Monday, March 19, 2007

The Purple Heart (02-03-07)

The time has come to advance upon the enemy. Those of you who are about the kingdom of God here is your call to duty. I selected this symbolic title because the pains of war can bruise our heart purple and because it is an award of valor to those who have suffered. Lets not make our suffering vanity. The call to arms should be responded to in the reverent prayer of faith. Grab your weapon, take your post and act as though the entire outcome hinges on your faithfulness. This is also the time now for me to honor my wife before you. We were only married 6 weeks prior to my arrest. No newlywed would imagine the life she was called to. Unlike the quitters of this world she heard her call to arms and with utmost fidelity and faithfulness to her post as the perfect helpmate. This has not been painless or without great sacrifice personally. My heart has been severely bruised by her pain and many tears have not yet cleansed us of our pain. As a man and a husband I wish all of you to find a treasure as I have. I know in your suffering many of you have discovered how cheap you were valued by your partners who for the comforts of this world discarded you or worse yet threatened to and stayed. Know there are some who love God, His ways, and truth more than life itself. I had suffered cheap love twice now and there is no comparison. This love creates a devotion that encourages me to obtain greatness as an honor to her because she deserves that. Sure God could give me the strength to finish alone but she has remained faithful to that which she was entrusted with and my battle is easier for it.

I have honored you likewise for this battle is spiritual warfare far bigger than the agenda of two men or your personal desires. The time has come to release the documentary. It has fallen to our hands to make it a success. We must move it through a grassroots, word-of-mouth, sphere of influence method as a group of warriors. Line yourselves up with my wife who has more than proven herself honorable and make an impact. Line up showings at local theaters, local community centers, hand out flyers, talk with radio hosts, post op-ed pieces in your paper, etc. Have showings in hotels, get people exposed to the information and talking about it. This may be the very vehicle that God uses to bring you victory. Donate marketing funds or have fundraisers for its distribution. Do not let me limit your creativity. Get in the fight as though success pivots on your efforts and God will honor your faith and valor. He will bless the work of your hands. Included here is how to place yourself on a list of volunteers. Send email to mortgagedocumentary@gmail.com and include any special skills you are offering. Work as an organized cohesive group with one goal of victory. I thank you in advance and am honored by your faithfulness to God and His truth. Let us attack the enemy’s best weapon of ignorance with all our might. Do not be afraid for our weapons are not carnal but spiritual. I have not seen this movie but know how professionally it was done, and designed to inform and empower. I have heard it from good sources that it is very provocative. No matter what happens to Scott and I you are now empowered to write your own history.

Let me close with this blessing “Lord of heaven the time has come to free your people bless now the hands and the plow. Enlist all your agents and open the doors no one can shut. Overwhelm the reluctance of this world with your blessing. Send prosperity to all our homes and fill our baskets with abundance. Let us deliver your salvation and offer you praise for your loving kindness and powerful victory. We pray against the thickets and shout “Grace, Grace” to your blessing. Let our eyes see your goodness in the land of the living. Amen.” Now is the time procrastination and apathy equal defeat!

17 comments:

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Stillwaiting said...

sink sink socks....
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tcob247 said...

"Line up showings at local theaters, local community centers, hand out flyers, talk with radio hosts, post op-ed pieces in your paper, etc. Have showings in hotels, get people exposed to the information and talking about it."

Here is your big chance Kahooya, neartheend, Mogel, Imbigo etc etc
All you BIG Kurt supporters

Now you are done with all your talk
It is time for action
Your leader has called you out
Will you respond?
Or will you just sit here and spout off?

Yetter said...

Notarial Dissent and tcob247, King George 3rd would be proud of you. He and his aristocratic friends laughed at America's quaint experiment with self goverment. To them it was unthinkable that common people were enlightened enough to rule themselves. Today that experiment is the envy of a world where people in fewer than 100 countries live under a democrtic goverment.Yet here in the USA, old King George may yet be right.Today American's expect goverment to care for us the way a benevolent king cares for his subjects.We treat people as members of groups rather as individuals, devolping into the very class system against the founders rebelled.American's are voluntarily surrendering the very freedoms that millions fought and died to establish and protect. After 225 years of history, the American experiment is DYING at the hands of its OWN people.Many of the abuses that led to our rebellion from the British in 1776 are similar to our own goverment's excesses. The Decleration of of Independence listed a host of grievances against the King that are all too familiar today.The authors accused the King of refusing HIS ASSENT OF LAWS, necessary for the public good, of forbidding locals to pass laws OF IMMEDIATE AND PRESSING IMPORTANCE, even of dissolving local representative bodies. How different is that from today's supreme federal system that routinely over rides local and state laws,especially by FEDERAL SYSTEM COURT ORDERS and "constitutional" rulings based on premises not in the consitution? The Crown had OBSTRUCTED THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BY CONTROLLING JUDGES TENURE AND SALARIES,TODAY'S GOVERMENT DOES SO BY EMPOWERING JUDGES TO USURP LEGISLATIVE POWERS, TO MAKE UP NEW LAWS RATHER THAN INTERRET LAWS PASSED BY THE PEOPLES REPRESENTATIVES.IT IS A MORE MODERN TECHNIQUE, BUT WITH THE SAME ANTI DEMOCRATIC RESULT.King George had created a multitude of new offices, and sent swarms of officers to harass the people and eat of their substance. In 2007 the govt has more than 4 million employees and costs taxpayers near 3 trillion dollars a year. The King combined with others to subject us to a juristiction foreign to our consitution, much as as modern leaders compromise our sovereignty to institutions like the UN, International courts and foreign trade commissions. The founders said govt should protect private property, but todays Supreme Court lets goverment take private property and sell to developers, take away the value of land by denying the right to use it and force landowners to give their land for endangered species habitat, parks, trails and open space. The first "inalienable right" in our declaration was the right to life, but todays courts prohibit states from protecting it.If we believe "all men are created equal", how can we justify racial preferences in school admission, goverment contracts and congrssional reapportionment?Freedom of speech of speech is central to the Bill of Rights, but congressmen now deny that right to those want to speak about them, or other candidates, like politically correct thought police."The policy of the federal govt,"wrote President Jefferson, "is to leave her citizens free, neither aiding nor restraining them in their pursuits".today we are not allowed to plan retirement, design our own health insurance or even our chidrens education. The endless intrusion reaches every aspect of our lives from where we can hike to how to cook our hamburgers. Both parties fist look to govt to answer all problems. Republicans propose to solve illegal immigration by hiring 30,000 new federal employees.Unlike our colonial ancestors,contemporary Americans voluntarily agreed to all of this with their vote. We have been warned frquently to be alert. In 1835 Tocqueville wrote,"the American Republic will endure untill the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the publics money."Sadly that day has long since come and gone.Thank you Kurt and Scott, Gods speed,peace and love be with you.

Yetter said...

Notarial Dissent and tcob247, King George 3rd would be proud of you. He and his aristocratic friends laughed at America's quaint experiment with self goverment. To them it was unthinkable that common people were enlightened enough to rule themselves. Today that experiment is the envy of a world where people in fewer than 100 countries live under a democrtic goverment.Yet here in the USA, old King George may yet be right.Today American's expect goverment to care for us the way a benevolent king cares for his subjects.We treat people as members of groups rather as individuals, devolping into the very class system against the founders rebelled.American's are voluntarily surrendering the very freedoms that millions fought and died to establish and protect. After 225 years of history, the American experiment is DYING at the hands of its OWN people.Many of the abuses that led to our rebellion from the British in 1776 are similar to our own goverment's excesses. The Decleration of of Independence listed a host of grievances against the King that are all too familiar today.The authors accused the King of refusing HIS ASSENT OF LAWS, necessary for the public good, of forbidding locals to pass laws OF IMMEDIATE AND PRESSING IMPORTANCE, even of dissolving local representative bodies. How different is that from today's supreme federal system that routinely over rides local and state laws,especially by FEDERAL SYSTEM COURT ORDERS and "constitutional" rulings based on premises not in the consitution? The Crown had OBSTRUCTED THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BY CONTROLLING JUDGES TENURE AND SALARIES,TODAY'S GOVERMENT DOES SO BY EMPOWERING JUDGES TO USURP LEGISLATIVE POWERS, TO MAKE UP NEW LAWS RATHER THAN INTERRET LAWS PASSED BY THE PEOPLES REPRESENTATIVES.IT IS A MORE MODERN TECHNIQUE, BUT WITH THE SAME ANTI DEMOCRATIC RESULT.King George had created a multitude of new offices, and sent swarms of officers to harass the people and eat of their substance. In 2007 the govt has more than 4 million employees and costs taxpayers near 3 trillion dollars a year. The King combined with others to subject us to a juristiction foreign to our consitution, much as as modern leaders compromise our sovereignty to institutions like the UN, International courts and foreign trade commissions. The founders said govt should protect private property, but todays Supreme Court lets goverment take private property and sell to developers, take away the value of land by denying the right to use it and force landowners to give their land for endangered species habitat, parks, trails and open space. The first "inalienable right" in our declaration was the right to life, but todays courts prohibit states from protecting it.If we believe "all men are created equal", how can we justify racial preferences in school admission, goverment contracts and congrssional reapportionment?Freedom of speech of speech is central to the Bill of Rights, but congressmen now deny that right to those want to speak about them, or other candidates, like politically correct thought police."The policy of the federal govt,"wrote President Jefferson, "is to leave her citizens free, neither aiding nor restraining them in their pursuits".today we are not allowed to plan retirement, design our own health insurance or even our chidrens education. The endless intrusion reaches every aspect of our lives from where we can hike to how to cook our hamburgers. Both parties fist look to govt to answer all problems. Republicans propose to solve illegal immigration by hiring 30,000 new federal employees.Unlike our colonial ancestors,contemporary Americans voluntarily agreed to all of this with their vote. We have been warned frquently to be alert. In 1835 Tocqueville wrote,"the American Republic will endure untill the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the publics money."Sadly that day has long since come and gone.Thank you Kurt and Scott, Gods speed,peace and love be with you.

tcob247 said...

yetter...

I totally agree with your assesment of the US govt.

But how does that relate to Kurt and Scott?

Are you going to be doing this for them?

""Line up showings at local theaters, local community centers, hand out flyers, talk with radio hosts, post op-ed pieces in your paper, etc. Have showings in hotels, get people exposed to the information and talking about it."


Or are you just one of those who likes to spout off?

son of a prophet said...

is the "mortgage documentary" the the mortg elim DVDs???

KYHOOYA said...

tcob247 said...
"Line up showings at local theaters, local community centers, hand out flyers, talk with radio hosts, post op-ed pieces in your paper, etc. Have showings in hotels, get people exposed to the information and talking about it."

Here is your big chance Kahooya, neartheend, Mogel, Imbigo etc etc
All you BIG Kurt supporters

Now you are done with all your talk
It is time for action
Your leader has called you out
Will you respond?
Or will you just sit here and spout off?

5:16 PM

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You really are just an egotistical backseat shit disturber, who has'nt had or done one thing in your life that you can say was your idea. From the way you act on this blog one could only beleive that you spent the better part of your life either antagonizing
others for things you wished you would have done.

To sit there an fine fault with someone scrach that let's I meant everyone else because your lacking the courage or foreward thinking to come up with one by yourself is what makes you such a fool.

Someone like you is exactly what the bankers and the Gov't want in in this country so they can carry on doing what they want without any worry about being found out for their crooked dealings. It makes them sleep well knowing there are people like you out there RTin Cup you play their game by the rule's they give you and never question the rights or wrongs about them if something dos'nt look right.

One can only determine by the things you say that you got involved in this program for one thing only that being greed and you carried out that with the sloppiness that I'm sure carries through in most of yor lifes work. Now that it did'nt go just how you thought it should and you did'nt get that house title with just the lazy stroke of your pen that wrote that check your plaing the same game you always have your going to sit there and put down anything and everyone that seem's like they might make some step forward or it might look as if someone might get something your won't.
What a little man you are Tinny Boy you must have been so disapointed when you found out santa was'nt come to your house any more. I have to bet you ran right out and told every other kid you saw that that he was'nt real just so they wer'nt having or feeling anything you did'nt have I Right about that I'm 99% sure of as I sure you spoil most everything for most around you if you don't get to have it to.


So I'll end with answering your question about weather I'm going to get on the list.

That woulsd be yes I'm

You see I will take any opportunity givin to try and show that the bankers and the Gov't are not being fair in the the way they are doing business and it is at the cost of many honest people out there.
iF ONLY THAT IT BRINGS TO LIGHT THE TOPIC NOY BECAUSE I AM GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF IT .
As I have said before there is nothing here fopr me to gain I am here because I think that the system that is in play is wrong and that there are many that are on the side of the bankers that take full advantage of this and the fact that the Gov't don't do jake to stop them. They make only little (throw the dog a bone) act's that do nothing to hekp the people they only cover their behinds as much as needed.

Then theres you who act much in the same way I sure if this were to come to the point were there was some payoff in value to you that the screen door would'nt have a chance to hit you in the ass because of how fast you would out it and on your way to coolect.

You say all you want like "your leader " or "follower" and think waht you want but the facts are clear as to what kind of person you are. Oh and one more thing you should hang your head low if you ever think to use the fact that your kid is in the service of this country as some kind of showing that your any kinda MAN cause your not. Thats about it You can go back to your sideshow sitting blatherring and put downs so you might feel better at the lacking you choose to call your day to day life.

Just don't think for one second that what you have to say in anyway is a force that makes me do anything I otherwise would'nt cuzz people like you are nothing more than a tic on the butt of the dog we call America to be scrach off or better to be left to find out for them selfs that sometime when you think you have made it to the top you find out to late that you made it there but you just went past that flea collar the Gov't put just in case you did so SEE ya!
Try not to crock on the in side we just have the carpets cleaned.

tic tock you mindless fool !

l8r

mogel said...

It is a fact that the prosecution/court/government officials have violated the Speedy Trial Amendment to give the Dorean Group a speedy trial, which is a violation of due process. There are many other violations committed, but only one violation is needed to overturn any judgment against the Dorean Group since their "due process" rights has been violated, so any trial is just a waste of time for the Federal government.
There is enough ammunition & court cases here to justify what I am saying that enables the Dorean Group to attack at any time any judgment of guilty by the Federal Court & render it void should it happen down the road:

www.paperadvantage.org/
attacking voidjudgment.html

A judgment is void, and therefore subject to relief under Rule 60(b)(4), only if the court that rendered judgment lacked jurisdiction or in circumstances in which the court's action amounts to a PLAIN USURPATION OF POWER CONSTITUTING A VIOLATION OF DUE PROCESS. United States v. Boch Oldsmobile, Inc., 909 F.2d 657, 661 (1st Cir. 1990)

mogel said...

If your mortgage is cancelled or forgiven in certain circumstances, there is no taxes to pay according to a new law in 2005:

http://www.theorator.com/bills109/hr3458.html

near the end said...

tcob247; Well you just said you agree with yetter about what the government is doing; is wrong so I guess you are for Kurt and Scott.

I'm glad you finally came around.

neodemes said...

Would someone please pass the popcorn?

notarial dissent said...

Moogs,
The gov’t has violated the speedy trial rule how?? It would appear to me that they have bent over backwards to not rush the dim duo, who have done nothing but obstruct the steps toward trial, and are even at this date spending more time filing useless motions than getting ready to go trial. Speedy Trial only comes in to play if the gov’t does not take actions to go to trial, that has not been the case here, the majority of delay has been due to dim and dimmer refusing to either cooperate with appointed counsel or else prepare for trial, and of late refusing to accept the trial documents they are entitled to and require to prepare. This of course from Moogey the legal expert who has been repeatedly proven wrong about so many other things along the way.

Quote Moogie If your mortgage is cancelled or forgiven in certain circumstances, there is (are) no taxes to pay according to a new law in 2005:

As usual Moogs you are a day late and several fries short of a happy meal. H. R. 3458 the Mortgage Cancellation Relief Act of 2005 was introduced, and died in 2005, it never was enacted so good luck avoiding those taxes.

KYHOOYA said...

mogel said...
If your mortgage is cancelled or forgiven in certain circumstances, there is no taxes to pay according to a new law in 2005:

http://www.theorator.com/bills109/hr3458.html

5:19 PM

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Now that's mighty interesting isn't it.I have to wonder why the Gov't would pass such a new law for only a few cases of this happening in the past, as we all have been shown by the bankers aggeresive stand when it comes to their beloved interest paying land tenents they give nothing up.
So why would this law be needed if not due to the fact that many not a few were given their title back and the tax code needed to be adderessed sothat any and more so as in incressing number of properties that have had this question .

It would be a know brainer to think that anyone givin their title and or their loan forgivin and such would ask the IRS asz to how they were to claim the now added income or investment income payment for that year I would think it could be as 1. would this fall under investment income or 2. could it be decaired under retirment income and then divert the taxes due if reinvested by a time set. 3. or is it to be paied all in one year or could it be something like dep. over a set amount of years.

These being all good questions I would think that ones in the need of would have asked the IRS it being not the NORMAL thing in all that the bankers would be GIVING UP ANYTHING TO THEIR CUSTOMER LET ALONE GIVING THEM A LARGE AMOUNT THAT THE HOUSING BOOM WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IN THE PAST 5 YEARS.

We have to have the understanding that only one or even a hand full of these would not be enough to get the lawmakers to go through what is no quick and easy amount of work it would have been much less effort for them to just have you put under misc. and that would be that.

So how far of a leap is it to have the mind that there is a growing number of people and or their tax acct. that are having this question and the lawmakers see it as something that will be on the incline rather then decline.
Interesting to say the least.

Oh just to add this as I know that there will be the standard few that will say things like it must be because of the housing bust and that the properties that are in question are of no good to the banks as in there a loss to them .
I could only offer this as some idea of how that is more not the case than is

1 The house that would be a loss would not fall into a gain of income there for would not be a question as to paying any tax on it.
2. the fact that even with a hosing market as noted to days news that in detroit there were homes that were foreclosed and sold for less than a car as in 13k down to 7k and the bank still foreflosed and went through the so very costly process it incures or at least that is what they say when their is EQ to be had and they pad their cost for it. You know all the high interest they charged up front because they want to make sure they get thebulk before anything happens to loss it or there is my all time favorite they use to justify there greedy one way street of interest as " the is a fare amount to charge based ion what the same money would have earned over the same time"

I like it because know one ever brings up the fact that that moneys they say they would have made over that time was that without any chance of it maybe not and lossing instead cause trhe deal they got going now is a win win for them. even if we were to go along with their idea of them LENDING us their money in the first place it's a pretty good deal when you can do that and collect most of what you might have made on some other investments in that same time frame.

Just ask those who not just three years ago had their homes selling in the 500k range who whent at the action for $130k bet they wish that they could of had the same kinda "FOR SURE" deal the banks have lets see if the bank made a loan for $500k and got payments in on that at a standard 10 % that would have been in the 250k range they got in payment over that same time and then to auction it off for 130K $480K + upfront fees and loan costs I would say at the very least they seem to gat there money back even when it was to show as a loss on their books witch we all know would then be treated as a writeoff and then their is always that nice little Gov't secured thing and all of the rest of the nice blanket coverage that the bank's get to make sure that their is know loss for them that won't be turned into a gain when it's all added up.

Nice if you can get that kind of investment on your money but theonly one I know that has it is the crooks we call bankers and the Gov't that back them up so to cover their ass for all of the over spending and careless use of are taxes.

The thought that comes to mind when it comes to the Gov't spending and taxes to do t is the not so funny things they spend it on like how to keep better taps on what we do or how to control us better or wait did you see that !

Was that a camera on that street corner I just saw? Know it could'nt have been who would need a camera there in that town where it is listed by the FBI as one of the least crime cities in the country and has been without those all this time. Know it must have been that new free wirelesss Internet access their putting all around the city not a camera.
Then again I was able to get those driving directions the other day on windows live that let me get them in 3D view as close as 20 yards so you don't think that just because you don't get to see all of the fine details of what your buddy acros town is doing that they don't get to right? I mean they are the ones who PAID for it now arn't they!

You ask me Big Brother is getting a bit out of hand with the keeping an eye on us better we should go back to keeping an eye out for each other like it has been but they sure work that NEWS to there get the people thinking they have to have this or their not going to be safe don't they .
Think about it what is all that different today inthe regards of things that could happen to us wasthere some big sale on ray guns I missed or something because I think whan I look at the past to thepresent I see people that were scared into buying Bomb shelters and all that Gov't hype in the 50's and now what they want to get a little closer cause they don'y have as much info about what color underware you have on or what bob eat for dinner last night. Next thing they will be doing is taking samples of the sewer water and checking it to find if yoiu smoked some pot or not you know cut all that corp cost on drug testing and get they can just look it up on the Gov-net under that using that nice new gov't made to order law slipped in behind the funding for the new Orleans bill so they were sure that it would get a yes vote (cuzz who was going to vote that bill down after all the bad press going around then, my bet? not many if they wanted to stay in there lawmaker jobs that is) and that was the new you'll have to have one and can't do a thing without it and will make it so much more easyier for the Gov't to keep tabs on you in all areas of your life thas right you geuss it the RFID card that's Radio Freq I.D. as in your new drivers lic. or I.D. Green card, ect and will be linked to the first and largest country wide data base system that carries you records from credit to job to taxes to brith place and soc sec.# any record for jail or judgements, child supports payment. ect

It's nice to see that all that Gov't over spending isn't without something we all can use and be the better fore . or wait where is the benifit for us in that/ I must of missed that day when they went over the needs for this and how it was going to be good for me and most but I sure someone caught it so if you would'nt mind passing it on so I can understand why it was that it had to be SNEAKED on the tail end of the Katrina emergency funding Bill instead of a stand alone one that would get better seen by the people it would affect the most or was that just because thay thought they were saving use some money doing it that way

My bet ... ? well I sure you can fill that one in for yourself now can't you!

Yep Funny things we see going on and all for our protection isn't that nice of them but at my last count there were no less than 24 cameras from my house to the down town area where live and again I not to sure about that nice new service that is going up accross the city that was giving free wireless service to the net for any and all who wanted it . Just think that started out the same way as the canera did (as a test case do to the cost there would only be one or two placed in the areas where there was a big need for red light runners to stop cause there were to many injuries that happened as for the cameras ) now the free wirerless that I don'y no but the what started out as a free test case arsea in a one mile area down town business center went from test for two weeks to strting to put it up in three planed steps and should be city wide and completed by the end of next month. I guess the test went well I'm just not sure exatly what the test was cause me think that the city and the wireless company might make strange bed fellows being how the companies is coughing up a couple of free freq. for the city to use all for them selfs some how when I read that I just new that the test case was going to get a big green light with or without the people sheple whatever you ant to call the town folk I have to wonder just what that little system can do at full use You now pretty soon everything wll be just a NET Page away from Court to visist with grandma who needs to go anywhere right you all have that nice getting bigger everyday T.V. to watch and don't worry they willmake sure you gat plenty of REAL live to watch so you don't miss getting out and maybe doing that well ... FOR REAL ...

Look pa I think theres a storm tha should be a brewing and it's a big one. We better bring in the rains on them old horses ( good old boy up there in that white house and surounding areas make sure there doing the right thing before that twister gets out of hand and fucks things all up. them horses sometimes get lost when there 's a storm like this one then it's time to dig in for our selfs.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your self"

Not quit the same quote but close to what it might have been had he lived and made it till now

If you think them word as they were said ment for you to sit on your ass and wait for the Gov't to step up and take care of you and all your needs well you would be a bit off the mark on that thinking.
Try more like that man who had more of a view than we can hope to ever have on the way thing's were going then and one can only think they did'nt kill him because they did'nt like his wife or the suit he had on more so that they wer'nt to happy with the idea of his about he banking and that he might just be able to get us out from under the need fior the fed res, and all that debt that was being paid them. Or there is always that nice fluff new print that they gave up for all that the niy in the books depository with the shooting eye tha was able to make a shoot that only a few in the world could of put off and just had it in for on of the most popular pres. we had and to think there is not even a paintball of a thought from anyone with the asshole that we have now and he's oh so up on the rating now isn't he

Just some things that make me and hope you go HUMMMMMMM............

He was of themind that the peopel should start to do for them selfs because the gov't was not ment nor could it be in trusted to take care of all the peoples needs ..

Like was said by YETTER fact's ids that this country was founded on the concept of the people for the people asn in govern by the masses not be looked after as was the case with all other swith more of a dick er ship in the lead.
Sure has been a loog 8 years I for one am glad to seee him Oh I meant them go and a new starting chance coming only thing is whatwill we do with it make the start of some over cahges need to our system of gov't or will we wait in till it is forced on us to fight our way out from under. Now thats some REALITY FOR REAL NO NEED FOR T.V. FOR THIS ONE IT'S RIGHT IN YOUR FACE REAL.

bUT HEY THATS JUST MY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT FACT IS THE LIKLYHOOD OF MOST GETTING OFF THERE ASSES AND SEEING THE PROBLEM WITHOUT THERE BEING SOME HUGE KICK IN IT AND TROUBLE THAT AMOUNTS TO THIS COUNTRY BEING THROWN INTO HARD TIME FOR MOST AND A FIGHT OR BELOST IN IT WAY OF THINGS HAPPENINGIS SAD TO THINK THAT IT HAS TO COME TO THAT END BEFORE IT FIONDS IT'S WAY.

But with the amount to be lost or won it's not going to be some walk in the park you can bet on that with a far better return than any bankers getting on his loans today being the poayoff that I'm sure about .

but I would love to lose that bet and would gladly do so if it woiuld bring arount some change to this country and the people e choose to help run itfor us.

well taxes on homes that the bank have givin back or forgiven who would have thought some thing like thats would be seen just a few years back so I guess nything is or could happen given the right amout of presure to do it .

L8r

KYHOOYA said...

notarial dissent said...
Moogs,
The gov’t has violated the speedy trial rule how??
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Your insane! How can you not see it? The simple fact that the time of two year has past an there is not yet a firm date set yet for a trial is one thing that should start your obviously one-sided closed mind from out of no where you popped up thinking in that there might be something wrong.

The other things that might have someone who would be looking at this with an open mind and is that where is it written that once someone has been brought up on charges by grand jury no less that after there has been a trial date set and that being stretched out beyond what some would think needed but never the less where can you show me that the court has the right of delay for the add ion of other not noted defendants to this already set for trial fed. case?

Where and what law books are you reading from that say that the judge has the right to delay further a trial that has a date set and the charges drawn against those inedited by a grand jury so as to add any others that were not yet nor even mentioned in the charges given that the feds had over 13 months to bring charges on anyone that they had in mind weather they be in or out of the country

Tell me where you read that someone right to a speedy trial and due process aloud for those right 's to be put aside for the prosecution to go fishing for others that it has prior knowledge of their involvement at the time the charges place in front of the grand jury for their consideration and indictment?

Your pulling what ever you think you know out of the same air the bank pulls that paper money it print to loan our Gov't and the idea that you can sit there and try and make it seem as if the two in jail and their few presentment to the court have cause the delay of more than a year here and the 9 months in another state that have yet to answer for their hand in all of this out right show of disregard for any right of the defendants and there use of power that is at best in violation the letters used to bring charges in the fir place

To think that the FBI has been brought up dam near on charges for their miss use of the power of letter aloud for their sidestepping the normal right to privacy and the waivers of normal channels need to search and seize one properties. Being the their were more that 7000 letters that wee requested and were found by an audit of the record from the FBI to be a miss use of the letter and the power they were intended for under the patriot act.
Being how the two have been looked away for some time now and I sure limited to their flow of any real info that they have not seen the news and investigation that is on the doorstep of the FBI and has some in Congress asking for the head of the FBI to be fired not step down but fired for the missus use of these search warrants and again this being in the thousands range of issued letter under false charges so being how this was at it's highest of misuse and such right when our boys were inedited one would have to think that the issued warrants and there pretence could be at what a questionable level to say the least.

so again under what I have read in this case the few item like the site draft or the appointment of the jailer sheriff to be the lawyer do to his over use of privilege to delay their mail and other info that was needed by the two to mount an already lopsided defense and other act by said to cause them to be harmed it was the only thing that most would not have known to do and my hat goes off to Kurt for thinking of such an non-confrontational way of bring to light the fact that when someone has been put into a poison of power and guardianship or trustee over another as in the sheriff has in his job and the right and privileges that go with such a responsibility and when to take those and stretch ( and I use that term lightly) them to act in trustee and making chooses for the two as to what they can and can not receive or view and in so do could be causing hard to the defense as in the were self rep. in this case it is not so far off the mark in my eye s to see this person as taking on the responsibility of the two and their affairs now I could go on and present a much more detailed account of the who what & why's that go in to than the other item than were brought up before the court like the one that was regarding to the judge Mr. Alsup be of Raquel in this case do to his byes and all do to being named as a defendants in a civil case brought on by Kurt & Scott against him that not being enough there could be added and was the fact that surrounded the civil case were Alsup ruled against the Dorean group no less calling it a internet scam and fining their lawyer for even being there to represent them and whom he disallowed most of anything he had to present before the court and not only that but made it clear that any more time spent even one second would be the Addison of more fine and such so it was the lawyer best interest to step down and pay his already $71,000 in fine and fees to the banks lawyer that the judge had imposed on him

So that might be enough for me to present to the court that the judge that was selected to over see the trail was one that might not be of the mind to be fair in his rulings .



Don't you or is it that you would take the same as the judge did ands see no real cause for him to step down but then again in the name of justice s why wouldn’t he volunteer to do such and make it so the there was no doubt that the case was seen as fair right but nope that wasn’t going to happen with this judge the one again who is the def. in a civil case the two brought against him and the other fact that I have stated I know of not one person that could say that if someone were to name them in some kind of civil case weather it be true or not that that could not have an impact on the way they or My self included would thing and act in regards to the persons whom had done this. how could it not but that not how that court saw it and how much do you need to see it really but it shows the bothering carries far in the court system and one would think it would just even a little knowledge of how the police and partners work or any other group or club of persons and how they might act if there were some outside attack on one of them you would have to be of the mind that tall would rally around there friend and comrade as any club group or working co would naturally do. without having any one tell him he might want them to rule that way needed

For you or anyone who want to present anything that is of some great impact on the facts that surround this or anything other to do with the courts and the way the time issue has been handled in this case please do as it can only show your lacking in the case facts and the attempt by you to persuade anyone that might not be of the mind to have all of the facts or knowledge of how this has gone or others areas in the legal arena .
So please have at it but try and not insulate me with by your post in away that would make one think that I'm am any novices to the way's of the workings involves and especially in the in and out of the court and sheriff ties ok!

You would have to be blind not to see the courts veiws on this case and their delays like the add on of defendents so far into the process time . or the law around the adding of said.

Why have the law of the right to a speedy trial if one is of the mind that the court can put it off indefenily or so much so as to reinder it mute. Let's all be a little grown up about this and try not to insulte one another with presentments that are so easaly seen as something that is wrong even in someone who is of a simple mind could see how the court has been party to the act's of the FED's to cause the two to grow tired and there by lose their witt about this it has been seen and done more times than your wife by the mailman (just could'nt help myself on this one and I just flew in & boy are my arms tired Baduboom lolbadly)

Anyway as I said I'll go tow to tow or fact for fact that the two have have very little to do with the delays in this and thatthe courts and the FBI and the rest are more the cause and anyone with an out side view could see that if they wanted to.

It's sad to think that in todays tech world it still come's to the use of ones power to bully to get their way in something or that some will resort to the kind of things lik eI have seen here I mean come on how stupid do you have to be to think for one second that the sending the two to Utah was'nt the direct action to either delay so te fact outright fact finding that was going on and the FBI trying to bully some into give in out of fear and helping in someway although I still don't know what that could be other than te FBI getting them to say thing's that will know doubt be twisted latter to aid their case in some way rather than stand on the tryth and the fact and letting it run it course they will have know choose but to cheat to get their end of this done.

The simple truth be told with the givin time that the FBI had before they even showed their hand as being out to get these guys to gather the need if any info they could and the time sence then has been more than enough to come to trial with all persons and all they had to get that easy conviction but that is not he way this goes the facts are that they have been on a witch hunt and grasping for what ever they can from the start they had a big problem and had to get these guys off the street fast without causeing any more numbers to rally in support of them or join the already growing numbers that were part of the group as it was. It had the potencail to blow up and fast right in their fact if they did'nt cut the legs from under Kurt at least but better if you (they ) could not only shut them down but get them off the street so as to dis credit their whole process and make it look as if there was big truble for all involved in this their hope was to stop what was easaly on it's way to being one of thye biggest finacail problems this country has seen in more than 75 years but if not that it was pointed in the direction to cause the banks a great deal of peoblem and then being past on to the gov't and thats is what was done the banks went and cried to the Gov't and they stepped in to the middel odf what was legal and the banks new it if let to go it would have shown the whloe country how they coulf step out of their mortgage and do it with out any harm or very little no more than what the hassle it was to deal with the banks and their increasing bad customer service and cheating fee gouging way they were doing business but with a much bigger payoff than a mere 35 dollar false late fee or OL fee one spent hour's trying to get removed only to be put on hold or transfered yet again to some non- exsistant specail handleing dept and then to be disconected only to have to starte all over again at the begenning most giving up and the bank was liking how this was fatting their wallet so much so they made it apoint to train in a way as to increase the amout oftroble and inconveinace to the customer by adding thing slike cutting there CS hour so it was'nt as easy to phone them after work and there by who had hour's hey could spend in the middle of the day fopr $35 not many and when looked at the banks could just play as if most of what they had chaged was just do to cutting cost and good business so why would'nt they keep doing this it was only $35 to you but couple that with the millions of customer a month they were hitting with what stated as more tha not real charges but when it starte to look like you can rake in billion and still look like your on the up and up about it the temptation is to much to not for any banker I am sure of that.

I only bring that up to show the point that the system that is involved in this is one that is know stranger to being sneaky and given the chances to they will oout right lie and cheat you to gain fro it in this case they were more out to stop something that had the potencail to distroy them if let to grow and grow it was by leap every day even the head sof the dorean marketing group like Fellal Le Compt and CCR were over whelmed by the grorth that was taking place and that ws easy to seeon their faces at the second vagas convention as they had not planed for the numbers that were to show up and the fact that the fed had just put their card into play was'nt making it any easier to deal withit but they did and ended with still a lrge number of growing faithfull that were more tha ready to sign away their lifes work to have the payoff of no more mortgage payment.

As I said I have the firm idea of how and what has taken place and the where the finger should be pointing as far as the right under the law and these two getting a fare shake on them well this my detering confused oneside freind more than likly part of that witch is causing these thing or has some interest in their down fall there you have it my side weather you had intended it for me or not ther you have now it's your turn show where the court have the right other than that in witch they are over stepping or missusing their power as a tool to get their way but given the facts they are wrong in their doing and best way to show that in my mind would be to take out a nice big add in the local paper and spell out just waht has happend upo till now and see how the gen public take it in my bet is they will have as go of a public responce to tha t as the were getting in trhe first place when this started .. Got to run see ya..

mogel said...

Notarial Dissent said: "the majority of delay has been due to dim and dimmer refusing to either cooperate with appointed counsel or else prepare for trial, and of late refusing to accept the trial documents they are entitled to and required to prepare."
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The appointed counsel only happened recently, so please don't use that as an excuse for the almost 2 years they have been behind bars being held without bond. There was never a hearing to determine they are a flight risk you know. That's the only reason why I could see imprisoning without bond.

It was the prosecutions motions that caused the latest delay in the trial. At any rate, it doesn't take 2 years to solve all of this, despite what the prosecution needed to file, or despite what the Defendants needed to file.

You still don't know the difference between an agreement & a contract, so what makes you the legal expert?

Dorean was prepared for trial even before they were arrested. They had a memorandum of law of 80 pages put together to justify their process way long before everything hit the fan. Don't tell me they weren't prepared for any possibilities.

Defendants "refusing to accept the trial documents to prepare them for trial"? I thought the court record said they were "discovery paperwork"? Discovery only helps benefit the prosecution. Kind of a late stage for discovery isn't it considering how long they've been behind bars, don't you think? Now you are saying it's the Defendant's job to freely give out information & prove the case of the prosecution too? Maybe what you are really saying is that the prosecution's case is not ready to go to trial? Hence, the prosecution seems to be the cause of the latest delay.

notarial dissent said...

Yetter, not that you have obviously noted, but we have a Federal style of government, and shock and shudder, Federal Courts take precedence over state and local courts and when there is a conflict of law, the Federal law trumps. You might try actually reading the constitution some time. One of the court’s functions is to interpret the laws as written by Congress, and that gives them a lot of latitude, and when Congress writes poorly it gives them even more, but for the most part they are just carrying out their constitutional function. For the most part, they can only base their actions on what ever prevailing law is.

Do you actually have something to point out or is this just a general whine?


Quoting kahooeyNow that's mighty interesting isn't it.I have to wonder why the Gov't would pass such a new law please read my previous comment.

Again, as far as I can see, Speedy Trial has been complied with, the dim duo were certainly presented with the indictment as soon as they could get them to settle down long enough to pay attention to it, and according to the rules in place, after that the clock doesn’t start ticking again until all of the motions and hearings have been heard, and so between the collection of gibberish dumb and dumber have been generating, and then refusing to receive the materials from the court, and the rest of their antics, they have managed to delay things to a considerable degree, plus they are still waiting on two co-defendants, and that too stops the clock. There are probably other mitigating factors as well,

Moogs, I was just listing the reasons I knew about, but the main factor is that since they have been acting pro se, they have been given extra time to go through documents and such, and ever time they have filed a frivolous motion that too has slowed things down. In any event, since I am not privy to what all the gov’t is doing, I can only base my assumptions on what I have seen and what I can surmise. The one thing that I can surmise is that the court will take extra care to make sure they don’t make that error, and since dim and dimmer are going pro se it will be slower regardless. As I said, they can’t proceed to trial until all the motions have been dealt with, and they are trying to get a jury selected at this point.