Thursday, August 24, 2006

You can fly above the lie

I see a lot of posting about the hope of remedy in the courts. These officers of the bar are highly trained into obsolescence. There was the old folk song of John Henry who was highly trained and the best in the business with a set of tools that were being made obsolete by the invention of the steam shovel. You need to step back a little and get the focus on the big picture. The Uniform Commercial Code is the seizure weapon extraordinaire created by the bankers to enslave the world. This code is the underlying foundation to more than 150 countries. Now the best way to get the public to use the rope we created to hang themselves in to license and control their counselors. Argument is a dishonor, which is a loss. Silence is a dishonor, which is a loss. Tardiness is a dishonor, which is a loss. Performance is acceptance, which is the paramount duty of the lawyers as officers of the court. Why on earth would I find a remedy in anyway with those who are highly skilled and trained in only one point of view? That is like being overweight and going to the butcher to trim the fat. I say they are trained in obsolescence because they are only trained in the laying of traps. Imagine them digging the pits, cutting the spikes, covering it with branches and then dirt. This is great for the normal prey who are oblivious to their environment because their life is a mere regurgitation of propaganda, from media, education, and licensed experts, but one alert who knows the scope of the land can see the traps and avoid them. Even better he can teach himself to fly. What good is one trained in traps that are useless? Defense attorneys, US attorneys, judges and politicians all have the same training and mindset. Those who created the environment of puppets are on the other side of the strings and not subject to their restraints. You need to start thinking like bankers and you will always be superior to puppets. Bankers don’t need a pardon from a president. The president needs their permission to perform. Judges legislate from the bench by their decree. In fact they fly above the ground of traps. If the UCC is their weapon of choice and all the bar members are confessed ignorant by design, study the weapon not the ignorant licensed commentators. Use their tools to lay traps and fly above them. Don’t get this confused with common law remedies either. You as men cannot submit to the UCC without becoming its prey. You must have a token representative in this monopoly game we call commerce. There is nothing more silly than a man standing on a monopoly board claiming to be a car, cannon, or hat. In fact it would be evidence of retardation and a need to become a ward of the state. You would be so incompetent it would be best for you to remain silent and have a highly skilled mouthpiece to negotiate all our contract offers for you. In the end a judge will have to use his discretion to handle your affairs and make sure his opinion is consistent with public policy with a check and recheck called appeals and Certiorari. Bankers are not retards, subject to the discretion of inferiors, they can handle their affairs just fine. How about you? Some of you are still whining about a decision you made two years ago. You haven’t found a remedy or action towards one yet? Sounds like you need a lawyer, lawsuit, of judge’s decree. Don’t worry they are highly skilled at providing a remedy for you. For the rest of you study the banker, his contracts, the UCC and learn to fly. Get my DVD for starters and help each other. You do not go down by lifting a brother up. Find truth and unite around it. You will not find truth in the opinions or courtroom of judges unless you are skilled at reverse engineering a lie. Our prayers are with you and our hearts are steadfast upon the goal.

111 comments:

son of a prophet said...

with every passing day, more and more will be seeking this kind of help as the foreclosure rate has skyrocketed in recent months.

soon no one will own their house, but the banks. the goal all along.

and the banks will sell them to immigrants at a good deal less than you paid. as the banks have no money at risk, it makes no difference at what price they sell it for.

and this will continue until nothing is left because it is all part of the diabolical plan of the NWO.

if anyone cannot see this, then they are a fool.

it is called 'social engineering' but is so subtle that few if any will recognize it for what it is.

as more and more lose their homes, they will end up homeless and only be too happy to go to the compounds or concentration camps, communes or whatever one wishes to call them.

and if you think that this cant happen to YOU, wake up, you are just a little higher on the food chain with a bit more resolve (assets), but stick around and take a number, they WILL EVENTUALLY GET TO YOU.

becasue when you house value drops by 50% because no on will buy it because they can now buy a $500K house for maybe 100K, you have just joined the club.

good luck!

WAKE UP B-4 IT TOO LATE!

son of a prophet said...

jim mccanney said...



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son of a prophet said...

always thought that the bankers always supported both sides in a war.

WIN/WIN

why should mortages be any different?

complainers suck said...

Justice Dept shuts down Fannie Mae probe

WASHINGTON (AFX) - Government-sponsored mortgage lender Fannie Mae said Thursday the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, which has been investigating Fannie Mae's accounting policies and practices, is discontinuing its investigation and doesn't plan to file charges against the company.

Fannie Mae was initially notified in October 2004 of the U.S. Attorney's probe.

The company announced in May that it agreed to comprehensive settlements resolving matters with the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Fannie Mae expects to complete its ongoing restatement by the end of 2006.

"We will continue to work closely and cooperatively with our regulators as we move forward to carry out the terms of our agreements, complete our restatement and build a better company," said Daniel H. Mudd, president and CEO.

Fannie Mae shares closed Wednesday at $49.17, but rose $1.83, or 3.7 percent, to $51 in pre-market trading on the NYSE.

son of a prophet said...

no suprise there....

whyudothat said...

Pauligirl said..."Pay to the Order of" on a note is an assignment. It's allowed by the UCC code since most mortgages are sold on the secondary market. That's how banks get the money back that they lent you, so they can make other loans.


OMG!, hey pauli, you are finally catching on.
you just said it yourself, the bank sells and gets the money back they lent. lol
then please do tell, why the f** are YOU paying back the bank for the money they allegedly lent (average person pays back 2.5-3 times fraud loan amount), when the bank received the money back for it on the 2ndary market? how many times is the bank getting paid then for something they NEVER gave consideration for?

another perverted society term for stealing is called amortization, a 5% interest rate on a 100,000 loan, should never be more than $105,000 paid back, but the perversion calls it amortization and you pay back, $247,000. thats not 5% rate, that is 147%.
AND they take the house if you dont pay the fraudulent loan, selling it AGAIN for more $ from no risk of any kind to the contract.
there are so many perversions in the deal, it is a complete theft.

so your 200,000 alleged loan the bank allegedly gave you pauli, oh how nice, goes..
1. they sell your note on the market for 200,000 (at no risk to the bank of any kind, when there is no consideration for one of the partys in a contract, it is a illegal contract)

2. they collect from YOU 2.5 - 3 X 200,000 = 500K - 600K

3. 200K + 600K = thats 700,000 - 800,000 the bank steals for a alleged loan from nowhere.

oh how privileged you are to "get a loan", and in their commercials they give money to the local soccer team to look like they care for the community.
yippee, what a noble system you endorse.

AND the fractional reserve bank loans out this newly acquired credit of 600K , you paid (again of no risk to them of any kind to tha bank) to at least a 9:1 ratio. add that also to the 800K and it is over a million $ they receive from a contract of no risk of any kind to the bank.
now who wants to go open a bank and join the system and sleep good at night with no concience?

that is perpetual perversion

KYHOOYA said...

So how dose this different than what I said inregard to the paper being altered and the point I was make was not if were legal for them to do this as more so that they do it with the intent to hide it The leander dose'nt want you to see that there ALTERING IT TO IN PREP. FOR SELLING IT TO GET BACK THE MONEY THEY LOANED YOU.

The fact of that statment right there is enough for them not to want to explain there actrions to the borrower that thinks that the only source of Reimbursement for there loan is coming from them and there mortgage payment.
The true be told they no that the borrowers would have question about this and there would be the opening of the so called Pandora’s Box.

It’s not weather or not I like terms or if the banks are being legal about the agreement. My distaste is in the way they intently hide that fact from you. We may or may not agree on many thing ,but one I’m sure we can is that the banks hold the power of making laws to suit there needs and that is very evident by the past 10 yr. Or even more so since dereg. Of banking took hole as you mention the amendment of 2001.

You know it’s funny I have always have good credit and in fact carried a M/C that was limited at $60K all of witch was cash available (I have bought more than a few REOs, Fort, as alike over the yr.) I have always been treated very well and most of my dealing with regard to credit wee win’s on my side. It nut shell I was better than average with dealing and knowledge of credits witch helped. But around 1997-98 it seed that the banks took a turn and the customer service went out the window , the prove it and we might fix it along with erroneous fees came in to the picture. The fee were such a windfall for them they increased them ten fold. And this all got worst after the miliniom to where were at today. Just ask anyone if they haven’t had to deal with something alike & see how many say the same thing and how many of those gave up and paid it although it was wrong.

Rapping it up what I’m stating is that the bank be act in honor and upfront in there business deals they would not be doing it the way it’s done now and they wouldn’t be making the money they do and rightfully so.

They lie ,cheat, cover-up joint together in bands of snake that rob people with out a gun and with the support of the so called law ‘s that govern them every day and by you own statement that said the sell it to get the money back to loan again is SO INLIGHTENING AND TRUE but they don’t tell Joe and Jane cust. On the basis that it would hurt there industry and them everyone would be hurt . Isn’t that how they sell it to the law maker so they can get the laws to lean in there direction.
* C|:^)z=banker/\
L8R /
/ and the shot heard round the world . “when you have the power to create
Q8^)>/x======\/ Ready, Aim, Fire the men who made this the place to live would be at battle tomorrow if they saw what was going on around here today.


and the shot heard round the world . “when you have the power to create you care not who makes the laws.”

How else could the FED’s be made to give up the money making machine there running ?????????????????????




Pauligirl said...
KYHOOYA said...
To: Pauligirl


The note is stamped after the signing away from you or your agent. this is done so to convert it so that it can be sold and or deposited.


Paid to the order of:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

is that not considered a check for deposit by anyone in the banking arena.


L8R
2:05 PM
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"Pay to the Order of" on a note is an assignment. It's allowed by the UCC code since most mortgages are sold on the secondary market. That's how banks get the money back that they lent you, so they can make other loans. Your loan terms are not changed, therefore it is not an alteration. All it does is change who you make the payments to. While you may not like your loan being sold, you are not harmed by the action.

Former Article 9 of the Uniform Commercial Code classified a promissory note as an instrument, and the sale of an instrument was outside the scope of Article 9. In 2001, revised Article 9 ("Revised Article 9") of the UCC was enacted into law in every state. Revised Article 9 expressly includes the sale of promissory notes within its scope. See UCC sec. 9-109(a)(3). However, there are some limitations:
1. Sales of promissory notes as part of the business from which they arose;
2. Assignments of promissory notes for collection only; and
3. Assignments of promissory notes to an assignee in satisfaction of indebtedness
These exclusions typically do not effect securitization transactions.
Here's the rest of the article that explains it quite well.
http://www.firstam.com/faf/html/
cust/jm-sales.html

9:05 PM

wantobefree said...

BULLSHIT I CANT BELIEVE THIS BLOG IS STILL GOING I GUESS ITS LIKE ME GETTING ON HERE STILL THE HOPE OF GETTING SOME OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY BACK ROOT OF ALL EVIL ASK THE DOREAN GROUP ABOUT THIER ROOTS.

wantobefree said...

BULLSHIT I CANT BELIEVE THIS BLOG IS STILL GOING I GUESS ITS LIKE ME GETTING ON HERE STILL THE HOPE OF GETTING SOME OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY BACK ROOT OF ALL EVIL ASK THE DOREAN GROUP ABOUT THIER ROOTS.

Yetter said...

wanttobefree.....
You are here for the wrong reason,LOVE of money is the root of all evil. I know the hearts of our trustee's and I have no question with thier purpose.The problem with this blog is bogged down with ideas and theory's instead of EXECUTION,is what the focus should be. You bought a CHEAP ticket to ride.Without self belief nothing can be accomplished. Winston Churhill wrote "If your going through hell,keep going".

neodemes said...

Parakeets can fly, but, they usually sit behind bars, too.

:-)

KYHOOYA said...

Hey Neoflight

Why don't you take a shot at answering the question that was put up about the ateration of the note and closing docs after you sign them. It seems that Pauligirl is a little lost for words or she is looking through lot's of case law to find something to support her side of thing's.

So what about it Mr. Realastate you up to the task or just hot air?

I'll put my money on the Balloon filler being the correct answer.

By answer that dose'nt mean your regular two step & side shuffle dance number that answers nothing but you love to do for the appause like if someone on your site that might have a different thought or something, I know how you live for that hole knight on a horse i'm right your wrong no matter how much the facts say you are.

I just thought I would ask seeing how I know Pauligirl lives for a ride on your coat tails, or at least thats what it look's like when you read the stuff on your site she writes.

So step up dude! give us your spin on REI you must know.

By the way you had bosted a whaile back about how you were the one that had said that you file Bk in respounce to one of my question and that you bought a house with no conv. lending hey thats great for you but the last part about the invite to your site to learn how, well you go on and keep the learn tools for your self.

I've been at this for a long time and boght many home 's in all forms of tender. I think you seem to liken yourself to much the sames as your picture you use for your site I.D but I also think this. That anyone that is so closed minded as to not be open to learn something new is nothing more than a good example of how this counrty and the parents have'nt spent the time to teach there kid's what is the truth and what is fiction about alot of things it's sad to think that when A. Lincon was a child that he had min. schooling = to 6th grade today & that someone can go throught all 12 yr's and some 4 more of higher ED and still be so dumb up that they don't know half of what A. Lincon did about the subjects sad sad sad.

I think SOP said it just above we all better wake up it my not be true about everything that is yelled out to do with the goverment and the banking and the rest but you have to say one thing there is to much that's not adding up to anything good and someones going to benifit from it. Let history and the minds that were from the people that had the knowlage to see that they needed something different and the US was born but how would they see what is taking place now would they think it all good or would they grab a pitch fork and start asking some ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? to our Rep's up there in Washington DC.

You have said it here before that you think not so highly of the banking and you no fan of goverment along with other's so why fight against some who are taking a chance and trying to change it sure some people got there hopes up to much and lost what they were trying to save in the first place when they got involved with it but come on let's all be real here can you sit there and honestly say tath anyone who gave up the some of money and control over there estate was'nt doing so with the insite that they were taking a rike and that this was not something that took place every day no matter what anyone told them you would have to be mentlely retarded to not have known the risk and if you got into it and there was a problem and you had the mony to start with to pay your mortgage than you would have had it when the shit hit the fan so you could pay the bank and make it all min. loss but that was'nt the case was it The fact is that no one has said anything here that said they wer'nt in trouble or ew what was the risk.

I don't blame anyone for being upset about the way things went but hey better to put some effort into the fact that the judges are doing what they want and without regard to fare play. As I said before you can't write the rule's and then expect that everyone but you have to follow them when it's time tthat siomeone comes up with a loop hole in one and put it to use that B.S. and everyone should be seeing that is what taking place here. How is it the the right to a speedy trail is be extended for one thing or another why iis it that you have judges that tell defendants that they have to put into writing what they what to say in front of the jury that is there right to present there case and get a peer group of 12 to make a choose on what is right and wrong not hear what the judge want to feed them and the be told how to verdict. that is so blantant and so much the bullshit but there are major player out there in this and people have died for this industry that wants to carry a face of happy helpfull freindly people out for your brst interest there is alot of money at stake here ... Let me say that again there is a LOT OF MONEY AT STAKE HERE AND EVEN IF THE DOREAN GROUP MAKE'S A WAVE IN THIS THEY HAVE TO TRY AND STOP IT SO IT WON'T JUGGERNOTT ON THEM.

Is it not funny to anyone that only the people in history that have been in the power to do real damage are the ones that have KILLED or at some point there has been that chance of happening? it's all to much the strange cowink a dink when you look at it. and with that as always I have stared out to say one thing and gone off on a tangent about the rest but allin alll fokes you need to put your efforts into something that is going to make a difference and lets face the facts here the truth is that Kurt & Scott are in it and there is nothing that is going to make or brake the out come that isn't left on there best effort if anyone here think that they are doing anything in the regard of changing that or the like there about as looney as a toon again if you want me to beleive that anyone that got in to this was'nt fully aware of the risk and did so owiththat in mind and to some that ment they were in bad shap to start with so there loss is no more the Dorean groups falt then that witch was the drive force that put them looking the the net for mortgage Elim in the first placve or where ever they found there way here. or yhere are people so supid out there that they sould not be left to there own choses as they don't have the needed brain power to do so without loosing everytrhing they have by bad choses last percent has to be greed and we all know where that get's you yep thats right


To be a banker

I look for those answers there Neo and for the rest of you I would offer this: That you sould spend the time spent here to some how teach yours around you the nature of the power's and there business so that they just might be the ones to make that leap of a step to get thios country back so you can work and have something to shopw for it when it ciomes time to not .

if icost you three times what you pay for it the EQ you will build along with the rise in prices of good's will leave you with neg. $$$$ to show on your acct. that the facts and the paper will add up to that every time you do the numbers and then tell me how the banks don't no this and ar'nt screwing you right out of every penny you work for and them some.

Great to work for 40 yr 's and have a neg. -$$ on the books. for it isn't it

Good luck to all and I only wish everyone the hope of good fortune.

When you can see the dfference between the thing in life that you have the power to change or not then you can claim wisdom, for you are wise indeed for knowing and have the peace around you to show for it.

GR82BMOI said...

Whyudothat: Normally, I read the idiotic comments posted on this blog and simply snicker to myself at the utter absurdity. It’s quite amusing, usually. This one, however, is so over the top with outlandish misinformation, I cannot, as much as I would like to, let it go. Besides, it’s a little slow at work today…

“then please do tell, why the f** are YOU paying back the bank for the money they allegedly lent (average person pays back 2.5-3 times fraud loan amount), when the bank received the money back for it on the 2ndary market? how many times is the bank getting paid then for something they NEVER gave consideration for?”

This topic has been pounded to death over and over and over and you people still can’t get it. Since you’re obviously a slow learner, I’ll go over it one more time. The bank sells the loan and gets the principal amount of it back so they can lend it again to someone else. You don’t have to pay back the 1st bank anymore, you have to pay back whomever they sold it to. It just doesn’t get any simpler than that.

“another perverted society term for stealing is called amortization…”

That’s not the definition of amortization: Amortization is “the paying off of debt in regular installments over a period of time.”

“…a 5% interest rate on a 100,000 loan, should never be more than $105,000 paid back, but the perversion calls it amortization and you pay back, $247,000. thats not 5% rate, that is 147%.”

No, it’s 5%. Interest is expressed in annual terms and here’s the standard 360-day-year mortgage calculation if you’re smart enough to use a calculator: Principal x Rate/360 x 30 or in your example: 100,000 x 5% (=5,000)/360 (=13.88) x 30 (416.66). $416.66 is the amount of interest you will pay the first month. Then, the whole calculation is applied again the next month and (I bet you can see where I’m going here) since the principal is less the second month than it was first month, the interest the second month is less than it was in the first month! Magic isn’t it? Even more magical is what happens if you deposit money at the bank. When those nasty banks pay interest on deposits, they ADD the interest to the principal and every time they do, you earn interest on top of interest! It’s a cool little phenomenon called compounding!

“AND they take the house if you dont pay…”

Makes sense.

“…selling it AGAIN for more $ from no risk of any kind to the contract.
there are so many perversions in the deal, it is a complete theft.”

Fact is, lenders generally lose money on foreclosures. Think about it. If the property was worth more than what you owe on it, why wouldn’t you just sell it yourself and pocket the difference? Oh wait, I forgot – you deeded it to some slick ex-con you found on the internet and technically don’t have the right to sell it anymore. Oops.

“…they sell your note on the market for 200,000 (at no risk to the bank of any kind, when there is no consideration for one of the partys in a contract, it is a illegal contract)”

$200,000? Where (specifically please), is the bank going to find somebody to pay them $200,000 for something worth only $100,000? I need an answer to this question ASAP, please. I’ve got quite a few things I’m willing to sell if there is some moron out there paying double the value.

“they collect from YOU 2.5 - 3 X 200,000 = 500K - 600K..they collect from YOU 2.5 - 3 X 200,000 = 500K - 600K…200K + 600K = thats 700,000 - 800,000 the bank steals for a alleged loan from nowhere.”

Huh? All those numbers make no sense whatsoever. You might want to try the interest calculation detailed above. The smaller the principal the smaller the interest and the smaller the total repayment. That’s why extra principal payments always make a huge difference.

“oh how privileged you are to "get a loan", and in their commercials they give money to the local soccer team to look like they care for the community.
yippee, what a noble system you endorse.”

Yup, that’s true. In fact, most of the banks in my community provide significant support to all sorts of worthy causes and I’m thankful they do.

“AND the fractional reserve bank loans out this newly acquired credit of 600K , you paid (again of no risk to them of any kind to tha bank) to at least a 9:1 ratio. add that also to the 800K and it is over a million $ they receive from a contract of no risk of any kind to the bank.”

I’m not certain what you’re babbling about here, but I suspect you are attempting to appear authoritative concerning a complicated economic concept of which you obviously know bupkiss. Got news for ya: that money doesn’t go to “the bank”, it goes into the economy and millions of individuals and businesses (yes, including YOU and the banks) benefit from it.

“now who wants to go open a bank and join the system and sleep good at night with no concience?”

Opening a bank might be a tad unrealistic for most folks, but you can still own part of one. In fact, had you purchased…say…Bank of America stock two years ago with your $3,000 “mortgage elimination” fee, you would now have stock worth $3,850 PLUS $248 you would have received in dividends. That amounts to an average 18.2% annual return on investment. Not bad.

mogel said...

You know it's funny how the banks are protected by the courts.

Here is an example to show this. If you have a home that you rented out & it burned down due to the renters leaving the stove on leaving papers near the stove to ignite the house to burn down, you file an insurance claim as the landlord. The insurance claim pays the owner of the home for the damages to the home.

But the landlord isn't quite satisfied with that because he sees an opportunity. The landlord sues the tenant for negligence and wants the tenant to pay the landlord too, so the landlord can be enriched again TWICE.

The court finds out that the landlord was ALREADY PAID & MADE WHOLE for his damages through the insurance company and throws out the claim of the landlord against the tenant. Makes sense since this is unjust enrichment TO BE PAID AGAIN. The landlord shouldn't benefit twice.

So why do the banks get away with getting paid twice plus interest and the courts sanction this, when in the insurance example, the court would never sanction this? There exists a double standard.

KYHOOYA said...

hey tell me this what is the point for the bank not to tell you about the way the deal goes down? Why not let the borrower no right from the start how they sell the note and such why keep so quite about it. and the fact that there showing you the rate sheet is a joke also thats not the real rate sheet . and if there was nothing that anyone learnd about that they do they would keep it alll to them selfs and rape you of every dime they could except that what you need to keep making money rto get by and feed them the'll keep you just on the hook, real you in from time to time just to show you who's boss and then cast you back out to make then more money.

You it'ds not a hard job to feed of man's greed it is oh SOOO EZ.

come on you bank supporter I'm up for a little show and tell all but bring you box of tissuse because all the crap that your handing out now is about to be trown out an a hole new fact based structure is goingto replace it for you that is if your not the bankers who want to see nothing and lie your way through the facts showing different. but that might be hard for you to do when I get done. the truth is the truth and a lie will always crumble with time to brake it down I have'nt meet one llier that I have'nt been able to brak it down on yet.


L8R

so bring the fact and let's get this thing started.
and put and end to it!


q8^}>x===== \/

in a suit even the baddest crook looks like he's got something going on that you might want.

tcob247 said...

Kurt said.........

"There is nothing more silly than a man standing on a monopoly board claiming to be a car, cannon, or hat. In fact it would be evidence of retardation and a need to become a ward of the state."
....................................
Kinda like printing $72 Million checks on the jails printer huh?


By the way....
good post GR82BMOI
Kahooya didnt really know what to say did he.
Don't respond to me kagaya
Remember...you're not gonna talk to me anymore


How's the grill comin IMBIGO?

whyudothat said...

gr82bmoi, or should i say gr82bfoolish,

lets see, my neighbor wants to borrow $5,000 from me to repair his roof, I sell his promissory note on the 2ndary market for $5,000 at NO RISK TO ME and NO CONSIDERATRION WHATSOEVER, write him a check for $5,000 from the sale, then by the time my neighbor is done paying me back with armoritized interest he has paid me back $15,000, and gr82bmoi thinks this is OK and smart, and part of the community.

my 9 year old niece has more intelligence than you, you make foolish ppl look wise with your mentality.

keep paying your mortgage, that is where you belong in your existence.

GR82BMOI said...

Why...

Why is your neighbor still paying you if you sold his promissory note on the secondary market? Is he paying the secondary market lender too? If he is, he's really getting screwed. If he ends up paying back $15,000, how long did he finance that roof, anyway? At what rate? When I calculate it, he would have to finance the $5,000 for 30 years at 10% interest. Anybody can do better than 10% interest these days. Why is he paying your usury rates? And what kind of idiot would finance a new roof for 30 years in the first place? Doesn’t sound like he’s a very good credit risk either, have you thought about that? Most people anticipate routine home maintenance and save the money before they perform the repairs. Maybe he shouldn’t be a homeowner in the first place. Your neighbor sure doesn’t seem very smart and, frankly, neither do you.

mogel said...

"Why is your neighbor still paying you if you sold his promissory note on the secondary market?"
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BINGO Mr. idiot!!! It's great not to be you. Why are we still paying the banks?

GR82BMOI said...

Kafoolya:

You talkin' to me? I haven't got a clue what you're trying to say. Is there a Cretinese translator in the house?

mogel said...

Great to Be Moi:

Don't feel alienated OR ALL ALONE. I can't understand what you say EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

GR82BMOI said...

Mogel said...I can't understand what you say EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sadly, that doesn't surprise me.

neodemes said...

gr8

Good post, but they don't want to be enlightened with truth that makes sense.

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
GR82BMOI said "Why is your neighbor still paying you if you sold his promissory note on the secondary market?"
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BINGO Mr. idiot!!! It's great not to be you. Why are we still paying the banks?
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You make the payment to whoever bought the loan. Not the original lender AND the new holder. Do you think you are not supposed to make payments at all? Who are you to get a house for free?

Thanks, GR82BMOI..good explaination.

KYHOOYA said...
So how dose this different than what I said inregard to the paper being altered and the point I was make was not if were legal for them to do this as more so that they do it with the intent to hide it The leander dose'nt want you to see that there ALTERING IT TO IN PREP. FOR SELLING IT TO GET BACK THE MONEY THEY LOANED YOU.
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If it's a standard loan, the information is in there that the loan will be sold.
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son of a prophet said...

"You make the payment to whoever bought the loan. Not the original lender AND the new holder"


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here is the flaw in this argument.

if the orig lender collects immediately on the loan in full and the new lender buys the loan; how much did the new lender put up to buy the loan? 10 cents or so on the dollar?

so it still comes down to the same thing?

buying a 200K loan for 20K?

a good deal if you can get it.

where can i get a deal like this?


not only that, but where did the orginal lender get the money to lend form?

from depositors assets? ie., svivngs and checking accts?

NO! as banks are prohibibted from lending depositrors assets.

so, where did the money come form?

the fed. but if its from the fed, then its your moeny to begin with as the country is technically in bankruptcy. no debt can be paid, only interest on the debt.

GR82BMOI said...

mogel said...
"Why is your neighbor still paying you if you sold his promissory note on the secondary market?"
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BINGO Mr. idiot!!! It's great not to be you. Why are we still paying the banks?

In the mortgage industry, banks amount to little more than front line paper pushers for which they get paid a fee. The banks don’t decide what rate you’ll pay - the market does. All those papers you sign - the bank doesn’t create them - they are dictated by industry standards. Most mortgage loan funding comes ultimately from investors, not from deposits, which fund most other types of loans. Losses resulting from defaults are borne by the investors, not by the banks. Don’t get me wrong: mortgage origination is big, big business for banks, but the bottom line is, as soon as the ink is dry on that stack of paper, the banks book their fee and wash their hands of the whole deal. That you, Mogel, don’t have the basic intellect to comprehend these simple truths speaks volumes for your credibility.

The irony of it all is that if your employer (assuming someone would actually employ you) has a pension plan, or if you participate in a 401(k) retirement plan, or if you invest in mutual funds or the bond market YOU likely have more of a vested interest in mortgage loans than “the bank” does.

GR82BMOI said...

SOP said...

"if the orig lender collects immediately on the loan in full and the new lender buys the loan; how much did the new lender put up to buy the loan? 10 cents or so on the dollar?"

If you know of a bank selling loans for 10 cents on the dollar, I definately want some of that action. Get back to me, okay?

GR82BMOI said...

One more thing - if you people want to keep running your scam, you might at least want to get your story straight. How much does the bank get when they sell a loan? SOP thinks it’s 10 cents on the dollar. Kafoolya says they only get the money back. And best of all, Wyudothat claims it’s over a million for a $200,000 loan:

SOP says...”buying a 200K loan for 20K”

Kafoolya says...”FOR SELLING IT TO GET BACK THE MONEY THEY LOANED YOU.”

Whyudothat says...”add that also to the 800K and it is over a million $ they receive from a contract”

mogel said...

Great to Be Me said: "Most mortgage loan funding comes ultimately from investors, not from deposits, which fund most other types of loans."
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NO loans originate from bank's own deposits!

What are you talking about?

Shows your intellect.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Thursday I went and ate Chinese food. At the end of the meal as usual we were given fortune cookies. I opened my cookie and read the insert,"Fur Pie Doesn't Sell." I might have to put that on a bumper sticker!!!!!!!!!!

GR82BMOI said...

Mogel said...NO loans originate from bank's own deposits!

What are you talking about?

You're going to have to clarify that statement. I can't tell if you're attempting to "cleverly" twist words, or if you're just plain stupid. Which is it?

neodemes said...

August is almost over.

It will all be settled soon.

It is written.

LOL

KYHOOYA said...

GR82BMOI said...
Kafoolya:

You talkin' to me? I haven't got a clue what you're trying to say. Is there a Cretinese translator in the house?

4:37 PM

Boy did that hurts, Oh please stop. I can't take it!

What a Dick!

Way to side step, are you a dancer?
Oh never mind I for got your part of the banking problem ie: Broker, Title agent and such. Mt guess is that your "Utah". Seen it! don't need to see you again.

The Question is WHY IS THE BANK HIDDING SO MUCH SURROUNDING THE TRANSACTION. WHY IS THE BOY'S CLUB SO MUCH ON THE Q.T. if it's not fucking you.

Pauligirl I know that the sale is disclosed but that dos'nt disclose the full transaction as we both know and they don't because?

I wouldd like someone here to give a good excuse for the hiding and non dicloser of the fact to the transaction . The fact that they don't has more to do with the scam than most are aware of including Title, Brokers, and so on go the list you sit there like you have a grand insght to a industry that i clouded in miss direction so how is it that you think you know it all?

Again my question for anyone that want's to answer it without the Bull shit distractions like that of GR8to a dick who can't just answer the question he has to instead try and put people down to win his fight.

How expected and oh so old that is, why not just answer with something that explains it for all of us that are to stuiped as you said to understand it.
If it's that easy than I'am all hear but don't over look the smallest of facts because I might not understand it if you do and if I have a question , would you please explain it so that it's not just a one way answer that has no real fact behind it just hearsay or how it is told to be not how the paper trail shows.

The fact as I see them are that the bank is hidding thing to kep the public in large at some distance from the real working so that them may gain from it as in your own words Gr8tbe "the org. fees are big for the bank" why are the brokers hiding the true cost and rate sheet but showing and telling you there on your side.

why is it that the lender and broker work in a way that is now called "Preditoy" if this is such a up front transaction.

The question I'm asking are easy and straight forword and all I seem to get back is Bull shit I must think that this id do to the fact that you don'yt have a good answer and you are only spilling crap to convert some to protect your industry or they have got you so twisted you can't see the fact that it's the big scam not anyone trying to expose it.

So please inlighten me I'm all ears

Pauligirl I must say can at least state her opinion without have to sidestep when explaining this as she see it.

Why is it that the people through out our history that or somewhat noted for there stataus have stated that ther is no good that come's from the banking the way it is and it need to go? lease tell me that and I'm talking about (A.lincon, Jackson, J, kennnedy ) and the list go's on why would these people be killed when they were going to close down the bank's well people like little jr. sit up the just doing what ever the fuck he want's and nothing happens to him (jr being Goerge Bush jr.) that is for you there Gr8tobe so you could understand what I was talking about and who. dip shit why don't you answer these simple ??????????

or is it that you have no good answer

mogel said...

Pauligirl said: "If it's a standard loan, the information is in there that the loan will be sold."
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There's no such thing as a "standard loan". There never was a loan. An exchange took place, but the so called borrower is expected to PAY AGAIN PLUS INTEREST. The so called lender created the value for the loan from the promissory note through misrepresentation and deception, nondisclosure, and forgery which created unjust enrichment to the so called lender. That's the original source of the money.

Do I think that I should get something for free? Why not, the lenders do each time they give a so called loan !!! It's my turn to get something for free. I'd like to know what it feels like. Lenders have a license to steal and a license to cause inflation which steals from everyone else.

You aren't suppose to legally sell something you don't have entitlement right to either.

Great to Be Moi: And I know loans are sold in the secondary, and I know they are sold for 99-100% of their value almost always if the original lender doesn't keep their own portfolio, so you statement about demand or "market conditions" is nonsense. You made assumptions about what I know that isn't applicable, so you are the stupid one.

Proponents of the lending system just the way it is, like you, want to talk about everything else except the fraud of the lenders and their nondisclosure and you are quick to praise the system. I suppose you would justify selling a car knowing that the engine was ready to go out very soon, much like a currency can lose it's value almost overnight like what happened in Germany's history where thousands of dollars wouldn't even buy a loaf of bread.

Course you wouldn't disclose that, but you would sell the car anyway. You would probably say, "well you got a running car didn't you"? Never mind, that which was disclosed--- isn't what was believed or represented.

"Well, you got the loan didn't you"? How many times have we heard that rhetoric, hence you must pay it back, LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY LEGAL ISSUE. Give me a break!!!!

KYHOOYA said...

wantobefree said...
BULLSHIT I CANT BELIEVE THIS BLOG IS STILL GOING I GUESS ITS LIKE ME GETTING ON HERE STILL THE HOPE OF GETTING SOME OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY BACK ROOT OF ALL EVIL ASK THE DOREAN GROUP ABOUT THIER ROOTS.

3:43 PM

KNOW ONE SAID YOU HAVE TO COME HERE, NOW DID THEY

THE PAST OR ROOTS THAT YOU ARE SPEEKING OF IS THAT TO MEAN THE JAILING OF THE KURT FOR SEC.FRAUD? IF SO ISN'T IT THAT YOU HAVE PAID FOR YOUR SO CALLED CRIME AFTER YOU DO THE TIME OR DID i MISS SOMETHING THERE TOO.

yOU KNOW LIKE EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT I MISS ABOUT THE FACT OF THAT SURROUND THE LEANDING BUSINESS?

IT'S NICE WHEN YOU CAN CHANGE THING TO SUIT YOUR NEED AT A DROP OF A HAT OR THE FIRST SIGN THAT SOMEONE IS CATCHING ON TO YOUR CHEATING THE AS IN THE BANK'S AND ALL THAT KEEP THE LIE ALIVE!

L8R

GR82BMOI said...

KYHOOYA - I'm not trying to dodge your questions, but I gotta tell ya, I'm having a really hard time understanding what your questions are. Let's try this: you ask one question at a time, and will make an attempt to answer it. Okay?

KYHOOYA said...

THERE IS NOTHING IN MY LIFE THAT I HAVE COME ACROSS ACT'S IN THE WAY THAT THE HOLE GROUP DOSE WHEN IT COMES TO LEANDING , THAT IS NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ME.

IF ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE CAUSES TO HAPPEN IS THE DIRECTLY RESULTS IN THE HARM OF OR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE HIDING PARTS OF A BUSINESS DEAL TO GAIN FROM IT CAN ONLY BE LOOKED AT AS A FORM OF STEELING AND IN ANY OTHER AREA IT WOULD.

THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO DO THIS MORTGAGE BUSINESS WITHOUT ALL THE BACKROOM BULLSHIT. THEY WON'T LET THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD MAKE LOT'S LESS $$$$$ NOW WOULD'NT IT?

WHY ALL THE SECRECT BULLSHIT IN THIS INDUSTRY?

IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION WHY WON'T YOU GIVE A GOOD ANSWER TO THIS ??????? AND EXPLAIN IT GR8,NEO,AND THE REST OF YOU PUDD FUCKER.MY GUESS IS THAT THERE IS NO GOOD ANSWER FOR IT AND TO DO SO WOULD MEAN YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE INDUSTRY THAT FEED YOU, AND YOU DON'T WANT TOO SEE IT FRO WHAT IT IS


THE BIG SCAM AND THAT WHY PEOPLE THROUGH HISTORY OF POWER HAVE SAID THIS TO BE THE CASE

BUT AGAIN i'M ALL EARS. TEACH MEE I WANT TO NO HOW IT IS FOR REAL THE BOTTOM LINE THE NO EXCUSES FACTS THE END OF THE STORY

TEACH ME I NEVER TURN DOWN THE CHANCE TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW SO HERE YOUR CHANCE AGAIN TEACH ME I WIL WAIT.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "August is almost over.

It will all be settled soon.

It is written.

LOL"
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It's to the court & prosecutions best interest to settle SOONER than later. I don't really care if all things AREN'T settled by the end of August because I don't believe they will be. I don't think the end of August was a prophesy either or a sure thing like you insinuate. It was a BELIEF that could happen or materialize based upon the weak case of the prosecution and other factors. The prosecution's case isn't going to get any better as time goes on either. It will surely ONLY get weaker as time goes on because the many defenses are adding up quickly.

It was also believed that the guilty verdicts would cause 30 years to life. That didn't happen either and sentencing didn't happen either, because the courts rejected the pleas 5 different times now, and motions in the court to be considered-- STILL CONTINUES. The Judge didn't like the condition of HONESTY that was imposed upon them and the banks that supposedly were injured by the Dorean process. Without complete honesty, then of course the ORIGINAL guilty pleas are meaningless anyway and couldn't be enforced. So it's no wonder they were rejected by the Court.

So Nemo, let's save you the few days of waiting time RIGHT NOW, and the gloating that you would surely do, and say that this latest hopeful prediction that COULD happen, isn't going to happen either anymore than Judge Alsup is going to be recused.

I don't care how many minor battles are lost in the long struggle and battle; the war will prevail in Dorean's favor in the end. That's all I need to know.

I don't even need Kurt's special spiritual witness that he will prevail that was revealed to him in the very beginning, although I never get tired of hearing that from him and having that reinforced and mentioned with repetition. His witness does in fact create hope and more faith.

mogel said...

Great to Be Moi said: "You're going to have to clarify that statement. I can't tell if you're attempting to "cleverly" twist words, or if you're just plain stupid. Which is it?"
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Read the Federal Reserve publications that indicate how so called loans are created. I'm not twisting anything. Obviously, you haven't read them, so maybe you are the stupid and uninformed one?

When you can undertand this statement, "when a loan is given, the money supply increases", then maybe grasshopper you won't be so brainwashed and confused.
Until then, it's a waste of time reasoning with you.

KYHOOYA said...

Has anyone ever woundered why it is that when we when to war with england over our emam. freedom that all thought bloody it was to easy and strang that england gave in so quick?

I mean here is a chance to expand ther land holdings by a huge amount and they paid for the trip in the first place so you would think that they would of put up more of a fight.

The bank's were paying for there fight with france and the rest of them so why not just mount another looad of ship with more men and bigger cannons and send them on there way and take over?> They must have the for sight of another way to go about getting control without all that blood share


Or maybe the case was ,is that the bankers had a better idea for getting all the land and more from here and that was why the short lived war.
what your take , I think there something to that or is history so differanet now as it happens then the way it has for ever?
Are we so different from everyone and past?

We sit here thinking all the time that we are the power to be and that nothing can touch us. How is it that such a young country gain so much in such a short time and that the power that were in place at the time would sit back and let this take place without a word?

the ww1 ww2 and the rest as it shows were not that of a country wanting to invade us so as it was us going to help protect the freedom or whatever the case may have beed is not the point so much as why the fact that everyone just sat back and let us become the largest power in the world with out doing anything

You would think at the very least they would have modleed them selfs against us to gain if what we were doing was so good and made so much $$$$$ but by and by if we look not that many thought to change there system and the way things were going .

I mean why not start a system of banking and the like just like our all over the world so that everyone was doing as well that is if we were doing that well


we don't see it but the poeple of other countries do that we are young and full of our self and we are going to fall if there are not some changes soon Young Young youNG .... we sould not be so complacent as we have become

Thing's just don't add up but I'm open to be inlightend by anything so if you got something about this so post it and let see it

KYHOOYA said...

Gr82 O.K. I should refresh my page more offen.

If you are for real in your post about answering the questions I have then here go's one at a time.

Why is the industry of leanding so clouded with evryone hiding the way thing take place in a loan?

It's not that complecated so why do they make it so if not for the fact that they are trying to cover up the theft of it?

O.K. that was two questions but there both the samething as it go's it's hard for me to beleive that all the people of history that were in power that have ststed that the bankingsystem is no good are wrong I just don't see people that even have the chance of loss from doing this would do so if ther was not thing wrong and underhanded do you? without all the nit picking little thing that side track from the main core of this topic as we all know it is easy for thing to be twisted into way that make someone see what someone want's them to by doing just that twisting and sidetracing the main issue to again hide the truth of the story.

GR82BMOI said...

Mogel said...”When you can undertand this statement, "when a loan is given, the money supply increases", then maybe grasshopper you won't be so brainwashed and confused.
Until then, it's a waste of time reasoning with you.”

Finally! We’re getting somewhere. So...tell me Mogel...who decides when to expand or contract the money supply? What methods are used to accomplish an expansion in the money supply? When the money supply expands, what happens to all that newly created money?

KYHOOYA said...

Why is it when only 30% of the country is saying that they think your doing a good job as the Pres. and that he is breking laws and acting as if he was king instead of in power for the people by the people that no one has taken a shoot at this guy? I ask because if we look back at the men that held the that office that were at a 90% poll rating on people thinking they were doing a good job and no crooked dealings being said to take place but it' sthis pres. that someone shoots and kills why is that ?

It can only lead one to beleive that these men were in the process of going after big change in the banking and the FED board of Gov's and thats why the killing or there by the atempt at doing so. it's very clear to see that banking is a power that will not go easy without a fight and they have the power as we see everyday more and more.

my question here is:
What do you think abouit whgat I just said and what do you think it would take to hget the FED's res bank to give up it's power (Imean as it was set up it should be only our congress saying so i know that much ) but what will it take to remove them and get congress to do so? my bet is GOOD LUCK trying, maybe a revelotion perhapes?



one more thing to add to this is that the state of Nevada took the stand in 2003 and recinded there given right for congress to be the only one to coin money and did so on the grounds that congress had nno roight to deligate that right to the "Federal Reserve bank of Goveners" in accordence with the The Constitution of the "United States of America" and that such ammedment was to be if place intill witch time that Concress took back there right and abolished the FED. why do you think a state would go throughtthe trouble of the with the intention to coin there own money it till that happens if there was not a big proble with the FEd's bank and our country. (just a foot note it was Nevada being one of the last states to join the rest when they gave there rights to congress about this because they saw a problem)


I would ask you this to : Don't you see that there is a big problem with the way things are going and that the FEd is a bad thing and that they are and were put into place out of and very neatly done scam of Manipulation by such banking powers to gain control of the Money in this country ? This being the case you have to ask your self why would a group of people that were very wealthy spend so much to get it to place a group that was for all intent and purpose to be controlled by the Government (or that’s how is was setup to be) what was in it for them??

We all are grown ups for the most part and should no how thing in the world work and the fact being simple not what we might want it to be but never the less it is what it is. That being that people lust for power and will do what ever it take to get it and the fact that we sit here and think for one second that that is not what has taken place with the hole Fed Gov. issue then we will get what we ask for and believe me all you have to do is look back and you will see that is a ugly out come and end that will undo anything that this country was set up as by our fore fathers.

What do you think was they were fighting for any way so we could end up back where we started only with the loss of the land to boot


I’ll end with this as you said 1 ?? at a time and I have gone over that all ready but more for food of thought than looking for answers to them except the first one or two ?////
So think about this old statement well you deliberate on your answer to my questions

Through out history there have been many fights for power on that we can agree
I’m sure but the battles that are not so well see are the ones that take place well a people sleep or are made to believe something that is not the truth and believe it they do as is the case here for both sides. The Scam part I’m sorry there is to much that doesn’t add up there about the fact this pair who are not dumb by any means would have let them selves be taken into jail and sit there this hole time when at least one we know had the E.D. of past to draw on and see it coming along with the rest of it just smells.

People would have not been looking for a Mortgage Elim program if they weren’t in trouble in the first place as sad as that is and is do more to the topic that wee have than on the fact of they were scammed b Dorean

Scammed I will say but by whom well you have my side on that the statement I started to say was “ THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT”

OR GET WHAT LAND AND POWER YOU WANT WITHOUT GOINGTO THE TROUBLE & MESS OF ANOTHER BLOODY WAR . NOW, ISN’T THAT RIGHT?

Lets face it England wasn’t happy about giving up the states and the new world but at the same time they were faced with the country of people just off a war with (you name it ) and they were tired and would have been very unhappy with the monarch for put them into yet another war and now this one half way around the world. There would have been problem as you can imagine and the king was working under the power of the first central bank from there agreement of financing the wars prior so with very little effort and a little lip biting and pride sucking up England set out to conquer another way by money control then people and government .


The big three to conquer hand book

1. By force

2. By church

3. BY control of coin……………….and here we are….. what we going to do now ? how would you approach the dismantling and such of the system in place without letting another take hole behind you as you work .

It is so simple the hard part for the bankers is to keep on track with that simple plan and not to change it

By first scaring then rescue from then by enforcement of power and the money you can systematically take everything .

If you were to look someone up for years and over time you would find that you would need to be less forcefully in your need restrained as the fact Is that your captive will slowly star to think you are there friend and there to protect them and the need for and tie’s will go away all together and you prisoner will keep themselves captive without you doing anything at all.

And so goes a Nation the same way…….. give that some thought as you protect and help that witch is WELL YOU KNOW I DON’T NEED TO SAY ANYMORE ABOUT IT DO I EXCEPT Do you have kid’s and how do you see things’ when there 65 or so look around you and see what you have. Not many (with the exception of the brokers and the banking industry ) can say that they have a hole lot they could put away in savings and most will show you that there hole lives are dependent on the credit that keep them just under even .

Why the forecloses of homes that is just getting started and should way pass up the + from the up swing as it always happens up then down Hey wasn’t that the company theme song for the FED’s “What goes up…. Must come down … Spinning wheels got to go round …. Watch the spinning wheel turn and catch a ride on a star”


I have a bit of a problem keeping it shoirt hope you can underrstand it if not just say so

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l8R q8^}>/x=====\/ your ball i'll wait but plz no more b.s. it's not that hard to read what I'm saying it is only if you don't want to face it so if you are antone with an open mind and such you'll aproch this withone and who knows we bothmight learn something in the end.

l8r

KYHOOYA said...

how much you want to betthat do to the power play by afew as of late . That the bankers are making new rules to counter act the truth as we speek and the this window oif any in the legal right of the people vers banking will be close be for eyou know it

just a thought

one more when was it the last time you saw a large group of people thatwas going against the banks or the like that had the need toghetherness to make a differance and scare them......... my self can't think of one you know have something in ther closet if you look long enough and with that you can make powerful men step down and go away from there fight against you you agreee ?

KYHOOYA said...

how is it that I when through 12 yr. of school and 4 yr. of higher Education and it was'nt intill I was well into my third home and twice as old that I started to learn one thing about this countrys $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

you would have thought for all of the homework and class tome that instead of making paper art and head dresses for the thankgiving day class play that somewhere along that 16 yr. someone could have fit in an hour or two to hit the high light or something just a little but I can tell you not one min of time explaind the system the way it is for real just a bunch of crap that mean nothing and is helpful even less in the real world.
no it took self E>D to find out and some loss even to pay for it where is the education on what is got to be a major = to know and get by in the world?



tell me that 16 yr. of what 2+2

another part of the song I beleive it goes "Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing You got to have Something if you want what will truly be" you see I could be wrong on the word for that but still a good song don't you think.


If it halp when reading my stufff I'm a smartass by nature and do like a good play on words but i'm horable about taking any time toe reread and correct grammer and spelling for it punch afect any way

nothing from noyhing get you nothing won't you wanta be with me cus you might wanta get you something before if you wanta to be truly freeeeeee .


now I'm goi to habve that stuck in my head all day oh well not bad as song's go.



would you look at the time holly shit I got to get the )_(*& out of here I'll get back later as if that needed to be said. life sucking train reck of a blog just can't keeep from coming back!


l8r qB^)>x=====\/ sun's out see ya!

tcob247 said...

Kahooya

Do you have the day off today
Your fingers must be raw.
Especially from typing so many extra letters than are called for.

"my question here is:
What do you think abouit whgat I just said and what do you think it would take to hget the FED's res bank to give up it's power (Imean as it was set up it should be only our congress saying so i know that much ) but what will it take to remove them and get congress to do so? my bet is GOOD LUCK trying, maybe a revelotion perhapes?"

Kahooya...

PERHAPES you are just that man to start the revolution. Are you up to it?
I'm sure you could find some followers.
How about it?

mogel said...

Mogel said...NO loans originate from bank's own deposits!

What are you talking about?

You're going to have to clarify that statement. I can't tell if you're attempting to "cleverly" twist words, or if you're just plain stupid. Which is it?
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Great to be Moi: Read the Federal Reserve Publication, "Modern Money Mechanics", and you will have your question answered, and you will finally realize that you are the STUPID ONE. Or maybe you can't read or that you don't have average reading comprehension? In that case, you can't be helped since it's obvious, you have already made up your mind of what the truth really is & refuse to be open minded.

mogel said...

Here you go, "It's great to be me, the Stupid One", A/K/A GR82BMOI


http://www.freedomcommittee.com/5534/freedom/books/mmm/mmm2.html

Once you've finished reading it, why don't you give a report to everyone what you've learned.

KYHOOYA said...

DID YOU HEAR THAT?

I THOUGHT I HEAR something,
Nay it must have been the wind.

Oh well got to go fingers are worn out and it seems all for nothing to because no one will look and talk about the real issue they just want to talk about how many letter there are in a word.


HERES A WORD FOR YOU TO COUNT LETTERS ON DIPALITTLELDUMSHITAPECKERHEADDISTRACKTORFAGAMONIOUSEPERCIPITIVEDICKWADWHOCOULD'NTFINDENOUGHTPOWERTORUNAHALFWATTLOGHTBULBFROMTHATPEABRAINOF NOUSESOGOFUCKYOURSELFANDLETPEOPLEWHOWANTTOTALKABOUTTHINGSINAOPENMINDEDWAYDOSOWITHOUTYOURINJECTIVENONPRODUCTIVEONELINGERSTHATONLYSHOWHOWMUCHOFANASSHOLEYOUREALYARESOIFWORDANDLETTERCOUNTINGAREYOURTHINGHOPEYOULIKETHISANDPLZUSEITTOKEEPYOURSELFBUSYSOASTONOTNEEDINGTOINSIGHTTHERESPONCEBYMAKINGTHECORNHOLLYOSOUNDYOUDOSOAGAINUNLESSYOUHAVESOMETHINGNEWTOADDORAAREOFTHEFRAMEOFMINDTODISCUSETHISTOPICINAPRODUCTIVEMANNERTHANFUCKOFFANDGOWASTESOMEBODYOTHERTHANHERESTIMEBECAUSEYOUONELINESHITISTHESHOWOFTHATOFAPERSONWHONOSNOTHINGANDISSOSTUPIDTHEYWOULDTRYANDLEARNANYTHINGTOBOOTASS.

mogel said...

Great to be Moi said: "In the mortgage industry, banks amount to little more than front line paper pushers for which they get paid a fee. The banks don’t decide what rate you’ll pay - the market does.
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I guess you also believe that a person's credit is meaningless too in the interest rate that is charged by the banks.

mogel said...

Great to be Moi said: "In the mortgage industry, banks amount to little more than front line paper pushers for which they get paid a fee. The banks don’t decide what rate you’ll pay - the market does."
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Your explanation doesn't account for lenders that keep their own paper or loans they originate. If that happens & they fractionalize that paper so they can loan out 9 more times in loans, what's the fee that the lender institution made? Can you say "infinite return"? How is a fee and an infinite return related in this example?

GR82BMOI said...

Mogel said...”Once you've finished reading it, why don't you give a report to everyone what you've learned”

I believe I asked you first. Why don’t you simply answer the questions?

neodemes said...

moogie,

Kurt made a definitive statement that this would be settled in August.

Obviously it won't and it isn't a mater over which he has any control.

The wheels will grind slowly and when all is said and done, your boys will be dust.

Whine all you want about the borrower fuding his own loan and therefore paying twice.

Pure BS. The borrower provided a promise only and in the case of you and your ilk, that promise isn't worth the paper you scrawled your signature on.

Maybe when you rule your own planet someday, you will have the control you desire.

Until then...RAVE ON!

tcob247 said...

kahooya

You finally spelled something right.

"HERES A WORD FOR YOU TO COUNT LETTERS ON DIPALITTLELDUMSHITAPECKERHEADDISTRACKTORFAGAMONIOUSEPERCIPITIVEDICKWADWHOCOULD'NTFINDENOUGHTPOWERTORUNAHALFWATTLOGHTBULBFROMTHATPEABRAINOF NOUSESOGOFUCKYOURSELFANDLETPEOPLEWHOWANTTOTALKABOUTTHINGSINAOPENMINDEDWAYDOSOWITHOUTYOURINJECTIVENONPRODUCTIVEONELINGERSTHATONLYSHOWHOWMUCHOFANASSHOLEYOUREALYARESOIFWORDANDLETTERCOUNTINGAREYOURTHINGHOPEYOULIKETHISANDPLZUSEITTOKEEPYOURSELFBUSYSOASTONOTNEEDINGTOINSIGHTTHERESPONCEBYMAKINGTHECORNHOLLYOSOUNDYOUDOSOAGAINUNLESSYOUHAVESOMETHINGNEWTOADDORAAREOFTHEFRAMEOFMINDTODISCUSETHISTOPICINAPRODUCTIVEMANNERTHANFUCKOFFANDGOWASTESOMEBODYOTHERTHANHERESTIMEBECAUSEYOUONELINESHITISTHESHOWOFTHATOFAPERSONWHONOSNOTHINGANDISSOSTUPIDTHEYWOULDTRYANDLEARNANYTHINGTOBOOTASS

Looks like gutter language is your best bet. You spell 4 letter words the best

Did you copy and paste and forward on to your 9 year old daughter?

tcob247 said...

Does anybody know whatever happened to Farrel LeCompte and Guy Santeramo?

son of a prophet said...

careful when messing with the gub




The Men Who Knew Too Much?



NSA Wiretapping Whistleblowers Found Dead in Italy and Greece

Adamo Bove and Costas Tsalikidis: Both uncovered a secret bugging system and both met untimely ends.

Was That Just A Coincidence? And Who Made Your Cell Phone?

Guest blogged by Joseph Cannon

Is someone murdering people who know too much about NSA wiretapping overseas?

Two whistleblowers — one in Italy, one in Greece — uncovered a secret bugging system installed in cell phones around the world. Both met with untimely ends. The resultant scandals have received little press in the United States, despite the profound implications for American critics of the Bush administration.

Last month, Italian telecommunications security expert Adamo Bove either leapt or was pushed from a freeway overpass; he left no note and had no history of depression. Last year (March, 2005), Greek telecommunications expert Costas Tsalikidis met with a similarly enigmatic end. Both had uncovered American attempts to eavesdrop on government officials, anti-war activists, and private businessmen.

The Bove case relates to the long-standing controversy over the CIA's kidnapping of cleric Abu Omar, who was flown to Egypt and tortured. The post-Berlusconi government of Italy is attempting to arrest and try all of the CIA personnel involved. Bove used mobile phone records to trace more than two dozen American agents.

Bove had also revealed that his employer, Telecom Italia, had allowed illegal "spyware" — undetectable wiretaps — to infest Italy's largest communications system. His testimony helped to uncover the unsettling relationship between SISMI chief Marco Mancini and Telecom Italia head Giuliano Tavaroli. (Mancini, recently arrested by Italian investigators, has also come under some suspicion for his possible role in the strange affair of Major General Nicola Calipari, killed by American troops in Iraq.) In the 1990s, Bove had received wide praise for helping to secure convictions of two bosses in the Camorra, Naples' answer to the Sicilian Mafia.

The case of Costas Tsalikidis — an engineer for Vodaphone, Greece's top telecommunications firm — offers a similar picture. Tsalikidis discovered an extraordinarily spohisticated piece of spyware within his company's network. The Prime Minister and other top officials were targeted, along with Greek military officers, anti-war activists, various business figures — and a cell phone within the American embassy itself. This page gives a full list of the targets, very few of whom could be considered as having even a remote connection to terrorism.

As investigative journalists Paolo Pontoniere and Jeffrey Klein report:


The Vodaphone eavesdropping was transmitted in real time via four antennae located near the U.S. embassy in Athens, according to an 11-month Greek government investigation. Some of these transmissions were sent to a phone in Laurel, Md., near America's National Security Agency.

According to Ta Nea, a Greek newspaper, Vodafone's CEO privately told the Greek government that the bugging culprits were "U.S. agents." Because Greece's prime minister feared domestic protests and a diplomatic war with the United States, he ordered the Vodafone CEO to withhold this conclusion from his own authorities investigating the case.

The CEO of Vodaphone in Greece, George Koronias, has — like Giuliano Tavaroli, his Italian counterpart — come under the suspicion of having a hidden relationship with American and British intelligence. At least three Vodafone comunications hubs (one expert says the number could be as high as 22) were compromised by the eavesdropping technology. Koronias had reported only two of these bugs, and had failed to alert a watchdog agency of the discovery of further listening devices.

Vodafone is a British company, comparable to Sprint in the United States. Testifying before a Greek parliamentary committee, Koronias insisted that no-one in the U.K. could have had any connection to the ultra-sophisticated spyware.


'Only Ericsson's staff could have set up such a device,' he said. Ericsson furiously countered that Vodafone not only knew about the illegal software but had activated it at the request of British intelligence agents.
More on Ericsson's official response:


Ericsson, the company that produces the software used by Vodafone, issued an announcement clarifying that two types of software were employed for tapping the phone conversations.

The first one employed legally had been developed by Ericsson and had been installed in Vodafone, yet it was not activated. The second software, which was of unknown origins, namely it had not been developed by Ericsson, had been illegally installed in Vodafone’s system to activate the legal software and erase the traces of the phone-tapping.

This is, by any measure, a troubling admission — especially since Ericsson manufactures many mobile phones used in the United States. Vodaphone insists they were never informed of this "feature" in Ericsson phones, although Ericsson executive Bill Zikou has testified that the company disclosed the truth via its sales force and instruction manuals.

American security expert John Brady Kiesling reveals further details about the bugging devices in Ericsson cell phones:


Built into the Ericsson (Sweden) software that runs the Vodafone (UK-owned) mobile telephony network switching system in Greece, and similar GSM service providers around the world, is a little-known "Legal Interception" software package designed to be used by law enforcement authorities. This software allows incoming and outgoing conversations from allegedly up to 5000-6000 mobile phone numbers to be recorded, on presentation of a valid judicial warrant. [A friend in telecoms claims governments require that telephone companies give law enforcement authorities the capability to monitor up to 5% of active calls as one precondition for an operating license]. However, to unlock and use the eavesdropping package, the company must pay Ericsson a hefty fee (allegedly four million euros). The Greek government allegedly refused to pay this fee, despite its desire for wiretapping capability during the 2004 Athens Summer Olympics. One reason was that a clear legal basis for such eavesdropping was not yet in place.

Apparently someone persuaded a Vodafone or Ericsson employee with access to the switching network to install a software parasite in at least four and possibly more of the 22 call management centers that Vodafone operates in Greece.

The family of Costas Tsalikidis, the whistleblower who was found hanged in his apartment, does not accept the verdict of suicide. Neither does his fiancée. The Greek press has hinted at further skullduggery:

The prosecutor also visited the lawyer of Taslikidis’ family, Themistoklis Sofos, who announced that his clients will be filing a lawsuit against unknown parties for embezzlement and falsification of documents pertaining to the deceased’s emails. In addition, they will subpoena all those who participated in the much-publicised meeting just before the revelation of the wiretappings; a meeting Vodafone denies ever having taken place.
Perhaps most disturbing of all, Vodaphone had eliminated the spyware from its system before Greek intelligence could conduct an examination. Greek spy chief Ioannis Korantis testified that this move amounted to destruction of evidence.

Are Ericsson cell phones the only ones with the built-in spy technology? We can't be sure. But one thing is certain: When the fellow on TV asks "Can you hear me now?", the person he's addressing may not be the only one who can say yes.

KYHOOYA said...

jUST AS i THOUGHT NO ONE HERE WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE REAL ISSUES ARE AND WHAT THEY WILL DO TO THE FUTURE, nOOO YOU JUST WANT TO SIT ON HERE AND PLAY i SAID SHE SAID tHE BIG QUESTION IS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SEEM TO WANT TO FIND ANY EXCUSE TO NOT ANSWER IT THE QUESTION IS :


wHY DO THE LENADERS BANKS AND THE LOT OF YOU HIDE AND LIE WELL PRETENDING TO DO SOME BIG FREINDLY FAVOR FOR THE BORROWER?

WHY IS THE HOLE PROCESS AT BIG HIDE AND SEEK GAME?

WHY IS IT THAT THE BANKS SPEEND ALL THAT MONEY CRYING HOLE STUPID THE PUBLIC IS TO LOBBY FOR THESE BULLSHIT LAWS THAT DON'T HELP ANYONE BUT THEM TO GET MORE MONY FROM YOU

ANNNNND THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION OF THE DAY IS IF THE TRANSACTION IS SUCH A UNPFRONT AND TRUSTWORTH TRUTHFULL EVENT THEN WHY IS THE BANK AND THE BROKERS LYING AND ALL THE REST THAT GO'S WITH IT WHY ARN'T THEY UPFRONT AND PLAY BY THE SAME FARE RULE THAT EVERYONE ELES HAS TO AND PLZ DON'T HAND ME ABUNCH OF CRAP ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WORK'S I WOULD LIKE TO NOT SPELL OUT EVERY STEP OF IT EVERYTIME THERE IS A QUESTION ASKED IN OTHER WORDS i GIVE YOU THE RESECT THAT YOU KNOW AS DO i HOW THE HOLE THING WORKS AND ALL THE SHADY THING THAT GO ON JUST TELL ME HOW IF IT SO UP AND UP WHY THEY ARE SO SHADY ABOUT IT ?


"IF FIRST BY INFLATION THYEN BY DEFLATION THE BANKS WILL STRIP ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS ONCE GREAT COUNRTY OF THERE HOME AND LAND WITCH THERE FATHERSFATHERS COUQURED"

CAN'T REMENBER WHO WROTE IT FROM HISTORY BY IT ONE OF THE PRESEDENTS COULD BE
A. JACKSON

AT ANY RATE IF THE TRUTH BE KNOWN AND ALL THE CARD ARE ON THE TABLE YOU ANDD i BOTH KNOW THE BANK WOULD BE SEEN FOR THERE DISEPTIVE WAY AND THEN SO BE SHUT DOWN OR MADE TO CHANGE OR IF YOU GOT SOMETHING I'M ALL EARS



I'LL WAIT



I DON'T THINK ONE OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING BUT CRAP AND NOTHING TO OFFER UP THAT IS MORE THATN SOME SIDE STEP TO THE REAL QUESTION JUST LIKE NEO DID JUST A FEW POST BACK WHEN HE SAID "

IT DOS'NT MATTER WHAT THE BAKE DO BECAUSE YOU SIGNED A PROMISE THAT TO PAY THAT IS AS WORTHLESS AS THE YOU SIGNATURE IS"

NOW THAT IS A STATMENT OF HOW YOU ALL THINK AND HOW THE BANKE ARE RIGHT THERE BACKING YOU UP

BY THE WAY NEO i OWN THREE HOMES AND PAY ON ALL OF THEM AS FOR THAT HOME ON WHEELS YOU GOT A LOAN on(WITH OUT USING "conventional financing") should be your after another 250 eeeee zzzzz payments isn't that right mr. RE investor keep on with all the bulland go no where answers boys and girls because it just add to the list of thing that tell me the bank are crook and they have to be change if we are as a country going to keep going

I'll take the heat and be aHypocrite for a minute

Tin Cup kiss my ass with all that better than thou crap as if you think that you are something I could give a shit about what you think as for it is all nothing but you show your same old stupid self over and over again I could run a round and around you when it come to put down and quick witt but I like to be nice to the handicaped so I'll let you babble on there oh teacher of nothing and keeper of the cornhole-le!-o! what a real dum ass you are I can't think of what it must be to hav eto be around and hear the shit that come out of your mouth no wounder your son joined the serve just to get away from you inane dribble of endless bullshit thyat would drive anyone to run screming into night.
fell free to spell check as you like teacher.

back to the the little yellow bus and a helmet for you tin cup or that job you got begging on the freeway off ramp and shining windows for some spare change. LOL what a maaarooon.

GR82BMOI said...

Santeramo disappeared at the first sign of trouble, didn't he? LeCompte, of course, is facing prison, unless he cuts a deal and rats out the rest of 'em. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. In the meantime, how 'bout a trip down memory lans...

http://www.ccresource.net/news20040812-updates.html
On last Tuesday night's call, Kurt Johnson, one of the principals of the Dorean/Oxford Trust Group was the guest speaker.

The call went almost 2 hours and Kurt was quite gracious in answering every conceivable question we could throw at him.

FACT: The Company did not go public with this process until they had at least 100 successful mortgage eliminations. They started with their friends and relatives.

FACT: The Company holds a $120 Million Dollar Letter of Credit -- backed by the assets of an 85 year old $800 Million Dollar Swiss Trust company.

You'll be able to hear from others who have gone through the process. For example... Farrell LeCompte tells his story of how he learned about the program... and approximately 5 weeks into it, he was told to stop making his mortgage payments.

A few weeks after that... he received title to his house FREE & CLEAR which he recorded at his county recorder's office as "released" on 06/30/04. There are now over 200 such success stories.

There was also another gentlemen on the call by the name of Mark, had his mortgage released and recorded at his county clerk's office.

This program also gives you a significant chunk of cash at the end of the complete process... which takes about 6 months depending upon the quickness of your getting the re-financing. For example, a $200,000 mortgage... -- you end up with a ZERO mortgage -- plus $50,000 in cash.

Imagine the possibilities,
Guy Santeramo
CCR Marketing Director
516 872 2249
guy@CCResource.net

dgwondering said...

kyhooya, get some professional medical attention and when you are mentally capable of learning again at least finish high school or get a GED. You're going to harm yourself and your family.

GR82BMOI said...
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GR82BMOI said...

Whoops - spoke too soon. Looks like Santeramo is hawking another get rich quick scheme. Mogel - you in on this one yet? See http://www.1stepmaximizer.com/2056/

complainers suck said...

GR82BMOI said...
Santeramo disappeared at the first sign of trouble, didn't he? LeCompte, of course, is facing prison, unless he cuts a deal and rats out the rest of 'em. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. In the meantime, how 'bout a trip down memory lans...

Wouldn't your theory be contingent on the fact that there is something to "rat out" about? Lecompte or any of the other brokers for that matter were not around from the beginning, so how would any of them know something specifically illegal to "rat out" about? You obviously don't know anything about the federal system, primarily because a person is not compelled to "rat out" anyone in order to not be sentenced to jail. Speeding carries a maximum amount of jail time, but how many people serve jail time for the "crime" of speeding, especially when there's no one to blame but your own foot for pressing down to hard?

neodemes said...

Guy by numbers

More Guy

habakkuk said...
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tcob247 said...

Kahooya said....
"I could give a shit about what you think"

Looks like you really do

awe....thanks for caring

neodemes said...

Keep Your Head Out Of Your Ass said:

JUST LIKE NEO DID JUST A FEW POST BACK WHEN HE SAID "

IT DOS'NT MATTER WHAT THE BAKE DO BECAUSE YOU SIGNED A PROMISE THAT TO PAY THAT IS AS WORTHLESS AS THE YOU SIGNATURE IS"


********************************

Actually, waht I said was "The borrower provided a promise only and in the case of you and your ilk, that promise isn't worth the paper you scrawled your signature on."

Now, regardless of what the banks do with that note, it doesn't mean you payed for the house twice, no matter how you slice it.

**********************************

BY THE WAY NEO i OWN THREE HOMES AND PAY ON ALL OF THEM AS FOR THAT HOME ON WHEELS YOU GOT A LOAN on(WITH OUT USING "conventional financing")

You claim to own 3 homes, and surely knew the terms of your loans. Unhappy? Sell them off, pay the current loan balances and live in a tent somewhere, preferably in your native country, 'cause, based on your command of the English language, it must be somewhere else.

Just for the record, my house is stick built, but for those interested in the topic, check out:


Mobile Home Investing

hth

GR82BMOI said...
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GR82BMOI said...

Mogel said...”Proponents of the lending system just the way it is, like you, want to talk about everything else except the fraud of the lenders and their nondisclosure....much like a currency can lose it's value almost overnight like what happened in Germany's history where thousands of dollars wouldn't even buy a loaf of bread.”

That statement pretty much sums up the colossal flaw in your reasoning and absolutely insures failure for you and all the rest of the nit wits that have jumped on the Dorean bandwagon to homelessness. Banks are nothing more than a tiny little spoke in a great big economic wheel and to direct your scheming and scamming at banks under the guise of economic reform is just plain ridiculous, not to mention stupid. I’ve got news for ya - banks are operating legally in this country whether you like it or not and if you would bother to find the answers to those questions I posted, you might understand that the words “bank”, “economy” and “Federal Reserve” are not synonymous.

Banks are nothing more than commercial businesses, in many respects not much unlike any other business. To put it as simply as possible, a banks raw inventory is its deposits, which they “mark up” and lend to others. And, contrary to your twisted notions, banks aren’t even all that good at it, in the scope of things. Five minutes of research will show you that Wal Mart, Pulte Homes, Budweiser and a slew of Vegas casino’s are all more profitable than the top three banks in the nation.

Not only do you not understand the big picture, you haven’t got an original thought in your head. Many before you have tried these tired old arguments and have proven without doubt that they just don’t amount to a hill of beans. There are ways to effect change in our country but clinging to uneducated, twisted and misguided logic just because it says so on the internet is not one of them - I absolutely guarantee it.

Keep it up Mogel, ‘cause ten or fifteen years from now, those of us who were smart enough work the system (there are PLENTY of ways to do that legally) will be swinging on the porch of a beach front condo in Margaritaville while you and your posse of misfits are eeking out an existence on your tiny little SS checks (assuming you can afford to retire in the first place). Unless, of course, you manage to land yourself a free room at the Greybar.

neodemes said...

Don't fight the system, boys and girls.

Utilize it.

Learn how!

KYHOOYA said...

As I said you all keep post what you think and the fact keep saying your wrong .

Why is it so hard for you, anyone of you to answer the question that I have posted?

You keep side winding your why back to all this crap that the system is telling you. you go right ahead and work it and you know what you may be sitting nice in 15 yr. but that don't change jack.
The system is no go for this country and will be it's down fall. So as you sit on you pourch swing enjoying that drink & thinking of all that you have, think about how the next 50 yr are going to be & how the kid's today will pay for your lack of backbone to change it.
That you were to much the lemming, to scared to get out of the box and mack a change.

Your exactly what the banker hope for when they pictured the way this would work and as in history you are the seed that will cause your kids to pay for yours.

Hope that I'm wrong I really do because what I see and kwon will play out if ther are not changes will be a world that no one should have to live.

You might want to think about the fact that we have not always had it so nice and fluffy and that it take a very little tip on the scale to cause the change in think for the worse. You may just set in to motion by your lake of willingness to fight the system that has been to easy to spend the future at any cost.

I not that person I have heard everyone one here at one time or another state that they think that the system has problems or that it needs to change yet you are the one who support it. All in all you sit there and in the same breath say that you take and give nothing to change but all to cause it's contiued juggernut how can you look at your self in the mirror and not fight that witch you no to be wrong and that you know will be the cause of great hardship for the kids of today . Weather or not they sleep in your house at night or that of your friends, brothers & sisters. As i said you have no value no backbone your afraid of what might they (the Goverment & such) might take from you if you get involved or that something in that closet might get put out to mack you stop it the fight aganist them all this along with the rest of the catch words that the Goverment like to use to discount peole and try to get them to leave there and go back to the the lemming way of the masses.

when you no something is wrong and do nothing you are no better that the one doing the wrong.

keep it up and enjoy your drinks they will be the blood of the future of this country and show the LAZY WAY that you helped get it there. it's easy to be a lemming all you have to do is follow.

The true mark of a man that make a differance is that of one that thinks more of others than that of themselfs and is willing to give up what he has in hopes that by doing so it just might be the ONE person that makes the difference that causes the change.
Again it's easy to do nothing isn't it?
“Those unwilling to look at the both sides with an open mind are ether lacking the understanding ,comprehension and willingness to be informed or are distracted by there own distain or lust there is no hope for them and in so being the efforts spent to communicate is lost in a pool of ineptness. If they would only stand, they would see that the pool in witch they are drowning is so sallow that with the slightest of effort on there part could easily step from it to dry land.”

MJS 8/21/06

tcob247 said...

kahooya

I'm interested.

Could you explain step by step what it is that YOU are doing to change this corrupt system?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

The Giant Headed Baby next door is doing well. However, his parents had hoped of the possibility of the baby's head being declared a planet. They realize since Pluto has now been demoted, their dream of Planet Baby Head is over.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Travelzoo is still offering Easter Island tours to see the Giant Headed Baby. Just enter discount code:"GiantFNHead"

KYHOOYA said...

“Those unwilling to look at the both sides with an open mind are ether lacking the understanding ,comprehension and willingness to be informed or are distracted by there own distain or lust there is no hope for them and in so being the efforts spent to communicate is lost in a pool of ineptness. If they would only stand, they would see that the pool in witch they are drowning is so sallow that with the slightest of effort on there part could easily step from it to dry land.”

MJS 8/21/06


FOR THE RECORD

I DON'T HAVE ANY TIES TO DOREAN AND AM NOT PART OF ANY PROGRAM OR SUCH BUT DO SUPPORT THERE EFFORT HOLE HEARTEDLY AND THAT OF ANYONE THAT IS WILLING TO STAND AND MAKE A DIFFERANCE WHEN WRONG IS THE FIGHT .

GOOD DAY TO ALL THE NEYSAYING LEMMINGS TO THE CLIFF AND OVER YOU GO ENJOY IT WELL YOU CAN.

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT SOMETHING YOU KNOW AND SEE EVERYDAY IS NOT GOOD AND YET IN THE NEXT BREATH YOU ARE FIGHTING THOSE WHO WOULD TAKE THE CHANCE TO CHANGE IT?

I BET YOU WERE THE KINDA KIDS THAT WHEN THERE WAS A FRIEND THAT WAS IN NEED WAS THERE FOR THEY ALL THE WAY UP TO THE POINT WHERE IT MIGHT BE THAT YOU HAD TO PUT OUT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A LOSS FOR YOU TO SAVE JOIN THEM AND HELP. NOTHING TO LOSE AND YOUR RIGHT IN THERE NEXT TO THEM BUT IF THE CHANCE OF ANYTHING THAT MAY COST YOU AND THERE ON THERE OWN.

DID YOU RUN TO WHO EVER WON THE SCHOOL YARD FIGHT AND ACT LIKE YOU WERE THERE SUPPORTER THE HOLE TIME EVEN IF IT WAS YOUR FREIND THAT LOST I HAVE TO THINK YOU WERE AND ARE.

TO THE FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT! WELL THAT IS IF I CAN DO IT WITHOUT ANY REAL TROUBLE, RIGHT?

I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS ALL AWASTE OF TIME BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WILL NEVER CHANGE BUT THERE MAY BE THAT ONE WHO FROM WHAT I POST (NO MATER IF YOU SAY YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT OR NOT) WILL FIND SOMETHING I SAID THE KEY TO THERE CHANGING TO HELP FIGHT TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.

WE HAVE BECOME SUCH A LAZY LAZY BUCH AND I'M AFRAID THAT WE AND OUR'S WILL PAY FOR THAT.

REMEMBER THAT FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION SO FOR EVERY NON-ACTION THERE IS THE SAME. LIKE IT OR NOT THAT IS THE FACTS.

L8R qB^}>x=====\/ hope for better day's is never enough to get it done. you have to work for it .

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Audrey Tautou. Would ya?

papa_dont_preach said...

G8ToBePosting, so why do you give a shit about any of this? Stand to lose something? It's quite obvious that your tone is one of a bar member.

Nemo said,

"Don't fight the system, boys and girls. Utilize it. Learn how!"

Oh yeah, go to the expert's site and learn what? How to file for bankruptcy? I'll pass...

tcob247 said...

kahooya

You musta missed my post

Could you explain step by step what it is that YOU are doing to change this corrupt system?

I didnt see anything in your post except formorale support for people like Kurt and Scott

That is not very proactive is it?

Seems with your strong language that you would be on the forefront of changing the corrupt system you speak of

Are you doing anything else or just lip service.

Are you willing to go to jail like Kurt for your cause? DO you believe enough to put yourself in that position right now?

10:18 AM

laughing lots said...

GR82BMOI said...
Santeramo disappeared at the first sign of trouble, didn't he? LeCompte, of course, is facing prison, unless he cuts a deal and rats out the rest of 'em. Wouldn't surprise me a bit............

Unfortunately, Mr Lecompte was swooped in by his own hardships in life or what ever the case may have been in his life at the time,or perhaps just bad judgement, but what does he owe Kurt Johnson? NOTHING!!! I hope that he sings like a canary on those 2 wack jobs. It is because of those two that he is in this predicament now and i can only imagine what his family is going through,and i am sure that MR.Lecompte regrets EVER being involved in this crap or with those two in the first place, so i hope he does rat and smiles through the whole process.Again, what does he owe those 2 ???? Not a damn thing! When it is all said and done and those two get out of prison,AGAIN..they will be right back shortly after due to the criminal mischeif that they are ALWAYS in and have been for years and they will unfortunatley suck in more victims and ruin more lives..
GOOOOO FARREL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tcob247 said...

GOOOOO FARREL ?????????????

He was a victim sucked in?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

He deserves everything he gets

He called us names and physically threatened us because we dared ask legitimate questions.

He bragged about his Mercedes and gated community he lived in.

He told us he was successful in the program....hell he told us there were hundreds of success stories

He defended Scott and Kurt and was an avid follower

Please don't make him out to be a victim

laughing lots said...

Tcob247
It seems that you are not happy with my comments. Are you mad because YOU didn’t get YOUR check from the group? Are you mad at yourself for falling for such a ridiculous scheme and suddenly find yourself a victim?
Who cares about gated communities, there are apartment complexes that are gated and the rent is four hundred a month. You can buy a Mercedes for twenty five thousand. Point is, that a person making a modest living can live in a gated community and drive a Mercedes so who cares about that.
Justice will come to Mr. Lecompte that you can count on, as will everyone else involved.
Should he tell the Government what he knows to help himself? ABSOLUTLY! If it weren’t for the 2-scam masters he and a few others and their families wouldn’t be in the situation that they are in.
Was he any more a victim than YOU? If you would have gotten everything you were promised would you be a supporter? If you believe in something, really believe in something, lobby for it, go to an attorney make your case and slap a class action lawsuit against the people you feel wronged by, start a group, go to the press, whatever it is that makes your voice heard and PROVE IT.
Sounds to me that you are just pissed because you didn’t get your “get rich quick check”.
If the government came to you just because you were involved in trying to get a check like you did, would you tell them what you know to save your self? I bet you would!
There are no get rich quick schemes and if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

tcob247 said...

No, youv'e got it wrong

I was not looking to get rich quick.

Farrel made some huge promises and said they were backed up with legitimate successes

Yes...I should have done more DD

Yes... I think he will sing to the feds ( i think he should and will)

I just know that whatever he gets he deserves, cause he treated people like crap who really wanted answers and help with their situations that he put them in with his promises.

I dont care about gated communities or Mercedes Benz, but he was the one who always bragged about it.

Yes...Kurt and Scott are the main scammeisters and they are getting what they deserve

I have no probs with 99% of what you said.

god said...

SCENE 1
TCOB: that Farrell deserves everything he gets !#!@$@$@$!@

BLOGGER IDIOT #2: Yeah, and that Guy Santeramo is the devil....!#$@#$!$

SCENE 2

GREEDY BANKER: (sitting in his plush office reading the Mortgage Fraud Blog) LOL!!!! I love these guys....

....(pages his secretary) Hey, i thought we're only paying 5 guys to post on that mortgage fraud blog...whose this tcob character?? Ah, what the hell, we can use another helpful idiot who diverts attention away from the real criminals,us...Hahaahahaha...AHHAHAHAHAHAcoughAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

THE END


Screenplay...............god
Executive Producer.......god
Director.................god

god said...

FROM THE PRODUCER OF "BANKERS AND BLOGGER IDIOTS I"......

COMES..... "BANKERS AND BLOGGERS II....The Idiocy continues"

Idiots on the blog continue their foolish frenzy over $3grand and some change, meanwhile, the GREEDY BANKER'S plot the takedown of a nation.

Will they ever realize how much time they've waisted???

Will they ever know how idiotic they really are...BEFORE ITS TOO LATE??????

COMING THIS FALL!!!

DXBlogger said...

Here's something you may not realize.

What a bank buys is the loan servicing rights: they do not buy the loan! Go look at Wells Fargo's statements to the SEC.

They purchase MSR or mortgage servicing rights on loans originate by other lenders.

In the event that they originate the loan, they securitize it and sell it on the secondary market. They in turn retain servicing rights and only sell the "note."

In both cases for this bank they claim that the MSR or mortgage servicing rights is an ASSETT, and are no longer in the possession of the note.

According to MERS - no one could even know who the real holder of the note now is.

Now here's a dumb question: if MERS (who's job it is to keep track of mortgage assignments) deems it impossible to determine who the real holder of the note is, then how can the mortgage servicer send them any money?

A second question: when were any of us ever informed that the signing of the note created 2 assets for the bank? 1. Mortgage Servicing Rights and 2. An actual negotiable instrument.

Q. Can the mortgage servicer show that any monies are forwarded on to the actual holder of the note?

A. NO! Because no monies are ever forwaded on! According to Wells statement to the SEC, when they purchase mortgage servicing rights it is the right to collect principle and interest. They say nothing about the obligation or duty to forward that principle on to the real holder of the note.

So, my final question. When the bank that is the mortgage servicer, is foreclosing on the property what asset are they trying to collect on? The note or the MSR?

laughing lots said...

god said
...(pages his secretary) Hey, i thought we're only paying 5 guys to post on that mortgage fraud blog...whose this tcob character?? Ah, what the hell, we can use another helpful idiot who diverts attention away from the real criminals,us...

You sound as wacky as your friends.
I dont like banks and bankers and all the other things that go along with the corrupt government etc... but if you feel that way, do something about it besides trying to steal from them because your going to get caught and get in trouble!!!! foolish GOD, if you cant prove it in court then shut up and deal with it.When you start stealing money from the government there going to get pissed off.Just because you think something is wrong with an insitution doesnt mean you have the right to do what you want..The only difference in your band of thugs is instead of going into a bank with a gun, you used paper and got caught...what a shock!!retards.

god said...

"When you start stealing money from the government there going to get pissed off.Just because you think something is wrong with an insitution doesnt mean you have the right to do what you want.."

OK, I KNOW I'M GOD AND I SHOULD BE ALL-KNOWING.....BUT, COULD SOMEONE THERE ON EARTH TELL ME WHAT THIS FOOLISH MORTAL IS SAYING?? DID THIS PERSON JUST SAY WHAT I THOUGHT HE SAID??? LOL!!!!!!!

IN OTHER WORDS YOU THINK GEORGE WASHINGTON AND THE FOUNDERS OF THE COUNTRY ARE RETARDS TOO...HUH???...THATS LIKE SAYING "just because you dont like fascism doesn't mean you have the right to do whats lawful"

IF I WASNT BUSY FIXING WORLD HUNGER AND ANSWERING PRAYERS I'D SLAP SOME SENSE INTO YOU.

BY THE WAY, NEVER ARGUE WITH god;)

laughing lots said...

I tell you what chopsley, why dont you set up shop like your friends and see what happens! AGAIN, if you feel banking institutions and government etc.. is doing something wrong prove it in court.Get everyone to sign something showing proof,see an attorney, prove your point in court and move forward.
Until then what was being done is illegal, PERIOD.
If i wasnt busy bangin your wife,i would mail you 3k for broken promises hehehehe...

~~The Swami~~~ said...

GOD, When is BANKERS AND BLOGGERS coming out on DVD? It's a must have!

god said...

"if you feel banking institutions and government etc.. is doing something wrong prove it in court"

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN LITTLE MAN (AND I KNOW BECAUSE I MADE YOU)...THERES MORE CASES ON RECORD TO COUNT....BUT JUDGES LIKE ALSUP TURN A BLIND EYE.

"see an attorney"

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! I'LL LET THAT ONE GO...ITS TOO RIDICULOUS TO ANSWER.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Speaking of must have! I can't put down TCOB's book he wrote,"How To Kill Yourself and Get Away With It". When he finds out his wife is gay and tells his therapist,"Hey,how can I hate a woman that loves pussy as much as I do?" That's gold, GOLD!

neodemes said...

papa sez:

"Oh yeah, go to the expert's site and learn what? How to file for bankruptcy? I'll pass..."

Unlike your heroes shenanigans, BK is legal and, in my case, necessary to thwart the dishonorable actions of another. You have a problem with that? No skin off my nose, bucky.

You just keep on renting or trying to welch on your bank financing.

Whatever floats your boat.

Have a nice day.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

TCOB's quote from his book is almost as good as "Fur Pie Doesn't Sell." ALMOST, but isn't.

neodemes said...

satan seaid:

"IT HAS BEEN PROVEN LITTLE MAN (AND I KNOW BECAUSE I MADE YOU)...THERES MORE CASES ON RECORD TO COUNT....BUT JUDGES LIKE ALSUP TURN A BLIND EYE."

**********************************

OK, big mouth. Produce them.

laughing lots said...

Hey neodemes, he can't produce any, dont you know that its a big conspiracy by the government against Scott and Kurt! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Pauligirl said...

mogel said...
Pauligirl said: "If it's a standard loan, the information is in there that the loan will be sold."
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There's no such thing as a "standard loan". There never was a loan. An exchange took place, but the so called borrower is expected to PAY AGAIN PLUS INTEREST. The so called lender created the value for the loan from the promissory note through misrepresentation and deception, nondisclosure, and forgery which created unjust enrichment to the so called lender. That's the original source of the money.
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"PAY AGAIN..." ? You didn't pay it in the first place. You buy a house for $100,000.00. You get a loan. The seller gets his money. You make payments with interest. That's how the bank gets their money back. The bank may sell your loan on the secondary marked in order to free up assets to be able to continue to make loans to other buyers. Please explain what you see as deception here. And once again, it's not forgery. Nobody signed your name but you.

And I use the term "standard" to differentiate it from other types of loans like construction or equity lines.


KYHOOYA said...
wHY DO THE LENADERS BANKS AND THE LOT OF YOU HIDE AND LIE WELL PRETENDING TO DO SOME BIG FREINDLY FAVOR FOR THE BORROWER?


Exactly what do you think the bank is hiding?
P

neodemes said...

KYHOOYA said...
wHY DO THE LENADERS BANKS AND THE LOT OF YOU HIDE AND LIE WELL PRETENDING TO DO SOME BIG FREINDLY FAVOR FOR THE BORROWER?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OH MY GOSH!

I went down to my bank to make a deposit and it was GONE!!!!

Vanished without a trace. I couldn't believe it.

Later on, it was BACK!

It turns out they were there the whole time and just had their cloaking device on because they were writing a home loan.

What a relief.

:-)

GR82BMOI said...

papa_dont_preach said...”so why do you give a shit about any of this?”

My interest was piqued a two years ago when a shirttail acquaintance lost a home in the Dorean scam and I’ve been watching it flame out ever since. Beyond that, I really don’t care all that much. Sometimes I just feel like blasting scammers like Mogel. I can’t help myself, even knowing that Mogel and his ilk are just sorry little conspiracy groupies and their continual misinformed yammering isn’t going to amount squat.

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1:09 PM
laughing lots said...”Should he tell the Government what he knows to help himself? ABSOLUTLY! If it weren’t for the 2-scam masters he and a few others and their families wouldn’t be in the situation that they are in.”

Lecompte knew exactly what he was doing and he was downright nasty about it. I agree he should roll over on the dim duo, but I doubt it’s a very noble gesture. I have a strong suspicion he is motivated to save his own sorry hide, not out of remorse for his victims.

GR82BMOI said...

neodemes said..."Don't fight the system, boys and girls. Utilize it. Learn how!"

Great resource, Neo!

god said...

"Hey neodemes, he can't produce any, dont you know that its a big conspiracy by the government against Scott and Kurt! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha"

___________________________________

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHidiot.....you dont have a clue do you

laughing lots said...

Oh yes i do, i know if i set up shop and do illegal things like your friends i will go to jail genius!!!! It doesnt matter what your beliefs are or how mad you are at the evil bankers.It seems YOUR the one who is clueless! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

complainers suck said...

GR82BMOI said...
Lecompte knew exactly what he was doing and he was downright nasty about it. I agree he should roll over on the dim duo, but I doubt it’s a very noble gesture. I have a strong suspicion he is motivated to save his own sorry hide, not out of remorse for his victims.

What exactly do you mean that "lecompte knew exactly what he as doing"? If I remember correctly, his group was the last helping out until the end with calls, and this was long after the duo could not take anymore clients? This is an indication to me, that his group was in fact concerned for clients, as there were no other movtivations at that time, but to keep the clients informed. What was the motivation, could not have been money? Maybe he was just that passionate about what he believed or wanted to believe, possibly. Are you saying you have never been passionate about anything? I am not defending him, or his alleged actions or behavior, as I have never spoken to him to confirm or deny, but I don't think you or anyone else but he, himself can answer that.

I do know for a fact, that after sara jane abandoned all of her clients, lecompte did actually facilitate communication for these people, and he had no vested interest in doing this for them, but yet he did. So, I think you are wrong. He might try to save his "hide", but I don't believe that he didn't care at all about clients, because actions show otherwise. It seems that he is more likely guilty of not being an effective communicator with his words and expressions, but not intentions.

son of a prophet said...

for those who like to pray, but dont necessarily know how or what to pray....

The following prayer is all encompassing and complete; it has been honed by the HS through many, many yers of prayer....

I say these at least twice a day....

Here it is....

START OUT WITH THE LORDs PRAYER, AS PRAYED BY YESHUA HIMSELF.

THEN ADD AS SOME BOOKS DO NOT...

"IN YESHUAs NAME I PRAY, FOR THE KINGDOM, THE POWER AND GLORY ARE YOURS, NOW AND FOREVER, AMEN.

then say.....

LORD, THANK YOU FOR BLESSING ME WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND KEEPING ME FROM THE EVIL ONE.

LORD, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE COURAGE AND STRENGTH TO DO YOUR WILL AND THE WISDOM TO DISCERN IT.

LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE FOOD THAT I HAVE EATEN TODAY AND THE SINS THAT YOU HAVE FORGIVEN ME.

THANK YOU FOR BLESSING MY FAMILY AND FREINDS WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND KEEPING THEM FROM THE EVIL ONE.
(may add..."ESPECIALLY __________")


LORD, MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT COMFORT THOSE WHO ARE BEING PERSECUTED ON YOUR ACCOUNT.

LORD, MAY THE DOVE OF PEACE DESCEND UPON JERUSALEM TO BRING PEACE TO JERUSALEM.

(obeying cmmand to pray for the peace of jerusalem n the OT)

LORD, MAY THE LEADERS OF MY GOVT. SEE THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS ON ABORTION, GENETIC ENGINEERING AND HUMAN CLONING.

LORD, MAY THE LEADERS OF MY GOVT. BE KEPT SAFE FROM HARM.

(yes, i know that the govt. is corrupt, yet conforming to yeshuas command to pray for the govt. leaders)


THERE IT IS..COMPLETE.

NOTICE ALL ARE THANKS. I ASK YESHUA ONE TIME AND THEN CONTINUALLY GIVE THANKS.

FEEL FREE TO TWEAK THIS AS YOU LIKE, HOWEVER THE FIRST THREE SHOULD BECOME A REGUALAR PART AS THEY ARE ALL ENCOMPASSING OF GODS WILL; NOT OURS. THATS WHY I DID NOT PERSONALISE IT TO MY NEEDS. GOD KNOWS MY NEEDS, I DONT NEED TO TELL HIM AND INSULT HIS INTELLIGENCE.

PEACE OF YESHUA BE WITH YOU.

w said...

Pauligirl said...Please explain what you see as deception here.

pauli, please answer what did the bank put up for "consideration" in ANY contract for the 100K alleged loan if the funds were received from a place other than their vault and from funds that did not belong to the bank in the first place?

how can I enter into contract with you at "no risk" of any kind to me, but you have all the risk?
unjust enrichment.
that is like buying stock knowing that I can never lose. and using someone elses funds to buy the stock, then collect the dividends for myself, no risk, zero.

how just and fair can you really believe that is?

mogel said...

Gr82beme said: I agree he should roll over on the dim duo, but I doubt it’s a very noble gesture.
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Oh great one, you're a piece of work you know. First you condemn Dorean supporters as conspiracy freaks, and then, you say that a Broker should roll over on the Principals for what they know, as if you are assuming that the Dorean Group is just one big conspiracy to defraud stupid clients and that the Brokers somehow have special knowledge about the Dorean Group that no one else has.

OK, since you claim to be the expert on conspiracy mentality, why don't you tell everyone what the Brokers are suppose to know that is so special and how that is going to buy them their freedom???
I think that you are the conspiracy freak judging by your own stupid and uninformed accusations.

Everything that the Dorean Group did was upfront and with full disclosure. There is nothing to tell freakazoid. Get over yourself and your own conceived conspiracy theories.

habakkuk said...

Complainers Suck,

Theres so many false judgements thrown around on this blogg i cant keep count anymore. They refuse to mention all the good that was done for clients who needed help even if it wasn't to their benefit. My family and i were recipients of that help when we needed it.

Some of these fools on this blogg dont hesitate to throw the blame on somebody they've only heard on a conference call a few times...theyve never met the person in real life....THey just dont like their personality (i.e. Farrell) and so now their ready to give the guy a life sentence. Its disgusting!!!

KYHOOYA said...

dgwondering said...
kyhooya, get some professional medical attention and when you are mentally capable of learning again at least finish high school or get a GED. You're going to harm yourself and your family.

6:44 PM

Now that you put it that way I can see the light.

I just hope that it's not to late. If it was'nt for you , who knows what or where I might have done. It scares me to even think about it.

Thank you so much for the kind and thoughtful words that were needed to see that .........


Ya! Right the only good point you have is the one on your head and that light i saw wan't what I thought it was at all, it turns out it was the head light on that freight train you might have seen before ran right over you and your oh so worthless advise but you were to busy telling someone what you thought

You know there sure are a lot of big mouth people on this Blog that are more interested in being teacher than posting any facts about the questions put out to then.

It has to make you wounder why everytime they are asked a question about mortgages they seem to think that it was a question about how to spell a word or what they thing should be th right comma or exclaimation makk shought be used. Why not just answer the questions?

I'll help you with that one being how you been helping everyone else with there english so much.

YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER TO POST OR YOU WOULD DO SO AND TAHT WOULD BE THAT.

SO GO RIGHT AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR LITTLE ASS HOLE DIG'S ALL YOU WANT, IT ONLY CONFIRMS WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW AND HOW YOUR TRYING TO COVER THAT UP BY PUTTING OTHERS DOWN.

dg DA GEE WITCH WAY DID THEY GO GEORGE WITCH WAY DID THEY GO.

lIKE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY MEANS DICK. YOU SURE DO THINK OF YOURSELF, DON'T YOU ? tO THINK i WOULD GIVE YOU OR WHAT YOU THINK THE TWO SHITS WORTH IT CIMES UP SHORT OF ANY VALUE IN THE FIRST PLACE .

sO FUCK OFF! oH KNOW THERE GOES THOUGHS 4 LETTER WORD AGAIN.
Well you know us unimacatom tyep wenens gotstos workens withins whatwea havins cus awes don'ts haavs peopleslikens you arounds to hep-en us outs wits thowas biggy word youern kind usssea

Hopa you can stlla meks out wahtsa weeren trrita say to2s uen.

so kiss my ass and before you go giveing and more advise you might want to try and seek some help about that little dick in your mouth problem. It sure makes it hard to understand what you trying to say that way.
Hey but that never stoped you before so why start now right?

Some poeple just like DICK don't they I don't understand why myself but as you said not everyone can at the top of tehere class when it comes to dick in the mouth andEnunciating there word so they get understood like you. You sure are good at that huh?
Boy it must be a proud time for your family what they get the chance to see how you have become such an expert at being a DICK ,just like they always new you would . keep up the good work your doing great and for such a good job theirs will be a extra dick in your mouth at the end of the month so enjoy and thanks again for a job well done we couldn’t have gotten here without you .

Ass-hole!
I hear this will be your next move up the latter of SUCK -CESS all just one hung rung at a time that must be you secret right ?

Well good luck & hope you get everything you have cuming to you because if anyone should it ‘s you

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laughing lots said...

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KYHOOYA said...

HEY PAULIGIRL

How about you tell me why the paid to the order stamp it not done prior to you signing in stead they do it after the fact and don't say aword about ?

Do you think that is what a business dose that is being truthful & up front

Do you think that when you are involved in what amounts to the biggerst transaction for most people in a life time they should hav to get a degeree in finacing to be able to fallow the hole thing not to think that they will be able to stop all the bad dealings even with that . is that what you see this as being a fair and rightouse deal .

do you think that when ther is many clouds of untold events that involve your money and future that someone should be able to have control ovber how it can turn and how they can change it so it makes them more money withoiut it showing to you ?

Tell me why it is that the broker needs the apprasel you paid from your pocket to be signed over to them.?

why not just have it transfered once instead would'nt that make more sence than going to the middle man (whom O might add if you take your right to shop them and then find someone else to go with wilol throw a fit and truy to charge you some made up fee and hole you time sensetive doc' or delay its return) 90 day I think in most casees when you think about it and see that 30 day to close at best case anda below average time line at that then say you looked around for 30 days and then the prick could take 30 day gettinng it backto you. OH would you look at that times up and you newed to go throught the steps to get it updated or what ever the case may be needed . seems like the transfer is nothing more than an unneeded step to give yet more hole over you in this transaction ythat again is the biggest that most take on and have little or no real understanding of and the industry dise everything it can to keep it that way don't you think or am I missing something here please inlighten me if that is the case I would love to hear it.All in all I speelk from personel dealing or first hand knowlage of these acts and plenty more that screm that the industry is in need of big change and that can be some great effort to stop that when your talking about the kinda money and control that this one has they will not let that happen without fighting it.

my thoughts oon the matter please don't post back the same crap that show only that someones is here to divert from the truthand not to get at it as i'am it's just not worth the time towaste on any of that in theday


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