Thursday, April 05, 2007

Bad Advice (02-23-07)

As I suspected I asked my detractors what their hope of redemption was and you proved yourselves talking heads. You have no hope for yourselves yet I’m supposed to respect your judgments. Neo offers me a cut & paste salvation 101 tract and that was the best. Neo you don’t know the gospel well enough to discern the flaws in the text but you know all my motives. You profess your BK a remedy for a cheat but I’m the cheat in my remedy. You say I (as client) didn’t get a free and clear house. You deceive yourself. You got a release from what you thought a bogus claim if the claim was a bogus claim upon your house the result would have prevented you from filing? Don’t expect anyone to believe this disingenuous load of crap. Thanks for the neophyte advice but it’s better if you live with it. If your Christ relationship was real you would know of His power, His truth, and you would see me as a brother with a justified hope. A narrow gate is not narrow mindedness. Judge your advice offered nothing eternal and wasn’t even good worldly advice. If you are an attorney you might want to fully disclose, to a prospective client so they can make an informed decision, how stupid you are and that it will be their assets used to cover this liability. Of course only a person honest with himself could offer this to another. Thanks for your advice but it’s better if you live with it.

TCOB it’s a good thing you are not seeking any follower because your blindness is too obvious. You offered no advice as advice and in that you showed a little wisdom. How does the scripture say it “Even the fool is considered wise if he keeps his mouth shut.” You’re on to something here may you grow in your wisdom. Finally to those who think my teaching about eternal wisdom is vanity and of no use I think you’d find an immediate retort from those whose faith has been encouraged to make it to the finishline. Know that I do not want you to suffer even in this life. I do not want you to lose your house or any comfort. Time is a very short thing and it should be full of joy before it ceases. My prayer for you is that you will have all the hay, wood, and stubble you need to build your empire. Please ignore my rantings of Christ, His plan or His power it does not apply to you.

Now to those of you who actually weigh the words spoken here tell me if I am not better suited to be your fiduciary than these self-indulgent blow hards. They can’t solve their own salvation in this life or the next. What remedy do you think they could offer you? Would you like me to get an attorney so I could get a good deal for me and void or damage your damage claims? Now what toxic heart would be so considerate of your needs? The commandment to love your neighbor as yourself has the side effect of feeling the sting of those who love themselves with a perfect hatred wonder why you reject their love. I don’t know about you but their love they can keep.

23 comments:

mogel said...

"Of course only a person honest with himself could offer this to another."
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Exactly right!!! You can't lift anyone higher than where you are spiritually and intellectually AT YOURSELF.

Those like Neophyte (Nemo) from a lower uninformed place, that want to judge, criticize, and offer no hope, wisdom, or charity, or any spiritual uplift or real plan, because they have none, is really comical on the surface, but really serious as you cut away all of the B.S. layers of ribbons and bows that the naysayers like him have masked & they are satisfied with themselves and where they are at, in that they believe all of their lies and conclusions and they have justifications for all of their narrow-mindedness.

No open-mindedness there because they are like cement, "thoroughly mixed up and permanently set." You can't save or influence people like that because they aren't changeable and open and lowly and meek of heart. They already have all of the answers they need and justifications so they think to believe that the Dorean process will fail. Naysayers can't have any hope, or offer any hope, when they've already determined the outcome in their own small narrow mind.

son of a prophet said...

back from depose.....


"Exactly right!!! You can't lift anyone higher than where you are spiritually and intellectually AT YOURSELF."


OK, all you meditators out there, here is a high level pondering for you....



when yeshua went on the mountain to pray, wouldnt of been nice for the bible to say exactly what He was praying for?

i can assume that He was praying for the lost sheep of israel to come to salvation; most likely this is what He was praying for...

HOWEVER, IF this is what He was praying for, then is it possible that His Father in heaven DENIED His request??

AS we know, the lost sheep and most of israel NEVER came to salvation......


INTERESTING.


this just came to me last week while in mediataion. HS always talking to you when you willing to listen. doesnt always give the answers right away, but give you deep level questions to ask that others have never even thought about.


someday the answers.....

tcob247 said...

TCOB it’s a good thing you are not seeking any follower because your blindness is too obvious.



????????????????????

I'm not seeking any followers
Who said I was?

mogel said...

SOP: The problem with your thinking is that Jesus said this in
John 10: 16

"And OTHER SHEEP I have which are not of this fold, them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

Isaiah 56: 8

"The Lord God which gathereth the OUTCASTS OF ISRAEL saith, Yet will I gather OTHERS to him, besides those that are gathered unto him."
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One thing we can agree on, "His sheep hear HIS VOICE AND FOLLOW HIM.

The lost sheep are of the House of Israel too.

Actually this segment of lost sheep refers to the people in the Americas & Jesus about 34 A.D. appeared there after his ressurrection too & declared such. This remnant of people were people that came from the Middle East about 600 B.C. from Jerusalem & immigrated to the Americas. They were not Gentiles:

See Book of Mormon, 3 Nephi 15: 11-24 which explains all of this.

mogel said...

"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment, THOU SHALT CONDEMN. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS is of me, saith the Lord."

CARRY ON KURT & SCOTT.

mogel said...

Latter Day Saint scripture for people like DG Wondering WHO SEEMS TO THINK THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN MY RELIGION AND MY POLITICS.

Joseph Smith, a Mormon prophet, knew in the latter days that the MONEY CHANGERS WOULD BE OVERTHROWN.

Doctrine & Covenants Section 117: vs. 16

"And again, verily I say unto you, let all my servants in the land of Kirtland remember the Lord their God, and mine house also, to keep and preserve it HOLY; AND TO OVERTHROW THE MONEY-CHANGERS IN MINE OWN DUE TIME, saith the Lord. Even so. Amen."

How interesting that this is on God's agenda in the latter days,to get rid of the unholy money changers, which days we are now living in.

Isn't it reasonable to conclude if it's on the agenda of the Lord that he would prepare those for this mission?

If Joseph Smith, a prophet KNEW THIS, and he lived over 160 years ago, why can't people like Tcob, Nemo, Notarial Dissent, etc. figure it out when they're living in the time when it's starting to happen?????

Just last week, the 2nd biggest predatory lender, filed for Chapt. 11 bankruptcy relief.

There's more to come.

mogel said...

SOP: I don't believe the Father ever denied any request of Jesus, other than his request of not fulfilling the atonement in the manner that it HAD TO BE. Jesus said, not my will be done, but thine will, but if there was another way, he requested to the Father to tell him because Jesus was just looking for another way if it existed. Since there was no other prescribed way, because of eternal law, the Father couldn't give something like: "let this cup pass from me" since it wasn't possible in the Father's plan of eternal salvation for mankind.

When you reach the Holiness that Jesus achieved, you don't ask for things that are contrary to the Father's will, so you don't ask things that are denied by the Father.

Don't you see that a perfect being doesn't do such things & pray in a manner or ask things that is inconsistent with the will of the Father?

Maybe you don't understand John 17 which was the great intercessory prayer. The "oneness" that they share is perfect. When you are "one" with the Father & the Son, all your prayers are answered in the manner that you ask for since you always only ask for blessings that are granted because of your holiness and faith.

If you asked that "you could do all things according to the purposes of God", he would grant you that power & you could, if you had enough faith and holiness.

What people don't fully understand is that our Father is there to grant our honorable wishes as long as it fits in his purposes. When you are "one" with him, you understand his plan fully & would never ask anything contrary to his plan, so anything that you would ask, would be granted. This is the faith that movies mountains.

Jesus therefore would never ask anything of his Father that would not be granted.

"Whatsoever thing ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is good, in faith believing that ye shall receive, behold, it shall be done unto you."

"And Christ hath said: "If ye will have faith in me, ye shall have power to do WHATSOEVER THING IS EXPEDIENT IN ME."

James 1: 5-6 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to ALL MEN LIBERALLY and upbraideth not, and it shall be given to him, but let him ask in faith, NOTHING WAVERING, for he that wavereth is like the wave of the sea, driven with the wind & tossed."

mogel said...

SOP said: "AS we know, the lost sheep and MOST of israel NEVER came to salvation......"
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How do you equate your conclusions with this scripture then?

John 17: 12

"While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name; those that thou gavest me, I have kept, and NONE OF THEM IS LOST, but the son of perdition; that the scriptures might be fulfilled."

Also John 18: 9

"That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me, have I lost none."

Are you saying SOP, that MOST of the house of Israel are "sons of perdition" then, and regretable lost forever?

Satan & his devils are equated with the "sons of perdition" and not a very likeable crowd to be associated with, and their torment is an endless one.

Surely, there's not much hope in your conclusions. Even Nemo, has more hope and more mercy than you in this regard.

Your conclusions takes away from the mercy of Christ that MOST are lost forever. Surely such thinking turns people away from Christianity & makes them become Buddhists, or some other faith rather than the thinking of elitists?

SURELY THE ATONEMENT AND GRACE OF GOD IS GREATER THAN YOUR MINDSET & CONCLUSIONS.

I would say the Holy Ghost was on vacation at the time & wasn't talking to you on this very subject.

One should be careful when they say the Holy Ghost has inspired them in their conclusions, lest they offend God or take his "name in vain".

I like what it says in the Preface page to the Book of Mormon:

The book is to show unto the remnant of the House of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that THEY MAY KNOW THE COVENANTS OF THE LORD, THAT THEY ARE NOT CAST OFF FOREVER--And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself UNTO ALL NATIONS. And now, if there are faults, they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment seat of Christ."

Peanut Gallery said...

Mogel,

Do not ask SOD any more scriptural questions. He will not answer because he has a warped view of what they actually means, he knows noting of which he claims.

son of a prophet said...

"Are you saying SOP, that MOST of the house of Israel are "sons of perdition" then, and regretable lost forever?





yes. is not israel today in a state of non-beleif??


some will comej(144,000) to beleif if they survive the tribulation which is surely not far from beginning now with iran involved in possible wars with usa/israel



mog, we each put our understandings on this blog as the HS gives it.

there is no need for further debate really. time and suffering will bring each to his wisdom at the appropriate time.

son of a prophet said...

as far as a perfect being, no such possibilty on earth, as this is satans kingdom, which most are soon going to find out, a DG victory notwithstanding.

DG will win, but even this is not going to change things like world wars, famines, floods, quakes, torndos, etc.....

habakkuk said...

SOP, I dont know if you are aware but there are more Jews getting saved now than ever before....I know a few personally.

son of a prophet said...

"SOP, I dont know if you are aware but there are more Jews getting saved now than ever before....I know a few personally.

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ive never said NO jews are coming to salvation; nonetheless, for the greater part, israel is in a state of unbelief.


and contrary to what most understand, today jerusalem is where the HQ of the false prophet will be, where the bible refers to as "satans throne"

son of a prophet said...

the latest worldreports.org article is a blast! LOLOLO!!!!!


all the supposedly stolen wantadollars are themselves being stolen as "digidollars"; ie. just rearranging numbers in ones bank accounts.....LOLOLOLO!!!!


talk aoubt ID theft!? WOW!


interesting also as there are reports on the 'net that peoples payment histories from their e-gold accounts are also being "disappeared"


meaning that a program called Global Online depository is now supposedly asking for "verification" of ones deposit from e-gold to Global

but when some members went to check their batch nos. at e-gold from their history, the record of the deposit to Global has been deleeted.


is this the death knell some have long awaited to happen at e-gold??

son of a prophet said...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!



STOLEN FUNDS VANISH INTO CYBERSPACE



Because, all of a sudden, following the events in Europe in the final week of March, funds in secret US-held bank accounts began vanishing into cyberspace, followed by the sudden deactivation of credit cards. It is against this background that we have received, from several sources, anecdotal reports that well-known Beltway personalities whose secret offshore bank accounts have 'become known', have been encountering problems purchasing groceries, paying their utilities bills and generally making ends meet – with several instances already reported of DC personalities actually attempting to borrow money from members of their staffs. Indeed, there are corroborating reports that such information has become a main topic of anxious conversation inside the Beltway.

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cant buy gorceries??

cant pay you motrage??


maybe you should join the DG??


LOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and dont forget, take you money out of Bank of Amerca too!


IMMENSE VOLUMES OF STOLEN FUNDS ALREADY RECOVERED


Amid this mayhem, severe warnings about dealings with Bank of America, Wachovia and Chase are being widely circulated – to which the Editor would have to add Goldman Sachs, given that Henry M. 'Conflict of Interest' Paulson insulted everyone's intelligence by retaining sole signatory control for a time over Ambassador Wanta's $4.5 trillion 'real' C.H.I.P.S. resources account maintained with the institution over which he had been Chief Executive Officer until he was 'switched' to preside over the scamming of the Ambassador’s funds under the cover provided by his position of trust as US Treasury Secretary. This is the worst conflict of interest in recorded global financial history.

It is understood that immense amounts of stolen funds have already been recovered following the European raids and arrests, and that this process is continuing. One source speaks of hundreds of billions of dollars, but we suspect that very much larger sums are being collected, as the balances in more and more illegally unreported, US-held offshore accounts duly 'vanish into cyberspace'.

son of a prophet said...

They played with Ambassador Wanta’s funds for nine months – implying possible illegal unreported, untaxed, aggregate, 'hidden' offshore 'fiat' money accruals of the order of at least $54,750 billion (EXCLUDING COMPOUNDING), of which they are now in the process of being abruptly relieved.

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"....abrublty releived."

good choice of words


here, let me relieve you of you money; 54 trillon too much fo yo...


just LOLOLO baby!!!!!

mogel said...

SOP said: " is not israel today in a state of non-beleif??"
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Israel is just one country. Those of the tribe of Israel are spread throughout the world in many countries. Jacob had 12 sons, Judah, was ONLY one of the 12 sons. Certainly you have heard of the 12 tribes of Israel, or even the lost 10 tribes. They may be lost to us, but not lost to God.

The time for Judah is in the not too distant future and the time will come when the Jews will believe in Christ in large numbers, when even Jesus will literally fight their battles because he has not forgotten them! The Jews will once again be a favored people of the Lord. They are not lost or cast out forever & they are certainly not "sons of perdition."

mogel said...

SOP said: "and contrary to what most understand, today jerusalem is where the HQ of the false prophet will be, where the bible refers to as "satans throne"
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I thought you said Rome or the Vatican was the capital of Satan's kingdom? Are you changing that now?

How do you know the false prophet will come from Jerusalem?

neodemes said...

moogie drivels:

"Those like Neophyte (Nemo) from a lower uninformed place, that want to judge, criticize, and offer no hope, wisdom, or charity, or any spiritual uplift or real plan, because they have none, is really comical on the surface, but really serious as you cut away all of the B.S. layers of ribbons and bows that the naysayers like him have masked & they are satisfied with themselves and where they are at, in that they believe all of their lies and conclusions and they have justifications for all of their narrow-mindedness."

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This coming from a follower of heresy? Maybe you can help Kurt out in his prison ministry.

In any event, Happy Easter.

mogel said...

Nemo said: "This coming from a follower of heresy? Maybe you can help Kurt out in his prison ministry."
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Maybe you can help me out in my financial ministry, my bankrupt bald one? Ya think, or do you "thunk"?
Or in my ministry of learning the true meaning of "grace", my "cut & paste" king?
I would venture to say that more people going to jail is just that
"heresay" or "heresy". Don't believe any jail ministry is in the cards. There are no omens of such, my heretic friend.

How funny you talk about "heresy" and commit a heresy in the next sentence. Course in your parallel universe, you must really believe that. If so, I apologize. "Frickin tard," just "scroll on past".

Have a Happy Easter, as opposed to having an unhappy Easter by eating too much chocolate maybe? How do you have an unhappy Easter? Do you have to believe in the Easter Bunny to do that, or maybe not find any colored eggs?

Your attempt to help Kurt with his spiritual salvation was a "cut and paste". Your attempt to show Joseph Smith a false prophet was a "cut and paste" by the research of some bafoon's work you didn't even read, much less understand. You're so typically predictable.

By the way how is your "creative real estate ministry" going? Or is it gone yet?

You threatened to HAVE YOUR INTERNET PRESENCE STAY OPEN longer since I brought up your eventual demise. Did you follow through on that threat, I mean promise? Or was your promise or representation just "heresy" too?

mogel said...

Beating people up or killing them because they are homeless, the new "hate crime" that's getting out of control:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070408/ap_on_re_us/preying_on_the_homeless

mogel said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/
ap/20070408/ap_on_re_us/
preying_on_the_homeless

mogel said...

Nemo: SPEAKING OF HERESY, and prospering, HOW'S YOUR SUCCESSFUL SITE COMING ALONG?

www.neodemesne.com

Defunt real estate ministry site on "How to invest in real estate creatively". After loggin in that website, google came up and it said,

"SCROLL ON PAST". No longer a viable, I mean reliable source. Closed due to lack of interest! Maybe all the crap you spewed on your site about the Dorean Group had a karma to you? You thunk?

"Oh how the PROUD ONES have fallen"

"No weapon formed against thee shall prosper...."