Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Panama Gets It (10/31/06)

The Panamanian government after watching the DVD has refused to extradite Mr. Julian. It became clear to them that there was no intent to defraud but a sincere belief that there was an injustice being addressed. They certainly don’t see the big picture but the surface was enough. Of course this government didn’t have a vested interest in being a patsy for the banker cartel. I wonder what they saw that you’re not seeing. Oh yeah you’re not watching it because it might corrupt your adolescent sense of justice. Thank you Panama it is nice to know government and common sense are not mutually exclusive.

43 comments:

mogel said...

Justice666: Hah!!!!!!!!!!
So that blows your theory of continuing the court date to wait for Bill Julian.

Won't be happening now!!!!!!

Imagine that? I beat Tycob to be the first post.

tcob247 said...

not by much


BTW

I love Panama

justice77777777 said...
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justice77777777 said...

Moogie, if you believe this, you are now a certifiable nut case, just as Kurt has already proven himself to be.

How many of Kurt's timelines, prophecy's, dreams, hopes, desires, and preemonitions have come to be true?

When was this originally supposed to be over, June? Then, August???

Please lay off of the kool-aid, as it's now time to start consuming egg-nog.

TwinGift94 said...

If any of you dumb asses have ever been in litigation or even in a court of law. Timelines are always being adjusted, extended, cancelled for reason or no reason.

Let things play out.

kaz4541 said...

Well, I think its been about a year and 8 months since i got into this program...

justice77777777 said...

TwinGift94 said...
If any of you dumb asses have ever been in litigation or even in a court of law. Timelines are always being adjusted, extended, cancelled for reason or no reason.

On the contrary, "dumb ass", how many timelines have came and went PRIOR to anyone ever being arrested? So go crawl back in your hole.

tcob247 said...

I'm wondering how Kurt got this info that the Panama Govt watched his dvd and are now not extradicting Julian

Anybody else find out this info anywhere?

TwinGift94 said...

to justice77777777

yeah yeah yeah......

so your the expert who is the master of reason and truth.

your a waste. keeping blowing hot air. Now take a deep breath and blow it out your ear.

We will see how things play out.

I am very patient and quite optimistic.

Go ahead now and call me names and a 'certifiable nut case'. Now come on, don't let everyone down.

Gforce said...

--------Where can I obtain said DVD? Credible persons please respond.

Elmer Fudd said...

Didn't panama hide in their banking system millons of dollars of drug profit money? I might be wrong, but if i'm right what makes them honest and trustworthy?

justice77777777 said...

TwinGift94 said...
to justice77777777
Go ahead now and call me names and a 'certifiable nut case'. Now come on, don't let everyone down.


You are the ones that are calling people names (dumb asses), so you may want to get some tests run for bi-polar disorder.

whatdoyoumean said...

Elmer,

It's a good thing we live in the good ol USA were our government would never do anything like hide money or use drug money, or any other underhanded things.

Too bad now my faith in governments is dashed.

mogel said...

Tycob asked: "I'm wondering how Kurt got this info that the Panama Govt watched his dvd and are now not extradicting Julian".
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Just guessing, I would say Bill Julian gave his captors a copy of the DVD for their viewing pleasure. Sounds like they were pleased with what they saw.

Maybe after Bill finding out that he wasn't going to be extradited, he contacted someone & the word got back.

Gforce said...

---"Debt free in a nine month period." www.kimclement.com --click Prophecy in the News --click National Prophecies --click Nov. 2, 2006 ------Also wind in AZ and a earthquake in the Grand Canyon.

mogel said...

Twingift said: "If any of you dumb asses have ever been in litigation or even in a court of law. Timelines are always being adjusted, extended, cancelled for reason or no reason.

Let things play out."
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I agree that the Dorean Group have been in litigation for NO REASON. That's why they are entitled to huge damages.

As for "letting things play out," I would say that all of us have been waiting for 18 months or longer to let things play out. Some clients have been waiting for almost 3 years for the settlement of their mortgage or some sort of resolution.

How long are you suggesting is a reasonable time to wait? And before you answer that question, how long is a reasonable time for a speedy trial in light of the so called complexity of this case?

You can even disregard the law when you answer that question if you like, since we are only interested in a reasonable amount of time that you think is appropriate for a resolution, assuming a reasonable standared.

tcob247 said...

Mogel....

Just guessing.....

Maybe......

Did he contact you?

What have you heard?

Are you just speculating too?

mogel said...

Justice said: "On the contrary, "dumb ass", how many timelines have came and went PRIOR to anyone ever being arrested? So go crawl back in your hole."
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I agree with you too! The government, court & banks have been dead set on doing whatever they could in crushing all of the hopeful time lines of success that were vocalized in the past. That way, it looks like the process won't & can't work. Excellent point.

mogel said...

G Force said: "Where can I obtain said DVD? Credible persons please respond."
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Contact Dr. Fred. They have been advertised for some time now on this blog ever since they came out & even prior to that & the address to send payment to in order to receive these has been posted at least 3 or more times on this blog already, so maybe that tells me that you haven't been keeping up with all of the posts. The price has changed several times, so make sure you are purchasing them for what they are selling for now.

The DVD's have been recommended for all to buy whether you are a naysayer or a supporter of the process & are recommended for your further education.

Alot of effort, thought, & time went into the production of these & you can even see who some of the major players and experts on this subject are and what they look like speaking.

If you haven't viewed these DVD's, and your faith in the process isn't as strong as Scott & Kurt's, or has vascillated over time, than, you haven't done everything you can to understand all of the issues.

I know you are a faithful supporter though, but for those others that continually criticize the Dorean Group and haven't listened to the DVD's, just shows me that some people just choose to be closed minded or are too cheap with their time & money to investigate all the issues before they open their mouth with judgments and criticisms.

justice77777777 said...

mogel said...
are too cheap with their time & money ....

Hmmmm, if my memory serves me correct from the ole' psites forum, moogie, doesn't this trait belong to you as well?

Didn't you send your potential clients to other brokers' presentations and tell them to contact you after for a cheaper price? Seems to me you were too cheap and lazy with your time and money.....

Gforce said...

-------Thanks Mogel---I actually did order them during the "Early Bird Special" about a year ago. I just have not recieved them yet. I know this is good news to some, and will provide deep intellectual debate for others. I will email Dr. Fred at drhfred@excite.com and try to remedy the situation. --thanks again

Elmer Fudd said...

whatdoyoumean said...
Elmer,

It's a good thing we live in the good ol USA were our government would never do anything like hide money or use drug money, or any other underhanded things.

Too bad now my faith in governments is dashed.



I know our goverment is corrupt, but i was speaking in reference to panama. There alwayls looking for some kind of score "Payoff"..Capice

oksurewhynot said...

gForce said:
I actually did order them during the "Early Bird Special" about a year ago. I just have not recieved them yet.

WELL, IF gFORCE HASN"T RECEIVED THE DVD YET, HOW CAN JULIAN HAVE IT TO SHOW IN PANAMA????

If Panama refuses to extradite Julian, you can be sure it's for some reason other than watching a DVD that none of us understand, let alone a foreign government.

~~The Swami~~~ said...

It does appear the walls of deception the nay sayers have worked so long and hard to build up are tumbling down faster than gravity itself. When you choose the side of crooked, deceiving bankers...............YOU LOSE!!!!! Kurt, the truth shall set you free my brother!!!!!!!!!!!

Stay tuned for more bricks to fall...............

oksurewhynot said...

gForce said:
I actually did order them during the "Early Bird Special" about a year ago. I just have not recieved them yet.

WELL, IF gFORCE HASN"T RECEIVED THE DVD YET, HOW CAN JULIAN HAVE IT TO SHOW IN PANAMA????

mogel said...

Elmer said: "I know our goverment is corrupt, but i was speaking in reference to panama. There alwayls looking for some kind of score "Payoff"..Capice
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Bob Barker said the price wasn't right. So how much is Bill Julian worth, would you say? Are you suggesting that Bill Julian is a hostage and won't be free from the Panamanian authorities anytime soon?

mogel said...

Oksurewhynot said: "WELL, IF gFORCE HASN"T RECEIVED THE DVD YET, HOW CAN JULIAN HAVE IT TO SHOW IN PANAMA????"
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It's probably an oversight that gforce didn't receive the product timely. Many people have already viewed the DVD's.

mogel said...

Justice777: Please forgive me for not choosing a better choice of words on my part. The answer to your question is "yes", "yes", and "yes", but you already knew the answer, so why ask the question? I'll work on my grotesqueness if you work on yours.

son of a prophet said...

LOL!




"It's a good thing we live in the good ol USA were our government would never do anything like hide money or use drug money, or any other underhanded things."



be carful! guv cant get you the legal way, the will send CIA agents to make a "renditon" of you and transport you to foreign counrty and do torture on you!


they will come get you in the middle of the night when you sleping.

son of a prophet said...

btw, hire some good panamamian security agents who not on CIA payroll to potect you while you watch you DVD.

when CIA agent come to get you, take out you DVD and let him watch it too.

CAI agnets dont mak that much money, they will enjoy learning how to get they mortgatge paid off with the DG process.

tell them you will help with the papaerwork if they dont try to kidmap you out of pamana.

KYHOOYA said...

Justice7777

You don't know the first thing about the word "Justice" and with every post you show more & more that your intent here is nothing but that of someone that is working for the banks or Gov.

The time anyone spends in debate with you should only be for their pure entertainment or a good laugh at the context of your postings, This should be done with the upfront knowlage that this time is wasted complete.

You Sir, are a nothing more than a infection that grown out of control to the point of it gangrenes's state.

The only cure for your kind and it's growing infection on this country is nothing less than to amputate!

It's not all bad news for you though. They say the recovery rate after this kind of procedure is better than 50% but this is only achieved by some who are willing to give their all in rehab to learning there could be something out there for then other than a life of working for those that are stealing the very foundation of this country apart and all for what? I would'nt expected you to try and answer that, How could you in the state of mind you display here.

Open your mind and try and learn something new every day. You don't have to agree with everything that someone says to get sone good from it.
Or are you that special that you know everything?

That if true than there is know chance that you might be wrong, know chance at all, ya okay doky then.

It's always nice to see when someone can has the vision to look past the b.s. and get the heart of the message.

If you think for one second that locking up someone almost 2 years with still know trial date in sight, have been taken from your everyday life and held in limbo well you watch as the people that you started to help are getting stomped on as the courts set you up so that you can not make a move to do a thing other wise they will hve a real charge aganst you for the restaining order in place to prevent your from doing a thing with any of the clients in the civil case and that not only is it a show of a court that is bent on calling this and you a "Internet scam".
If you think this is the way all should be treated in this countries court system and that jst because you or some judge have a personal feeling about this they should be let to side step the law in it's full acordence and disregaurd of some one rights and liberties.
I mean come on a few delays in a civil trial maybe but in a criminal case?

No way can anyone look at this and be fare For say that the time alone is out rages and the whole system is noy being fare.

show me where there is law that backs up the incarseration of someone for this time and is done with all good intent? good luck on that one!

justice77777777 said...

KYHOOYA said...
Justice7777

You don't know the first thing about the word "Justice" and with every post you show more & more that your intent here is nothing but that of someone that is working for the banks or Gov.

KYHOOYA,

With every post you show more & more your need to learn the speak, spell, and write the english language.

Here are some links to help:

1. www.dictionary.com/wordoftheday
This link will get you emailed a word a day with meaning, how to pronounce, spelling.

2. www.hookedonphonics.com
Program opens up the world of reading to children, by their using letters and sounds to make words. Discover learning programs in math and reading for children.

Do eveyone here a favor and enroll and SUCCESSFULLY complete number (2) two at least before you post again.

tcob247 said...

Actually this time he did a great job of spelling

The post actually made sense to me

Thanks Kahooya

tcob247 said...

well.......

except for this

"No way can anyone look at this and be fare For say that the time alone is out rages and the whole system is noy being fare."

LOL

justice77777777 said...

~~The Swami~~~ said...

Stay tuned for more bricks to fall...............


Hopefully, the bricks fall after hitting you in the head and spilling the rest of the kool-aid.

papa_dont_preach said...

Hey justice, the swami's a good guy and means no one any harm.

BTW (question in general, not for you specifically), is Complainers Suck still around?

~~The Swami~~~ said...

justice77777777 said...

Hopefully, the bricks fall after hitting you in the head and spilling the rest of the kool-aid.




TWO WORDS:

Anger Management

justice77777777 said...

~~The Swami~~~ said...
justice77777777 said...
TWO WORDS:

Anger Management

Here's my TWO WORDS:

KY JELLY

Elmer Fudd said...

mogel said...
Elmer said: "I know our goverment is corrupt, but i was speaking in reference to panama. There alwayls looking for some kind of score "Payoff"..Capice
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Bob Barker said the price wasn't right. So how much is Bill Julian worth, would you say? Are you suggesting that Bill Julian is a hostage and won't be free from the Panamanian authorities anytime soon?


Wouldn't put it past them. I don't think they would be in it for any good and wholesome reason, don't ya think.

Elmer Fudd said...

Hey Mogel, i'm curious how long of a wait or do you intend to wait to see what comes of all this? What i mean is if they both head to jail and the dorean theory gets squashed which, i'm not saying it will. How much will be enough? Just a question.

mogel said...

Elmer Fudd said...
Hey Mogel, i'm curious how long of a wait or do you intend to wait to see what comes of all this? What i mean is if they both head to jail and the dorean theory gets squashed which, i'm not saying it will. How much will be enough? Just a question.
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When I believe that the banks have disclosed honestly 100% & when I believe I was wrong that the task was too great or not worth the fight. Course, I'm not saying either, that I believe that will ever happen that I would come to that conclusion. I can't answer a rhetorical question when I can't say for certain how I'll feel in the future. I still remain positive, upbeat, and firm, despite everything that could be construed as negative, dangerous, or harmful.

As long as they the lenders have an achilles heel, it can be penetrated, one way or another & they can be made to pay, one way or another. I'm not willing to accept defeat, just because I was beat up many times. Giving up is a quitters mentality. There's always a way....even if I don't always see or understand the solution or the complete picture. Again, it's a "faith issue".

You're question reminds me of a movie where a mother had her child kidnapped and everyone around her told her to give up after extreme disappointments and get on with her life after 2 years of no success finding her child. The same question was asked to her: "When is enough, ENOUGH". She responded by angrily saying: "enough is enough, when I SAY IT IS ENOUGH, and nobody else."

"Enough" shouldn't be dictated by what others think, namely a corrupt court, or the majority of people who say that they are looking after your best interest, or the majority of people that say it can't be done because you're told that you don't have the power or authority to get things done.

turboboy said...

the thing that gets me about these nah sayers is,they act like this stuff thats being done to kurt and scott is right and that they deserve it...that shows their true colors.this stuff that they are going thru is par for the course when dealing with as corrput a government as we have..they have themselves so intertwined with money grubbers its not funny..they say bend over the gov says tell me when your done...the court case will take as long as it takes.but honestly,how much evidence can they try and surrpess,without impuning the rights to defend oneself..they won't gamble with this going to court,becuase if they find that what kurt and scott did is exactly the same thing as the mortgage industry has been doing for years,and they find tham guilty then the whole industry will be guilty.talk about you litigation!! the sleepers in this country [the sheep] will wake up all of a sudden and things will go into to caos..thats why bush made it possible to enact martial without approval..we will be beat down by our own military!!! man then for sure gods coming...get yourself ready!!!..me i'm with the boys.they are fighting goliath and i think they are smart enough to win...

Illusions No More said...

Kurt,

Been with you since 2004. Keep on keepin' on. I enjoyed lunch with your father at the Olive Garden November 3rd.

You will prevail. It is that simple. When men get over throwing stones and enjoying pissing contests the truth will be heard.

Your perserverance is of great importance and you & Scott (he does not think so highly of me after our visit outside DG office about 25 months ago) are most appreciated.