortgage program?

or at least mortgage programs in general - anyone hear any more on the Morrow's program or that guy named Ken?

Also anyone recieved their early bird dvd sets?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Starfish, your ability to copy and paste greatly surpasses your weak attempts at humor. Read my passage again. It was not directed towards you, but towards "YOUR" master. Let me beat you to the punch,"F*ck you Swami!"

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livinginxs said...
anyone hear any more on the Morrow's program

no but that kitchen sink they sold me has a hole in the middle of it, like something is suppose to drain out of there.....

getmeoffthisride said...

Starfish, you are an embarrassment to Christians. Quoting scripture one minute and cussing someone out the next. You have become offensive to Christians. By the way, anyone who believes Ellen White ought to try this site out, www.bible.ca. Go to Sabbath Keepers Refuted. You'll find some good readin' in there and plenty of truth.

AgentR said...

Are the Bible writers also plagiarists? Most of the new testament can be found in the old testament. Over 80% of Revelation can be found in the old testament. Can the same God inspire two people to say the same thing? If people compared your writings to the Bible, would they find you to be inspired by God?

yeahrightwhateverz said...

livinginxs said...
can we keep this about the dorean group mortgage program?

yeahrightwhateverz said:
Amen to that! Pay attention all, the questions that I pose are the real issues you should be discussing here, not your religious rhetoric - which just takes focus of the real truth.


livinginxs said...
Also anyone recieved their early bird dvd sets?

yeahrightwhateverz said: Who gives a crap about the damn DVD? Is the damn DVD gonna get the homes back or replace the homes that were lost? Hell no! The \"million dollar\" question is, did anyone receive any of the money that Kurt promised months ago and Li-Bo continually claims will be released, \"any day now?\"

Stay focused people!

Ace said...

Yo Starfish, What were you smoking the night you saw the ghosts? I want some. Ace.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Ace, Starfish gets high smelling his own farts! He told you in his username........just look...


Starfish re-arranged = His Farts

Ace said...

Swami, That was a good one!!!

Starfish Prime said...

Ladies and Gentleman,

I BEG you to go to http://triallogs.blogspot.com/ and listen to the Wednesday audio blog as Irwin Shiff got national airtime about his income tax trial and all should pray the the TRUTH come out.. that the government has unlawfully imposed an income tax ever since WW2 (the Victory Tax).

Please..the trial itself PROVES that the government is trying to hide the FACTS~!!!!!!

Please everyone...

Starfish Prime said...

I have never claimed that the way I post on here is how Christians should act. Christians should never swear. I'm not perfect. And one thing is for sure..


I AM CLOSER TO THE TRUTH THAN ANY OF YOU!!!

Becuase I use the f-word does not mean that I don't know what I'm talking about.

And if you don't think I saw ghosts.. GO TO MYRTLES YOURSELF.. I GUARANTEE you won't stay more than two nights because you will feel so freaked out!! Don't take my work for it... also take the local news's, A&E, HISTORY CHANNEL, TAPS (Ghost Hunters), etc. etc.

Fuck you!!! Keep it up swami and others and you'll see the blog ruined more than you've EVER imagined. Listen to what I say or you'll be sorry.

I've had about enough of you class.

Starfish Prime said...

Agentr thinks that Paradise Lost was inspired by God??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Alot of what she says is good reading ..BUT

I think Peter Goodgame & Michael S Heiser are almost perfect.

WAKE UP!

Realize that the DG situation is only a part of the overall picture.

Again, I swear to you all!! If you want to see a ghost-- go to Myrtles and book a room for a night (or two) and see and BELIEVE. (except for Elmer.. he can't afford it)

Starfish Prime said...

Agentr,

80% of revelation is in the Old Testament??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I do know that Jesus quoted Old Testament several times, yes.

Starfish Prime said...

Can't you guys get past the "cut-and-paste" non-sense.

I'M NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR IT!!

Fuckin READ it. MORONS..

I don't see how God can be so patient with us..

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Starfish Prime said...

Peter

Michael

getmeoffthisride said...

Livinginxs,

The new testament was quoted in the old testament because it was prophecy in the old testament. The prophecy came true in the new testament and Jesus had quoted the old testament and so did the apostles.

Good thing we have a Savior but we also need to practice self-control. The fruit of the Spirit, Starfish. If you are a believer, that is.

If a place is inhabited by demons then most likely you will see or feel ghosts and demons. Pray them out in the name of Jesus. Christians should only be filled with one Spirit! The HOLY SPIRIT!!

Tony Tuba said...

With very little wit,charm, humor, and morals, Starfish Prime has unique traits that he can bring to this blog. The list of such great attributes is as follows.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

I'm drawing a blank people.

Starfish Prime said...
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Starfish Prime said...
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Starfish Prime said...

Tucker wrote [with commentary],


With very little wit,charm, humor, and morals [towards people who are very ignorant], Starfish Prime has unique traits that he can bring to this blog. The list of such great attributes is as follows.

1. Insight
2. Perspective
3. Understanding
4. Acceptance
5. Integrity
6. Spirituality
7. Courage
8. Honesty
9. Patriotism
10. Direction
[11. Sacrifice
12. Dedication
13. Motivation
14. Exploration]


I'm drawing a blank people [speak for youself, tucker].

Starfish Prime said...

Things Starfish Prime can improve on:

1. Compassion
2. Tolerance
3. Acceptance
4. Kindness

Tends to be:

1. Arrogant
2. Taking advantage of others' weaknesses


What Starfish Prime lacks in wisdom he makes up for with common-sense.

Class, dig deeper into the issues I want to explore..you will only prove to gain from this knowledge.

Who understands Starfish Prime? Who can tell when he is serious?

Starfish Prime has the uncanny ability to reserach issues from multiple perspectives to draw conclusions correctly based on his God-given intelligence. All will come to a dead-end once in a while but then Starfish always completes and accomplishes the goal to discover and KNOW the ultimate truths.

fair enough.

tcob247 said...

you are awesome starfish

we all bow down and worship you

please cut and paste some more

we are anxious for your cut and pasting wisdom

left click
drag
right click
copy
right click
paste

gee, I wish we were as smart as you

Starfish Prime said...

Favorite new sit-com: How I Met Your Mother

Favorite Color: 1)Blue, 2)Red, Purple (just the color--deep violet, just love staring at the color for some reason..beautiful

Favorite Bands/Groups: Tool, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Petty, 311, Sublime, Pink Floyd, Rush, Alison Kraus, Talib Kweli, Common, Mos Def, Silk, R Kelly, DT Tiesto, LTJ Bukem, Twista, Elton John..many others

Favorite Shows: Seinfeld, Simpsons, King of Queens, 70s Show, Everybody Loves Raymond, Leave it to Beaver, South Park, Aqua Team Hunger Force

Favorite Comedians: Richard Pryor, Dave Chappell, Jeffrey Ross, Ali G, Ellen DeGeneres ..many others

Favorite Football Player: Barry Sanders

Favorite NFL Team: Kansas City Chiefs

Favorite Singer: Maynard James Keenan

Favorite Current Actors: Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Russel Crowe, Nicholas Cage (somehow), others

Favorite Actresses: Gwen Paltrow, Dakota Fanning, others

Best Truck: Nissan Titan

Best Lux-SUV: Lexus RX-400

Best Dog: Border Collie, Labrador Retriever

Starfish Prime said...

Tcob,

After I read certain articles I gained knowledge.. cutting and pasting is not proof of my knowledge as you seem to imply. I am giving you the info straight from the source..I don't have time to put things in my own words if the subjects are lengthy. YOU would have no clue these words were written if it weren't for me bringing it to your attention. You should be thankful. I told you not to bring up the cut and paste RHETORIC.. you are one step closer to losing this blog. How can we learn anything if we don't have a source??

Tcob I really doubt you are even 18 are you? Anyhoo you are really close to losing this blog. Really close. I am soooooooooooooo tired of hearing stupid people post here.

-Starfish Prime

Starfish Prime said...

Basically I want people to offer insight and communicate. Learn about the monetary powers, government, politics, spirituality, little known facts, someone contribute rather than rant and complain about DG. People never put answers down for posts..only questions and nothing worth any value. I at least get people's minds going.

Understand the world around you and you will be better for it. Do not draw conclusions based on sheer emotion.. back up your claims with facts and compelling evidence that we may then improve our lives and stand to gain rather than fall again and again.

Never stop questioning, never stop communicating.

tcob247 said...

skankfish

Like I said .... you are awesome

I'm 18????

Ha

At 21 that would make you my elder
LOL

I'm much older than that

You have a lot to learn

Oh I forgot, we are merely your servants

Keep on copying and pasting son
That is how someday you will find the truth

(did you ever think about calling ghostbusters?)

Who yah gonna call??

When and how will you take over this blog?
(like you havent already)

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Starfish Prime said...

Tcob, do you not believe in spirits?

Your posts are sooo weak and full of idiocy.

All you stated was that no you weren't 21, but older. That I cut and paste, and to call the ghostbusters as if my claim that the Myrtles Plantation wasn't HAUNTED!! HA

YOU have a lot to learn. Say something new for once you ignorant prick.

Starfish Prime said...

"That is how someday you will find the truth" (copying and pasting)

You think that copying and pasting will help me??? I've already read it dipshit..the posts are for those to READ. Someone wanted a copy of the complaint against Kurt..so I went and copied onto this blog..so what you would complain about that? And how do you expect to find truth?? You have to either read it or hear it somewhere .. moron.

Tcob..what do you know about what Kurt is doing and what he stands for? Do you know? What actually do you know that's worth a damn to any of us? How can YOU contribute to humanity?

I don't always cut and paste, either. Oh, let me guess you think this is cut and pasted from somewhere ..right?

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~~The Swami~~~ said...

Let's play Hangman!


J _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Let's play Hangman!


J _ _ _ _ F _ _ _ _

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Let's play Hangman!


J _ _ _ _ F _ _ _ 0

Starfish Prime said...

Swami..spell it out moron.. reveal yourself!

tcob247 said...

Starfish Prime said...
"That is how someday you will find the truth" (copying and pasting)

You think that copying and pasting will help me??? I've already read it dipshit..the posts are for those to READ. Someone wanted a copy of the complaint against Kurt..so I went and copied onto this blog..so what you would complain about that? And how do you expect to find truth?? You have to either read it or hear it somewhere .. moron.

Tcob..what do you know about what Kurt is doing and what he stands for? Do you know? What actually do you know that's worth a damn to any of us? How can YOU contribute to humanity?

I don't always cut and paste, either. Oh, let me guess you think this is cut and pasted from somewhere ..right?



I cut and pasted
Gee arent I smart
yuk yuk

Don't leave the door open on your outhouse skankman

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Let's play Hangman!


J _ _ _ _ F 4 _ 4 0

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Starfish(His farts), I called and ordered a pizza from Domino's just now. Will you be the one delivering the pizza?

roadrunner86 said...

KJ,
You keep referencing that we can get educated... However, I do not recall seeing any reference as to where we can find some of this material.

Also some of us want to know when we may expect some of our QC's back? I am not asking for my personal one, my clients are the ones asking.

I have been trying to learn how to defend our case in court, and to this point have not been successful. How can we learn the proper way to defend ourselves, if we don't know where to look?

Starfish Prime said...

Swami.. are you Farrel's friend? Do I know you?

Are you gonna "reveal" me to all???

Have I spoken to you before?

There are only a few who would know me. They don't know me.

You will NEVER know me.

JC_ _ _ F4_40.

I've gotten to you, haven't it. Who will breakdown first? You're just a few letters away punk.

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~~The Swami~~~ said...

This blog was once entertaining and helpful. You telling everyone to F off is getting old. Have some class and attempt un-insulting conversation with people. You will look back one day and say to yourself,"I was a complete idiot when I was 21". I promise you will.....WE "ALL" DO!

Starfish Prime said...

Shoot me an e-mail and we'll talk. For sure. It seems you think you're better than me. Bring it on.

tcob247 said...

shoot you an e-amil?
How?
You posted ficticious info last time
real brave

~~The Swami~~~ said...

It seems you have an insecurity problem Starfish. YOU are the one telling everyone how smart, pretty, and puntaned up you are. I don't think I'm better than anyone - that attitude always comes back to bite you! There are some extremely smart people that input into this blog. If you would stop patting yourself on the back so hard, you might learn something from these people! Instead you are driving away the people that have something to input! Please Starfish.....just chill man. God gave you two ears....not two mouths!

S illiness
W as
A lways
M y
I ntention

AgentR said...

I think Starfish Prime is Farrel LeCompte

Starfish Prime said...

I was thinking the same of Swami!! LOL

Starfish Prime said...

Ok. I want to hear from the smart people. And anything that I have put on this blog recetnly that isn't smart or incomplete/incorrect please rebut and make yourself known so that I can actually correct myself and learn.

I doubt this will happen.

Smart people: step forward.

I promise from this point on I will not bark back at people with swear words. It doesn't help ME. Come back and respond.

I cannot say the same for tcob who has not said anything worthwhile except keep cutting and pasting..blah blah..I'll try and use links.

You know what REALLY bugs me. Is what IF I actually was telling the truth about something and no one wanted to take the time to hear what I had to say??

I wish people would take the time to explore with me and not keep confined to their own assumptions.

I will always look into what people have to offer and check out.

I did look at bible.ca by the way and I found it very useful, that person or persons took a long time to build that site. thank you to whomever that was.

Swami I just am irritated at stubborn and ignorant people. I am sure not insecure (I think anyone that knew me would know that lol) too arrogant maybe. I want someone out here to tell me I'm way wrong and here's why and I'll back off of people.

I am a little overboard but that's what happens when people with imaginations communicate with text and a keyboard rather than "real" communication through sight and sound (voice inflection is also important as well). I will try to do better if others do the same. I think we can all learn some things..including the fact that Kurt's legal problems and Irwin Schiff's legal problems, and spiritual factors are all tied together and all impact our lives tremendously.

Tcob, if you want to take a trip to Myrtles with me I'd like to take a group and film it in High Definition with night vision camera's etc..and document real life experiences in a real (really) haunted house. I'm going to start planning it very soon. Most friends of mine see all the evidence I have and I actually have a hard time getting grown men to tag along for the journey back down there! I'd love to see your face when that look of horror stikes when reality sets in and you actually see and feel a non-human entity that can think and even call out your name as if they were expecting you. Feelings, Emotion, Memories, etc..are they all just the brain? Or is it something else, like your spirit?

Care to join me tcob?

tcob247 said...

I'd love to go
Name the time

newyorklife said...

I thought the same about "agentr"

son of a prophet said...

FOCL-Fell Off Chair Laughing

Watching th World Tribnals in Iraq, I couldnt help wondering if Saddams defense team includes lawyers from the DG.

It would appear that Saddam is using the same type of defense (I guess its going worldwide) as the DG.

Rather than answer quetions from the Tribunal, refuse to answer and go right to the source and question it.

Trubunal: "Saddam,how do you plead"?

Saddam: "What do you mean how do I plead'? Who are you? I dont recognize your authority! I AM the Predident of Iraq, NOT YOU!
---- YOU, how do I plead. Who the ---- are you?? This strategy just might work. Wouldnt it be soemthing if Saddam beats the case and again becomes the President of Iraq? (BTW-IF this should ever happen, this would undoubtedly qualify Mr. Saddam as the Beast of Babylon, no questoins about it, as this coincedence of happening would be in the trillions of trillions to one odds.) It would have had to have been orchestrated by the Illums.

Peace.

Elmer Fudd said...

Tucker said...
With very little wit,charm, humor, and morals, Starfish Prime has unique traits that he can bring to this blog. The list of such great attributes is as follows.

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I'm drawing a blank people.

Now that's funny thanks for the laugh..

Starfish Prime said...

Son of a prophet,

There are rumors going around DC that Cheney will soon step aside and Sec. Rice would take his place. Isn't that something (and if true would seem like it were planned).

tcob247 said...

you have the scoop on everything skankfish

You are amazing

are the ghosts calling your name?

Starfish Prime said...

Tcob, I thought we were going to try and ADD rather than subtract from this blog..and here you go making a mockery of me again!

Which do you prefer..acutally communicate and learn or just bash back and forth until the cows come home..

Let's see who will grow up first.

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