Monday, June 19, 2006

Eternal Talk

I thought I would give you some eternal perspective for those of you it applies to. It is the faith of Christ that saves not faith in Christ. This is not semantics but a clear separation of truth. Faith in Christ is generated from the man towards God. Man has no spiritual capacity to reach towards God. This is the faith of fruity, Evil ex, Tcob, neo and others. Neo of all of these might be redeemable. They ridicule because every view they have, even God, is from their own eyes. The faith of Christ is unique. Christ as a man took God at His word to the point of death. This is what Amen means. Christ chose some unto Himself before the foundations of this world to inherit His faith. It is that paradox where you are in Christ when Christ is in you. This is not a “me” generated faith and quite contrary. This faith rests upon every word of God. It debases self and exalts Christ. It makes decisions that create ridicule and shame for eternal rewards. It never grows the coward because you are always outside the jurisdiction of this world. It is the irresistible force that comforts the immovable object of evil in this world. It is why two mere men are dangerous to a fed machine. Not because of the men but because of the faith of Christ in these men standing opposed to evil. I don’t give them a fighting chance. I base this on how the faith of Christ has already conquered the evil within me. Christ is not tempted to be a thief for he knows the endless supply of God. Christ in me created Dorean and the decisions that got me here. That is why your ridicule is comical and tragic at the same time. Those who are possessed of Christ know who is and isn’t. Be found of God or be lost.

18 comments:

you will know them by their fruit said...
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you will know them by their fruit said...

Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits....

No matter how hard you try to spin your riddles, His children know His voice. You are false and Christ is not in you or Dorean.

Justice7777777 said...

freak show continues

son of a prophet said...

"Man has no spiritual capacity to reach towards God. This is the faith of fruity, Evil ex, Tcob, neo and others. Neo of all of these might be redeemable. They ridicule because every view they have, even God, is from their own eyes. The faith of Christ is unique. Christ as a man took God at His word to the point of death. This is what Amen means. Christ chose some unto Himself before the foundations of this world to inherit His faith."

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"Man has no spiritual capacity to reach towards God.

THIS IS TRUE. WHY WE CANNOT COME TO YESHUA. HE MUST COME TO US. WE HAVE FREE WILL, BUT NOT REGARDIGN SALVATION. WE WERE DECIDED TO BE SAVED BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH. "THOSE WHOM HE FOREKNEW, HE PREDESTINED..."

AS MAN 'HAS NO CAPACITY TO REACH GOD...' THIS IS WHY THE HOLY SPIRIT TRUMPS THE BIBLE.

NOTICE I SAID THE BIBLE, AND NOT THE WORD OF GOD. THE WORD OF GOD DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT SAYING THIS MAKES AN ASSUMPTION HERE; THAT THE BIBLE IS THE UNCORRUPTED WORD OF GOD. THIS IS NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE. THE ORIGIANL TEXT OF THE NT DOES NOT EXIST, SO THE HS IS THE ONLY TRUE REPRESETNTATION OF YEHSUA ON EARTH.

THE HOLY SPIRIT SAVES, NOT THE BIBLE OR THE TORAH.


"FOR THOSE WHOM HE FOREKNEW BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH, HE PREDESTINED; THOSE WHOM HE PREDESTINED, HE ALSO CALLED; THOSE WHOM HE CALLED, HE ALSO JUSTIFIED; THOSE WHOM HE JUSTIFIED, HE ALSO GLORIFIED..."

ALSO WILL YOU NOTICE IN THE VERSE..."THOSE WHOM HE PREDESTINED, HE ALSO CALLED"

MOST DO NOT KNOW THAT MOST CHRISTIANS ARE NOT YET SAVED, BUT ARE THE "ELECT"

THIS MEANS THAT THEY ARE PREDESTINED TO BE SAVED,BUT ARE NOT YET, BUT WILL BE BEFORE THEY DIE. THEY ARE NOT SAVE YET, BECAUSE YESHUA HAS NOT YET APPLIED THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THEM WHICH APPLIES TO ABOUT 99.999% OF THOSE CHRISTIANS TODAY.

IN THE APOSTLES DAY, THOSE WITH THE POWERE OF THE HS COULD DO SUPERNATURAL THINGS, AS IN 'THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW ALL BELEIVERS...THEY SHALL TAKE UP SERPENTS, AND IF THEY DRINK ANY DEADLY THING, THEY SHALL NOT BE HARMED...ETC.'

THEY COULD TOUCH AND HEAL THE SICK, ETC...

son of a prophet said...

PREDESTINED AND CALLED.

TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS REGARDING ONES SALVATION.

EACH ONE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM THE OTHER.

ELECT AND SAVED.

TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT STATES.

ONE IS IN LINE WAITING TO GET HIS TICKET; THE OTHER HAS ALREADY REC'D THE TICKET.

BUT THE ONE WAITING IN LINE IS GUARENTEED TO GET A TICKET, HE JUST HAS TO WAIT A BIT. THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT THE TICKEST WILL RUN OUT BEFORE HE GETS ONE.

son of a prophet said...

might as well come clean aobut why i have in the past been intentioanlly misspelling words....



Try to read this. I'm sure you can....very interesting.
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fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.



ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS

god said...

Fruity said...

"You are false and Christ is not in you or Dorean. "

DEAR DOPE, I HATE TO INFORM YOU OF THIS SO LATE IN THE GAME, BUT DOREAN IS NOT A PERSON SO CHRIST CAN'T BE IN DOREAN. THOUGHT YOU COULD USE THAT REVELATION.

BY THE WAY, STOP THROWING MY SCRIPTURES AROUND WHEN YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!

THAT IS ALL!!!

KYHOOYA said...

son of a prophet said...
might as well come clean aobut why i have in the past been intentioanlly misspelling words....



Try to read this. I'm sure you can....very interesting.
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fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.



ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS

tHAT"S FUNNY AS Si%# SOP. I left the last letter off that for the .. well as you said. I will admit I read it with no problem, if it's true what you said than I'll take my name off the Fall spelling bee contest for this year.

lol

L8r q8^)>~x======\/

Andrew Dice Clay said...

Justice7777777 said...
freak show continues

It certainly is a "freak show" knowing you pleasure little miss muffett during nature calling!

WHOAAAA!

you will know them by their fruit said...

Kurt confused said, "Christ chose some unto Himself before the foundations of this world to inherit His faith. It is that paradox where you are in Christ when Christ is in you."

This is lose application of a Calvanistic approach to the understanding of

Ephesians 1:11: "We have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will."

From the very beginning of time, God predestined to save humankind by sending His Son to accomplish salvation. Thus, "God would have all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth" (1 Timothy 2:4)

God has not predestined that some specific individuals will be lost and some individuals will be lost outside the teaching of his Word. Predestination is a subject that deals with the sovereignty of God over the course of human events and mankind.

His Word clearly teaches that those who obey his teachings and live faithful lives will be saved eternally and those who do not obey his teachings or who do not live faithful lives will be lost eternally. Consider these scriptures:

1 Corinthians 10:12

12 So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall! Read the first eleven verses of this chapter 10, and the whole thought is that those who were God's people perished if they did not continue to obey. Paul says that is an example for us today. We will perish too if we do not follow God.

1 Timothy 1:18-20

18 Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, 19 holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.

Hebrews 10:26-29 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

Conclusion, the very thought of predestination of certain specific individuals to be saved regardless of their lifestyles takes away the freedom of choice that we all have. Adam and Eve sinned because of choices they made. We sin because of choices we make. We can choose to obey God and we can choose to not obey God.

To remove our freedom of choice about our salvation is to violate the whole principle of why we have the Bible and its teachings.

(Just wanted to share in case someone actually interested in Christ was actually listening to Kurt/SOP/ or the others--not a likely senario. Those interested in Kurt are only "on boeard" becasue his words concerning $$$ tickle their ears.)

you will know them by their fruit said...

Colossians 3:1-10

3:1 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. 5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. 7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.

papa_dont_preach said...

YAWN, somebody please wake me when there's something relevant to the process or victory.

dgwondering said...

Papa don't hold your breath. There's enough foolishness here to keep all their egos fed for a while as long as the dimwit followers keep posting. Its cut and paste BS at its worst.

Elmer Fudd said...

papa_dont_preach said...
YAWN, somebody please wake me when there's something relevant to the process or victory.



We'll Kurt has some real time to do in the slammer there Papa, So i guess you will be sleeping for a long time.

Justice7777777 said...

papa_dont_preach said...

YAWN, somebody please wake me when there's something relevant to the process or victory.

The only process was Dorean and brokers took money = success. That was the only intended victory.

This story is not having a happy ending for anybody. Unless you have the keys to the account in Latvia.

papa_dont_preach said...

dgwondering, agreed.

Elmer/Justice7777777, I appreciate your input. At the minimum you are at least on topic.

mogel said...

Fruit said IN CONCLUSION: "the very thought of predestination of certain specific individuals to be saved regardless of their lifestyles takes away the freedom of choice that we all have."
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PREDESTINATION AND SALVATION ARE NOT SYNONAMOUS. THAT IS YOUR ASSUMPTION WHICH IS IN GROSS ERROR. SINCE YOU HAVE A FALSE ASSUMPTION, YOU COME TO A FALSE CONCLUSION. OF COURSE, FREE CHOICE IS NEVER TAKEN AWAY BY GOD & NO WHERE DOES KURT SAY THAT, YOU MASTER OF TWIST AND EMBARASSMENT.

HERE IS A WAY THAT YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PREDESTINATION AND SALVATION: "MANY ARE CALLED, BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN." GET IT YET?????

mogel said...

Fruit said: "Those interested in Kurt are only "on boeard" becasue his words concerning $$$ tickle their ears.)"
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AND WE ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE A SPELLING BEE CHAMPION AND HAVE MASTERED THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND ARE ALWAYS LOGICAL AND ACCURATE AND COME TO THIS FORUM WITH IMPECABLE CREDENTIALS.